Bogbrush

Firstly, it depends upon the law of the country where the crime was committed as to (1) what exact offence took place and (2) what rights in law a victim has to defend himself against that offence.  Whilst this can hugely vary (look at the wildly different legislation in US states) the rule of thumb is (1) the response has to be proportional to the threat - ‘knife to a gun fight’ scenario - and (2) response is only justified to prevent the commission of the crime, not after the event i.e. when the suspect is fleeing. This of course leads to the grey area as to how much if any force can be used to apprehend the suspect.

Having served as a police officer in three countries, I can assure you it’s never cut and dried and so often the victim ends up as the accused…

18 hours ago, sandyf said:

The massaman curry originated on board the old British trading vessels. By the time the vessels had travelled from Britain to India the meat had gone off so when in India they took on board various spices and from India to the far east the meat and potatoes were mixed with the spices to take away the rancid taste from the meat.

History may say it had Persian influence, but brought to the Far East on board ships of the East India Trading Company.

‘Massaman’ is a corruption of ‘Muslim’ ..

CK is a bit of a one horse town, but if you go to/stay at the Fortuna Hotel – which has a carpark available to leave vehicles – they run a shuttle tuk tuk to the bridge and beyond to Laos Immigration;  I recall low denomination USD bills are needed.  Can’t advise as to the time required over there, though - sorry.

4 hours ago, ballpoint said:

 

 It is also UK registered, flying the red ensign

 

 

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I can’t see too clearly from the photo but I don’t think she’s flying the red ensign - the flag seems to have an emblem so possibly/probably a British dependency of some sort.

23 hours ago, Soda Soda said:

For a fee of 6,000 baht you can make a will using a lawyer.

This guy advertises wills at 900 baht..

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4 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

That's true, i'll have to try the resting pulse rate. I forgot to mention that I've also been intermittent fasting, + going to the gym 4 -5 days per week, mainly weight lifting and cardio 2X times per week &  already lost nearly 3 KG in in weight. 

For those who like a bit of alcohol but want to minimise their intake for dietary or other reasons, you should try Katemba; it’s a drink the Portuguese had in Mozambique - red wine and (diet/zero) coke 40/60 in a tall glass with plenty of ice.  Sounds revolting but is actually very nice (rather like Sangria) and a good use for the awful/cheap S African Mont Clair box wine.

The initial announcement stated international companies could be used wef September, although it didn’t come from Dept of Immigration but some other govt source, and as we know the left hand is frequently contradicted by the right hand…so much also depends on the attitude of the specific immigration office itself - Phuket, for example, has never shown any interest in wanting to see insurance for an OA EoS.

Logic would dictate any EoS prior to September would require the 400 000/40 00 baht local policy, and any EoS after that date would require 3.5m baht, local or otherwise. As with most LoS matters, however, it’s like a pig on acid - you don’t know which way it’s going to go….

2 hours ago, JimGant said:

A week or so ago there was a post on this forum by one of our veteran and sharp posters, NancyL. She mentioned that her husband was going to do a border bounce to come back, without a reentry permit, and get stamped in with a visa exempt entry. Then get an in-country Non Imm O visa, and then get his retirement extension without having the onerous insurance requirement due to his historical OA visa. But, he was told that Chiang Mai Immigration would see through this scheme and thus still require insurance. WOW. Don't know who told him this info (NancyL's postings indicate she and her husband use a facilitating agent), but I'm surprised I have not heard any follow on banter from this posting. Anyway, maybe just a quirk -- or maybe the insurance mafia is seeing revenues dry up with conversions from OA to O visas..... Obviously, this would be big news if true, and if not just in Chiang Mai. Keep your eyes peeled.

I’ve always thought the O retirement visa would suffer the domino effect and also require insurance eventually;  many have argued otherwise, stating the govt will never enforce insurance on the other O classes (marriage/dependant etc) but I suppose we shall just wait and see.  Ironically I fully support an insurance requirement as not to have it is in my view irresponsible but I also believe in choice of provider:  the govt can set the level, and I’ll select the company…

In early 2000 Vietnam announced it was, wef July 2020, changing visas to 30 days with NO extensions.  Then Covid shut the place down, so I’m not sure if the legislation was promulgated. 

5 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

it was in her possession and she signed for it.

Yes. Your point?

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

I meant irrelevant in regards to the arrest and subsequent incarceration.

Ive see pics of the parcel it was not opened.

No, it wasn’t- that’s one of the main sticking points; the police arrived before she could open it.

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

Irrelevant.

 

You’re the one who said there was a difference between knowing and not knowing; I’ve told you she knew him - so how is that irrelevant?

7 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Asking your wife to open the package is not remotely the same as someone opening a parcel that randomly arrived address to a person they don't know.

FYI, She knew Dave Rensburg.

42 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That hardly matters as she, apparently, confessed to trafficking.

Dave Rensburg - see screenshot on freeashley.org

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

Has it been made public who's name was on the delivery ?

 

 

As per freeashley.org - there is a screenshot showing the parcel and the addressee was Dave Rensburg.

8 hours ago, pedro01 said:

 

 

The law should not be confused with right and wrong.

The law also shouldn’t be confused with justice.

1 minute ago, Twod0gs said:

It is quite obvious from reading the comments in this group that virtually none of you have read the full story, or the confession by her boyfriend.

If you don't know the full story how can you fairly come to such vilifying conclusions. This was a naïve young girl pretty much straight out of school who was taken advantage of by greedy, uncaring older men - not an unusual scenario especially in this part of the world.. She had no history of drug taking and no drugs or paraphernalia were found in the search of her apartment. All she wanted to do was travel the world and do good by teaching young (Thai) children. She was apparently held in high regard by parents and loved by her colleagues and kids. Hardly the profile of a hardened drug smuggler.

Give the poor girl a fair go and cease with all the disparaging remarks.

Let us hope that common sense and justice rule - she has already spent way too much time in a Thai jail for something that would not even result in arrest, let alone conviction, in the civilised world.

Maybe you should read my post - 3 above..

1 hour ago, oldcpu said:

I would like to read the Immigration 'proof' requirements surrounding such a amendment.  I am very much from Missouri wrt its practicality (in my case).

 

If it requires a custom Thai form to be filled in with director's signatures, I am pretty certain the Insurance company (that the pension and insurance organisation I receive my pension from) will not sign it.  Further, if it requires an entry in a custom Thai database wrt the Insurance information (from said foreign insurance company) I am pretty certain also that will not be completed by the Insurance organisation I receive my pension and Insurance from.

 

Do you have any specifics on this amendment that you would be able to point to?

 

 

44 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

I faced the same issue back when the OA insurance was mandated. My I strange company in the US (Anthem Blue Cross) would not sign the necessary document and so I ended up buying a Thai policy with PCH. Now what my PCH policy will nit cover my insurance from the west will cover the rest but I must pay first and then submit the claim for the reimbursement....

I’ve just Googled it and you can find the ‘proof’ that foreign policies can be used on Thailand-construction.com (and no doubt many other sources) where it stated The Health Ministry says that insurance policies can be purchased from their home country or domestically within Thailand, but stipulate that the coverage must maintain that minimum of 3 million baht or the equivalent if the policy is issued in a foreign currency.. Trust this clarifies…

37 minutes ago, oldcpu said:

Not exactly. per many posts in this thread, you have to produce a letter from an Insurance company stating they denied you Health Insurance.  I'm 68, on a Type-OA, and I would happy go for 3-million THB in the bank, but the insurance companies on the limited Thai immigration approved health insurance companies list won't give me such a letter, but rather want to insure me.  They figure I am healthy enough still to have me buy their insurance.

 

But in my case it would require me to buy double health insurance, as I already have health insurance (covering both myself and my Thai wife) superior to the 3-million Thai immigration required Health Insurance for foreigners (on Type-OA visas) where mine is heavily subsidized for payments as it is part of my pension.  I do NOT want to give up my superior current Health Insurance to purchase Health Insurance from the Thai approved list, which is not as good.

 

Hence to stay on a retirement extension of my permission to stay (on a Type-OA visa)  I was looking at buying expensive double health insurance. 

 

I had planned to leave Thailand (invalidating my Type-OA)  and returning Visa Exempt, followed by applying for a Type-O visa, ...  but given the COVID situation I decided not to do that (cancelling all travel plans). 

 

Instead I have applied for an extension on my permission to stay (on a Type-OA) based on "marriage" extension, instead of my previous "retirement" extension.

 

 

The change to the government rules raising the requirement to 3,000,000 Baht also allows for overseas insurance to be utilised, thereby amending the previous requirement that only Thai based companies could be used.

3 hours ago, khunPer said:

An O-A visa is really only of interest for those that wish to keep their money abroad and don't plan to stay in Thailand for ever, or at least long time, a perfect solution for many an elder snowbird...????

Apologies, but I don’t understand;  surely an OA is for people who plan to stay in Thailand for a long time..? They also have to keep 800 000 baht here..