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20 hours ago, ericthai said:

OP  I suggest to get a tourist visa, if you dont want to do that and want to keep

using visa exempt then I would have:

 

1) 20K baht of equivalent in hand

2) Something from your employer in Vietnam showing you work in Vietnam.

3) Return ticket showing departure within 30 days. 

 

with this, especially something from Vietnam employer you should not have any issues.

very useful thanks,

in ref to #3, do you think if i show a booking ticket BKK to VN within 30 days will work or it has to be a ticket back to Europe?

I doubt they will ever deny entry to an individual that has done absolutely nothing but spending time in TH and respecting all its rules and laws. But u never know. The two IOs were two nice ladies and they were friendly. What if one get one of those old

grumpy serious officers..

14 hours ago, JackThompson said:

Coming from a European flight should cause less trouble - especially with a Tourist Visa and 20K worth of cash/travelers checks.  I would not be worried doing that. 

 

Coming from Vietnam, I would either bus across Cambodia (the cheap way), or fly to Penang or Kuala Lumpur and take the train to the border at Pedang Besar, then fly domestic out of Hat Yai to where ever in Thailand.  You may still need the cash on your person to be allowed-in at any entry-point.

 

The "7 day detention" is Only IF you elect to appeal your denial of entry - it can take up to 7 days for the appeal process. 

 

If you do not appeal the denial, and are coming in from a country where you can return without a visa (Malaysia, for most of us), you are generally allowed to buy a return-ticket to the country you came from on the next available flight.  In some cases, this has forced people to stay in detention overnight. 

 

I do not think they will let you choose any destination.  I recall one case where the person with a valid-visa, but without the required cash, was forced to fly back to his passport-country - even though he could have returned to Hong Kong (that one was a couple years back).  Recently, most reports have people returning to Laos, Cambodia or Malaysia.

 

Thanks for the info on your visa-exempt history.  I think what you encountered at the airport is a new alert they have added recently.  It is good you shared this with the community, so we can be prepared to deal with this.

Forced to buy a ticket back to my country? Detention overnight?      They ll hear me shouting all the way and never see me again here.

I ll apply for a tourist visa before flying in.

Or, If I still have a bad feeling, I will purchase a connecting ticket BKK to VN and remain in the connections area of the airport without attempting to enter TH. And I will forget about my gf and TH, for a while.

15 hours ago, JackThompson said:

The guy was gone for 7 months - he couldn't be working.  People traveling to nations where pay is significantly higher than their home-country might be suspected of coming to work illegally, so it makes sense when/if that is the case.  This used to be taken into consideration, but it appears this is reversed, now, with those from poor neighboring nations specifically excluded from the restrictions placed on the rest of us.

 

If true, this is good info to know, since we only knew about the "6 visa exempts" rule, until now.  But note that IOs seem to ignore this when one is returning through most checkpoints - or they are not using the same 'alerts' everywhere.  It is just airports and Poipet that seem most likely to do this to people, for the time-being.

 

I would add, next time, don't come in Visa Exempt, and don't fly-in.  Come in through a known-friendly border-crossing with a Tourist Visa, carrying 20K worth of cash or travelers checks to show, and with ready-answers to the most-likely questions.

 

Keep in mind, he was coming from Vietnam, where many people need pre-clearance to enter, so simply "flying back" might not have been an option.  What then?  A last-minute ticket 1/2 way across the world to his passport-country for 70,000+ Baht, then another ticket at a similar-cost to turn around and get back to SE-Asia, where he lives?  Similar if flying in from Myanmar - can't just 'go back' without first getting a visa from the Consulate.  One could beg to be allowed to go to Malaysia, instead - but would they oblige? 

This guy's world could have been turned upside-down on a denial-of-entry - scary thought.

Hello,

How can I not fly in if I come from Europe? I have already a flight booked to return to BKK for August.

or are you flying to Lao then cross through Nong Khai border?

If they let me in I will probably stay in TH for 3 weeks with my Gf then go work in Vietnam to work. Maybe if I show an outbound ticket will help?

your advice to enter with a tourist visa is a good idea I guess.

If i get deny entry the only option is to go back to the connections area of BKK airport and book a ticket out of TH .

Someone here mentioned 7 days detentions if you are deny entry??

If I count correctly I ve done 2 visa exempt entries in 2015; (flying from Europe), 2 in 2016 (flying from Malaysia) and this one entry today in 2017. Total: 5.  The others entries were done at border crossings with a tourist visa. So i am below the "6 visa exempts rule". Before 2015, the last time I was in TH was 2010.

19 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Stop using Don Meuang airport. They are much harder of 'frequent flyers' than Suvarnabhumi is. May be something to do with the former being the LCC hub and thus the more likely conduit for border runners with (a bit of) a wedge. In their eyes, you now fit the profile of a possible illegal worker in Thailand, that's all. After swanning about in Thailand on multiple TR visas for the best part of a year, you are returning after 7 months working in Vietnam, so why would you not look like a potential illegal worker in Thailand?

 

It's a broad brush they use but it is their brush.

wasnt Muang airport. Was Suvarnabhumi.

20 hours ago, JackThompson said:

The "computer show up" may have been related to more than 6 Visa-Exempts by you since 2015.  If that is not the case, they may have added a new alert which is triggered by "time in country" - even on TR-Visas.  Please let us know if you have NOT had any Visa-Exempts since Jan 2015, as that would let us know an additional "computer alert" is in play.

 

I would have thought that 7 Months out of the country would have been enough that they would not question you (even if they saw an alert); Airport immigration is becoming increasingly difficult, these days. 
The statement "u can only stay 90 days in a year" is false - typical with reports of statements by airport IOs (and Poipet IOs), who seem to have been told this by higher-ups.  They had been told 180 days (also false), before.  Of course, you had been gone for 7 months, so you hadn't stayed that long anyway.   They seemed to be noting that you didn't go to "your country" when you left, last time, from your passport history; interesting to notice they seem to care that you didn't "go home" but stayed in the region.   Maybe they are making up a "new rule" whereby visitors to Thailand must not be out of their "home country" for more than 90 Days / yr - or must be "working illegally somewhere."   Because the pay in SE Asia is so high, relative to our home-country?

I doubt a word would have been said at friendship-bridge from Laos, where I recently re-entered Visa Exempt hassle-free to spite being "in Thailand" 90%+ of the last several years.
I never enter at airports, which seem to be unfriendly places to enter the country on TR visas and Visa-Exempts, unless one is a rare and/or short-term visitor.

Hello

to answer yr question, in 2015 i entered TH twice: in September (2 weeks stay) and in November. I entered with a 30 days on arrival visa.

I doubt the "time spent in the region " is a relevant: when i go back to my country (im from Europe) sometimes i dont get stamped at the entry. The officers that questioned me had printed two pages with a log of all my entries.

I think they suspected I worked in TH. It seems that when I told them I work in VN and i have a Gf here all was good.

Now I have a return ticket for August: I need to ask:

- can  I be denied entry for some reason next time? and in that case what can I do/who can i call at the airport to fight my way in?

at the end of the day I am not dong anything wrong and im not breaking any law. And I know a lot of people that keep doing visa runs.

- can a letter from my Girlfriend explaining that I am coming to visit her help my case at the immigration desk?

thanks a lot

 pls i am in Vietnam and i need to renew my tourist visa

I know i need to exit VN and re enter.

does moc tai immigration has a visa on arrival office?

The invitation letter that I purchase on a website

is valid also at the border crossing immigration in moc tai?

I mean if I exit VN and go to Cambodia and re enter VN the same day, the VN immigration will accept

the letter and give me 3 months visa?

Thank you so much

15 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

She will get a 30 day visa exempt entry under a bilateral agreement between the 2 countries. She will only need her passport.

Thank you so much ubonjoe

Can I ask you

When she arrived at VN airport she will have to pay $25 entry stamp?

Hi,

I am in Vietnam and I want to invite my Thai girlfriend here for 5 days.

She has a passport, I would like to know if/what docs she needs to travel here in Vietnam:

is the procedure simple like applying for an evisa and then the ticket or is it more complex?

Please advise

Thank you so much

Hi,

Please I have to go to VN for work and I would like to ask if I need to show a return ticket when I check in?

I applied and obtained a 3 months evisa

I only bought the entry ticket because I am not sure how long I will stay there: will the airline, (vietjetair) let me board without a return ticket outside of Vietnam?

thank you

On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 11:23 PM, LPCustom69 said:

You could go to your home country and get a METV and quit worrying.

hi

if I am correct, to obtain a metv u need to show 7K in the bank and proof of employment?

On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 0:51 AM, BritTim said:

There is no absolute limit to the number of single entry tourist visas (SETVs) you can get. Typically, each consulate has their own limits, sometimes based on the number of previous tourist visas in your passport total, and sometimes depending only on the number from that particular consulate. In most cases, you cannot easily get more than three tourist visas from the same consulate.

 

You should be able to add three from Penang, another couple from Savannakhet, two from Hong Kong, one each from HCMC and Hanoi, and probably one from Yangon to your existing collection without too much trouble. Using agents, even more would be possible for a price. All this is based on existing rules which are always subject to change.

Some of my friends were able to get a 6 months visa (thai embassy in Italy) .

what they do is they spend 6 months here and 6 months in italy. 

may I ask if this type of visa has limits as well? as far as I know they go to the same thai consulate.

thank you

i only wonder what happens once someone hit the limit of

all the embassies mentioned above?.apply for a new passport?

thank you Brtittim,

in theory, when can I go back safely to Vientiane? say 1 year from now?  or once you hit the limit you better avoid that embasy forever?

what SETV?

Thank you ubonjoe,

Based on what you say I can keep applying for a 2 months tourist visa (+30 days extension) forever?

Hello,

I have been here in Thailand, legally, for almost 1 year;   During my 1 year stay  I did 2 visa runs in Vientiane and one in Savannakhet;

Now next December my 2 month visa (renewable for 30 days) expires;

Should I worry about immigration will deny my renewal? Is it better to "stay out" for a while before reentering

I hear from friends that if you stay here for tool long using the "visa run" method one day the immigration might deny entry, and ban you for some time.

Pls advice

Thank you, I really appreciate.

Hi,

I am from Europe and I have a job offer in Vietnam and the employer wants a police clearance certificate.

I know some other colleagues that worked in Vietnam submitted the police cert. from the country they recently lived.

I ve been here in Thailand legally for 1 year. Can I obtain a police clearance cert from Thai authorities? Where do I go to get it?

thanks

Hi,

I m currently in Thailand , I have a passport from Europe and I would like to visit China, likely a city in the south of China for one week.

can I go to China without a visa or do I need to apply for visa (go to Bangkok and stay 2+ days etc..)

I ve heard that in the special zone Shenzen one can fly without a visa and even cross into China.

If someone pls can advise

Thank you

Hi

Since tomorrow jomtien will be busy,

Can i download the form to extend for 30 days the 2 months visa that just expired, what is the form name?

If i am correct I need to attach 2 photos, 2 copies of the visa, 2 copies of departure form

Can anybodybpls confirm ?

Thank you

You will be extending your permit to stay not your visa.

You will submit one TM7 form with a 4 X 6 cm photo attached. Download and print 2 sided. http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/download/pdf/tm7.pdf

One copy of your passport photo page, visa, entry/permit to stay stamp and TM6 departure card.

thank you so much

I have a passport size photo, im not sure if its 4x6, its probably smaller. do you think it can be good?

Hi

Since tomorrow jomtien will be busy,

Can i download the form to extend for 30 days the 2 months visa that just expired, what is the form name?

If i am correct I need to attach 2 photos, 2 copies of the visa, 2 copies of departure form

Can anybodybpls confirm ?

Thank you

You will be extending your permit to stay not your visa.

You will submit one TM7 form with a 4 X 6 cm photo attached. Download and print 2 sided. http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/download/pdf/tm7.pdf

One copy of your passport photo page, visa, entry/permit to stay stamp and TM6 departure card.

thank you

I already have a passport size photo. I m not sure if its 4x6, it probably smaller than that. Do you think it can be good ?

Hi

Since tomorrow jomtien will be busy,

Can i download the form to extend for 30 days the 2 months visa that just expired, what is the form name?

If i am correct I need to attach 2 photos, 2 copies of the visa, 2 copies of departure form

Can anybodybpls confirm ?

Thank you

Hi,

My visa expires tomorrow April 15, I went today to extend my stay for 30 days but, unfortunately, the immigration office is closed until

Monday, April 17. This is due to the local holiday, I just didn't know that.

What happens now on Monday when I go to extend the visa: a 500 per every day overstay fine?

Will this overstay somehow affect my future entries/visa for Thailand?

Thank you very much.

oh yeah? what I report make no sense??

why don't you go and ask yourself?

that's what they told me dude, like it or not.

can i ask my hotel for a "lease document " since I 've been in this same room for 4 months ?

maybe i can get a residency certificate from immigration if i can provide some sort of lease paper