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9 hours ago, sidgy said:

Quite. But it is a story on the flooding in Bkk, on the Bkk forum.


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I live in Bangkok. In 2011, we had our worst flooding during the month of October. School was actually closed until about the middle of November.

5 hours ago, Kiteboy57 said:

This country is seriously Pixxing me off, their standards are unbelievable, wherever I go in the three plus years living here, I see Thai individuals throwing their trash on the ground wherever they may be, at home, on the road or in the city. How about educating their own dirty individuals who for sure don't give a flying F about their environment. As for the fine and or jail time, well yet another case of overkill and double standards, three months ago I was knocked off my motorbike into the air suffering multiple injuries as a consequence and a cripple hand for life, and the Thai guy in his Pick-up who decided to fly through a Red light at over 160kph causing said accident, gets what, Nothing! He walks and I live with the pain and inability to even open a ring pull can anymore. Well done  yet again Thai authorities, priorities bang on once more, Long live the King BTW.

I've been living and teaching in Thailand for the past eight years. When I first started teaching here, our school principal told me "Don't drive a motorbike in Bangkok; it's much too dangerous!" I've heeded his advice. Anyone who does choose to drive a motorbike here, should make sure they have accident insurance.

37 minutes ago, AlphMichaels said:

Can't make this sh%!* up.  I could all but eliminate trash on my beach by aggressively ticketing local fishermen with fines that hit hard and make them think.  They are the #1 litterers impacting area beaches.  I find (of course) the feed bags,  oil filters, plastic bottles filled with urine (<deleted> outstanding!), food bags, insulin vials and, of course, styrofoam (polystyrene)..., which takes 500 years or more to degrade versus a cigarette butt @ 18 months to 10 years.    

 

I.D.I.O.T.S.

Fifty years ago in Thailand, there weren't many tourists but there were fishermen. The beaches were then mostly pristine. Today there are many tourists and there are fishermen. The beaches are littered to a greater or lesser extent. Who's to blame? The Thais, the tourists, the fishermen or Obama?

19 minutes ago, sambum said:

Sorry, but in my "ex neck of the woods", smoking in ANY of the pubs is a big "no - no", so obviously in different areas of the country, the law is interpreted differently!

 

And apart from the landlords that I quoted above, many of the landlords that I spoke to a few years ago were adamant that the smoking ban had affected their sales directly, and many pubs in my "ex neck of the woods" had to close because of it. Obviously, in your area it is still allowed, so maybe not so many closures?

 

And a serious question for you, and other members on ThaiVisa. Does anybody know of any other country that imposes a fine of almost a local's year's salary for smoking on a public beach? Or any other country that has a fine of any description for smoking on  a public beach?   

In Singapore, a smoker was fined $15,000 for throwing cigarette butts out of his flat window. I personally don't have a problem with people smoking on the beach. I do have a problem with people throwing cigarette butts on the beach. They're not easy to clean up (i.e. the sand eventually starts looking like an open-air ashtray).

2 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

Simple solution make an area of beach smoking only. As fot the pubs it was the supermarkets that drove them out of buisness im afraid. Agreed the smoking ban didnt help but the pubsvin my ex neck of the woods still allow smoking never been fined or raided.

Your suggestion has some merit. Smoking has been banned in most public places, and the beach is a public place ...

Plastic trash can be readily removed. Cigarette butts can't. So, they just keep accumulating over time. With time, the beach will become seriously littered with cigarette butts.

6 hours ago, Pesche said:

Oh yes,

Indeed cigarette butts are pollutant...

"Secret Beach" on Ko Lanta yesterday!

4 hours ago, diddygq said:

This is getting out of hand, not only in Pattaya but so many beautiful spots devastated by this crap.  

 

On a side note, my mother and sister are coming here and I plan to take them to one of the islands/beaches.  Does anybody know a beach that is still intact, still beautiful like they were a decade or two ago?

Unfortunately, this is becoming a universal problem. If you read the travel forums, many popular beaches, not only in Thailand, but also in other countries such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, etc., are to a greater or lesser extent polluted/trashed. You would probably need to go off the beaten track to find a pristine beach in Thailand. What goes around comes around. If we keep treating the ocean as a large sewer, it will eventually send back what we dump into it.

8 hours ago, hutchings1963 said:

Sounds like to me some body is not getting there brown envelopes regular.

Wishful thinking! This has nothing to do with brown envelopes. As I said in a post a couple of months ago when this type of stuff started happening, it has everything to do with the military junta imposing its will. If they are serious about shutting down the sex trade in Pattaya, there's nothing that anyone can do to stop it. Hopefully, that won't happen, though.

Perhaps instead ... they should try attracting good quality expats. Just kidding! 555

1 hour ago, fruitman said:

Strange cause i've seen many bars full of girls in manila, just like in pattaya. Also there were loads of them on the streets/hotels...

Most of the 'action' shifted to Angeles after Ermita was shut down years ago. Today, Ermita is just a shell of its glory days. Over the past couple of years, though, Angeles has also seen its fair share of raids. There are some go-gos in Makati in Manila and in a few other locations, but nothing like Pattaya.

2 hours ago, DerekMarshall said:

"water as clear as the Andaman sea" 

 

doesn't speak much for the Andaman does it! filthy sea water where zero birds are seen and very few fish near the shore as filthy untreated sewage is pumped into the sea..jump in get dysentery and possibly e coli.  Everyone knows as the town expanded 1000 fold over the years the local council did not upgrade the sewage works. 

 

Should read "Water as clear as the sewage that is pumped into it" 

Sewage is the bane of all popular Thai beaches - even in Phuket. It's just that Pattaya is much worse. Hopefully, the military government recognizes the problem and takes some action to address it.

7 minutes ago, Mook23 said:

so the military doesn't do soapies, handj*bs, massages, karaoke? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL......

if they wanna clean up thailand's image abroad he will ALSO have to clean things up abroad. the massage saloons behind my corner in the west aren't very "clean" and any local (guy) saying he's off for thai massage gets the eye blink ;-)

my point: after being the epicentre of mongerism for the last 30+ years, pattaya (and for most people abroad: the whole of thailand) is an openair brothel for lowlives, white trash, old f@rts, wifebeaters and depraved western sexpats.

I agree with what you're saying, but this is starting to look serious. I never expected Crazy House in Bangkok to be raided either (for rumored ownership reasons), but it happened a couple of months ago.

I think that many posters here are missing an obvious point. Pattaya's new mayor has just been appointed by the military junta, and he's a police general. One of the junta's goals is to clean up Thailand's image abroad, so the police chief is probably just taking his marching orders from above, and the Mirror article is just an excuse to justify what has already been planned. The sex trade in Pattaya has been tolerated in the past because it's been viewed as being beneficial by the local authorities. However, the junta's view may be different. In Thailand, the tail doesn't wag the dog, especially when the military is in charge. If they really decide to curtail it, it will happen, and no one will be able to stop it. This happened in Ermita in Manila years ago forcing many of the clubs and gogos to relocate to Angeles.