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sunlinna

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  1. 1. What level are you at?
    I'm just a very beginner, I can speak and understand very basic words and phrases. Now I'm at maybe 200 words of passive vocabulary. So conversation in Thai only is not possible at all yet.

    2. Can you read and write Thai?
    The alphabet was one of the first things i learnt, as I'm a visual learner and need to see word, as from hearing alone some information lacks (when i mishear the tone and vowel length). I can read and write very slowly as long as it are words i know and those follow the rules, but it still causes me headache if read more than short phrases. I really miss spaces between the words, it would make reading a lot easier.

    3. How long have you been learning for?
    Actively for approx. three month, so i just started now. Before I only picked up a few very frequent words through Thai movies.

    4. How did you learn?
    I learn by myself through internet resources and practice with my Thai language partners. Also I try to immerse myself by listening Thai radio and music and watch Thai movies, even I understand almost nothing yet.

    5. What other languages could you speak before Thai?
    As English i learnt the whole school time and Dutch is very similar to my native language German, I can speak both languages fluently. I also learn a year of each French and Russian in school and university, but I almost forgot everything, so both languages are even worse than my Thai now.
    I'm learning Mandarin for three years now, I'm fluent in typing and reading pretty much everything, but conversation still causes me trouble. I know approx. 5000 words according to my latest exam, but I can only understand up to 50% when listening, as the number of homophones is pretty high as well as most speakers have an accent and speak very fast. I really feel stuck and unable to improve anymore now.
    For some reason I progress in Thai much faster as i did in Mandarin then. Maybe because both languages have similar grammar and structure. I think listening is much easier in Thai as homophones are less and the people tend to pronounce a lot more clearly. So i actually see more chance in speaking conversation Thai anytime in future.

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  2. I use a self created Thai Phonetic Keyboard on both my mac and my PC, i use this layout:
    Thai-EN.jpg

    Shift pressed (mostly high class letters and short vowels):
    Thai-EN_Shift.jpg

    AltGr pressed (rare letters):
    Thai-EN_AltGr.jpg

    Retroflex (very rare) and abolished characters via dead key:
    Thai-EN_DeadKey.jpg

    For windows:
    http://thai.riian-thai.com/files/Thai-QWERTY_KeyboardLayout.zip
    http://thai.riian-thai.com/files/Thai-QWERTZ_Tastaturlayout.zip (German)

    I have also a mac version, can share it later when im back at home.

  3. A new version is avaliable now:
    - Different romanization are added (Royal Thai, Paiboon+) as well as some custom options (e.g. ignore vowel length and b/d/g instead of p/t/k for final stops).

    - Input string is automatically converted (remove accents and space), so its not necessary in csv database anymore.
    Paiboon+ speacial charactes can be entered as Q = ɔ, V = ʉ, X = ə, Z = ɛ

    Download:

    http://thai.riian-thai.com/files/ThaiIME_0.03.zip

  4. I did some improvements:
    - The input windows automatically adjust size and is placed at text carret position. (doesn't work for all applications yet)
    - IME is triggered by Ctrl + CapsLock, so the CapsLock is still usable, also Shift works to write latin letters while IME is active.
    - Suggestions can also be selected by NumPad numbers.
    - The focus will not be lost anymore while toggle IME.

    Download:
    http://thai.riian-thai.com/files/ThaiIME_0.02.zip

  5. Hello everyone,

    As IME helped me a lot to learn to recognize thousands of chinese characters, I absolutely like your idea.
    Basically you need a list of words ordered by frequency as well as their pronunciation.
    There are such lists (4000 and 5000 most frequent including pronunciation), but they still lack too many words.
    Its hard to merge different lists, when they used different methods to determine frequency.
    Best would be an IME which is learnable and can rearrange the words by frequency of usage.

    I've already tried to make a Thai IME in Javascript: http://thai.riian-thai.com/?top=thai_ime
    But i think it would be more usefull as an Input Method which can be installed on the computer and mobile phone.
    It's easy to create a program for showing the candidates based on algorythms, but the hard thing is to put the text into any text field of any window.
    Unfortunately I can only program in Java, but didn't manage to access the text fields via JNA/JNI yet, it would be better to do in C++ with Text Service Framework.



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