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You need a non-B visa to work here, but to work legally you will also need a WP from the labor department so you need both. First you get the visa (probably form the Thai embassy in Venetian, Laos) and when you have your visa you will go back to the school and they will take you to the provincial labor department to apply for WP.

The assistance can be anything from just supplying the documents needed for visa and WP all the way to actually take you to all the places, help you fill in your applications, pay the fees for visa and WP and so on.

If you quit your job your visa will be canceled.

Incorrect, visas are not cancelled, only extensions of stay.

I can see what immigration are attempting to do i.e. stop illegal working which is fine but I dont understand why there isnt other ways to clamp down on this. Even the UK gives a 6 month visa yet Thailand for whom tourism is a significant portion of the countries income seems to do everything to stop tourists. Obviously they cant or wont control Thai business's and opt for the easy solution.

How come other countries can take care of illegal working whilst Thailand seems unable to?

Wrong.

" However, while one of the premier tourist destinations in the world, the Thai economy only receives around 7% of its GDP from international tourism revenue,"

They dont like all this visa exempt shit now. You cant do four in a row. i believe its 90 days in every year.

How easy is it to get a tourist visa?

You believe wrong, that rule was rescinded many years ago.

Nope my visa had not expired and I was extending my 60 days for a further 30 days.

They would not consider the entry date, but the issue date

Impossible - unless you had been in country for less than 30 days when applying for the extension, else the 30 day extension would have only allowed you permission to stay up until some point in the past !

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what is with the British population dying daily in Thailand?

Most act as if they are superman and then pay the price of their stupidity

He was young and got drunk and paid the ultimate price.

Most the expats like you on this forum go to Thailand to buy women and take advantage of 3rd world poverty, surely your breed are far wore than him.

"Oh come on the Thais have hardly set the bar high for standards of decency.

Please try TGM's ( Thai German Meat) salami. As good as anywhere in Europe.

Please Google TGM, they've got a website with all goodies.

TGM only does 2 types of salami, and you can't order from the website - so not a lot of point looking at it.

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I have a lot to say about this topic, especially the "I'm not aware" part of it.

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​Did you know a Thai teacher can 'draw' most of their future earnings RIGHT NOW!

​Let that sink in.....

​New teacher=no money, sign contract with government get money now! Its my money, I want it now!

​I can't remember the exact % but it is above 80%.

​Do the math, we are talking big money! (30+- years X salary)

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​Do you think teacher wants to teach making >20%? for the next 30 years?

​Most teachers where I live run a Internet shop, kids play hookie, kids get plagiarism assignments to print print print. Kids pay internet, kids skip school to play internet

​shop. Kids get to go to see the aircraft carrier, kids go to temple, kids go to camp. lots and lots of not learning especially the plagiarism part. When I was my kids age I was writing my own stories, writing about topics and doing my own research.

​Amazing! I have a lot more I can say, but the kicker is the fist paragraph. I have never seen anybody else mention that part of the problem ever. Teachers don't teach because they spent the money already.

​When teacher mess's up, teacher gets transfer to another place. Teacher keeps private car paid by 1st paragraph, gets new government allowance for apt, or rent a house if government apt not available. No accountability. period

​This works great for me, because I like Thailand to always be a cheap place to live with lots of servants.

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Judging from your post, I am willing to make a guess about your history.

Either you learned English in the Thai school system,

or you did not pay much attention in class where ever you did go to school.

Hint" I do not see any paragraphs in your post at all!

Let that sink in!

​Nice one Wilburt. Your the best. Best with conjunction, interjunction, nouns, verbs and paragraphs. Try thinking that not everybody uses a desktop computer on TV.

​Your better then me Willy in every way.

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What is that?

After teaching in Thailand for the best part of 10 years, I have probably seen it all. Students are told not to ask questions of any Thai teacher, and just accept what they are told is correct. I have seen Thai teachers, who can't speak English, teaching English classes, Thai teachers turning up 20 minutes late for lessons and leaving 20 minutes early, Thai teachers getting a massage from their students during an extra class, the list goes on...

As far as Foreign teachers are concerned, some of those are no better. I have seen Foreign teachers sleeping in the staff room instead of going to lessons, Foreign teachers with no understanding of Grammar teaching the upper grades, Foreign teachers playing games on their phone while the students run riot around the class, the list goes on...

I am fed up seeing tweets on ajarn.com from people saying they are thinking of teaching in Thailand and looking after the elephants, people who want to teach in Thailand and be near a beach, people who use the internet as the sole supplier of worksheets, the list goes on...

Well, I retired early because I was fed up watching these Foreign teachers collect their salary at the end of the month, knowing that their students still couldn't put a sentence together.

Congratulations to the M.O.E for allowing all this to happen. The only Foreign teachers you will get now are the back-packers and the illiterate spongers.

Seems you don't understand the rules of capitalization.

Farangs pay the normal price.

Thai people get a discount. Sometimes the farangs get a discount also if they show their license or work permit.

Still very cheap, doesn't bother me the Thais get a discount.

Last week at the Royal building near the zoo, Thai girlfriend paid 150 baht, I paid 75 baht. I got the 50% discount because my phone is with AIS. They didn't even bother to ask me for a license.

At the zoo we paid the same. I can't remember if there were two prices there or not.

The answer to the OP is........ It depends.

Did you mean Western caucasian? Or as I suspect, you meant foreigner.

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I bet if a Farang was caught doing an up-skirt photo it wouldn't be a paltry 500 baht fine..

For the locals, a 500 baht fine is hardly a deterrent. There will probably be a few more chancing their arm now that they know the fine, doesn't fit the crime...

Did you mean just Western caucasians ? Or, as I suspect, you meant foreigners.

It was conducted by the Private Teacher's Association back in 2008 and I know from Khrususapha that it's "accredited."

I heard that the TCC courses before 2010 are not valid anymore for TL application after 2015.

Thanks a lot for pointing this out. I will hear if mine from 2008 has "expired" within the next two, or three days and post it here.

Is it only for the TL application, or also for the provisional ones?

That sounds like the " being grandfathered rule" for all who started 6 months before I did. Freaking insane.

On the other hand, I'll receive my letter from the university soon that I'm updating my degree, which should be enough for the TCT?

The problem I've got is that the rules and regulations are always changing.

When I saw the signature of an Army Admiral,on one of the docs, it explains all.

Oh dear! Since when did the Army have Admirals?

So my questions: If I go to the immigration center, will they detain me and/or make me leave the country within 7 days?

The immigration officer will have the right to detain you, if he so chooses, or he can stamp your passport with an order to leave within 24 hours, or he can give you a 30-day extension of stay. Nobody can tell you with any degree of certainty what will happen. Some officers have an itchy trigger finger, others have not.

What is this ? I have never heard of it or seen it reported before ?

Tobacco is grated in 5 categories.The numbers 1 and 2 are normally mixed for good quality cigarettes with the very best tobacco used in the very costly cigarettes.These first two categories are normally found in American cigarettes ( That are Made in America).The American Tobacco Company sends this top mixture to other countries for their top and good brand of cigarettes>Number 5 is used for snuff and chewing tobacco..The cigarettes bought here in Asia are mostly made with number 3 and 4 mixed.Even though the package may be of an American brand the tobacco is of poor quality.

The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) identifies 117 official tobacco grades.

"Sometimes i believe all these gyms are there to scam farangs as local people cant even afford to subscribe to them considering the low wage they provide"

So they are just scamming the Western caucasians ? Or did you mean "foreigners" ?

" the cashier refused to give me the Thai rate despite having a work permit. "

Are you Thai ? Because having a work permit one would presume you are not, ergo, you should not pay the Thai national price.

Maybe you're new around here. In the past, having a work permit has entitled one to the Thai rate, although it had always been a little inconsistent with regards to which parks and attractions abided by it.

Not that new, but I do know that a work permit never "entitled" you to the Thai national price, it was a concession that some places gave to foreign workers.

" the cashier refused to give me the Thai rate despite having a work permit. "

Are you Thai ? Because having a work permit one would presume you are not, ergo, you should not pay the Thai national price.

The penalty for being caught driving under the influence is a fine of THB5,000 – THB20,000, up to 1 year in jailand at least a 6 month driving ban. If injury or death is caused the penalties are far more severe with a maximum fine of THB200,000 and a 10 year prison sentence.

"We are two independent agents based in Bangkok." - who are working illegally.

:-)

Yet another person who does not know the difference between foreigner and farang.

:-(

Brilliant. Now we are all clear and understand your use of the word "lecturers". Thanks and have a nice weekend.

Seriously ? You need me to clarify where a lecturer works ?

Strange, because the admin where I work can not do enough for the foreign lecturers.

While I am certainly impressed with your use of "foreign lecturers" as a description of the foreigners aka farangs, I was referring to high schools, Government High Schools. The implication using "lecturers" is that of University professors although I think that is being generous considering the qualifications to "lecture" at some Universities here in the Kingdom being nothing more than a once again printed out Masters Degree from some off shoot online "University" etc.. No kind person, let's talk about Thai Government high schools hiring backpackers and others whom have no real teaching credentials and many of whom aren't even Native English Speakers. They aren't "lecturing" about anything. At most, they study the textbook provided and hope to grasp the content, then read it in a broken foul English to the class full of students playing games on their phones.

Please clarify your context.

Yet another person who does not know the difference between foreigner and farang.

:-(

Ok. I have just seen the letter that I mentioned in the first post.

It says that ALL new employed teachers must pass an immigration check before they can be employed.

There are no details as to what they have to do.

It doesn't say anything about whether they have a non-immigrant B or not.

So now the admin is running around in circles trying to find out what to do.

Interesting. Very interesting. In my experience, the Admin usually doesn't give a darn about stuff like this as it involves foreign teachers which overall are despised. To think they actually care and are as you indicate, doing something about their concerns is astonishing. Please tell us more. Thanks.

Strange, because the admin where I work can not do enough for the foreign lecturers.

Regarding police and criminal background checks along with reference checks, none are done. It's again, a face issue. If someone the school wanted to hire "failed" such a check, face would be lost. Luckily not many pedos and the rest end up with the children, but it does happen. I suppose that's true in other countries as well. I know at least one Thai school which allows foreigners to spank the students with their infamous hickory sticks. When you start filming it, it of course ceases. With today's phones and the facebook's of the world, such antics have declined. Once a "teacher" knows he/she will be on facebook spanking/swatting a child he/she gets scared. Payback is a bitch sometimes.

But they are needed to obtain an initial Non-B visa;

The document must include accompanying visas.

1. A certificate of employment (In the form of the Department of Employment. Ministry of labour) Download Forms
2. A copy of the employment contract (The start date of employment. The date of submission of the application for a visa. Or after the approved visa, etc.).
3. Chartered Institute of Educational Institutions
4. Proof of qualification
5. Evidence of a criminal background check by the police.
6. A copy of the work permit And tax returns of aliens (If you've ever worked in Thailand).
7. Certificate of Education (the employer), the Royal Thai Embassy in Vientiane with a copy of the signed certificate.
8. additional documents