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When Thais become violent we call it Thainess.. now that a German slaughtered a whole family do we call it Farangness ?

Sour Kraut?

Its been 42 the last couple of weeks though, unseasonably in April

Never actually looked at what the record was, assumed It would have been more

I think our record in Aus has been something crazy like 50c

44.6 cant be the highest ever surely?

No point coming here with your wife.

Better as a holiday destination, leave her at home.

Whats the bet the falang wife is the biggest source of expenditure

it's a matter of personal preference, some people just like being scammed remotely, as opposed to being scammed directly....

I prefer getting scammed directly

5K, Im going to assume $US, minus 800 for airfare, 500 for hotel rooms for 2 week a couple hundred for bits and pieces and food

If you dont drink. still leaves 3 1/2 K for the lovely ladies in pattaya, 125000 baht

125000 divided by 2000 ( dont be a cheap charlie) = scammed by 62.5 lovely ladies of pattaya

The Chinese, Cambodians, even Nigerians all have their own organisations, churches or other places of worship etc. but white people almost invariably go it alone and have no support mechanism when living abroad. Sad really.

I strongly disagree.

With the its sad white guys go it alone thing that is.

Involve your self in a community, that just means more people that will try lend money off you, more money that goes to gifts and such that involve people you dont really know, invite/ attract more trouble in the long run

Extended family just means more people that will try and sponge off you if you are doing better than them. also just attracts more trouble in the end

China is wealthy and powerful given its size, but then divide that by number of inhabitants, most of the country is still really third world.

Money is the best form of security, and most people only go by what they see, hiding that wealth is smarter

I roll my eyes everytime I hear someone say "Oh, not all thai men are the same" like its some big revelation. Yes I course I know that. 100% of them are not the same....but 90% of them <deleted> are.

Could not give a rats backside what thai men think, nor whether I'll be "accepted" by thai people.

There are no opportunities for kids in thailand, totally irrelevant if by the time mine grow up they have a regular income stream from my investments, which in part are fatter, because Im not going to listen to all this crap, outlay a bunch of money for lame things for people that wouldnt give a crap even if I was thai.

Yes it's true that there is little to no solidarity amongst white people. White people would rather become spokespersons advocating for the rights of strangers who happen to be non-white (such as Africans) trying to demand an end to (perceived or actual) discrimination suffered by someone who is non-white, while totally ignoring their own interests. It makes white people feel good about themselves. By contrast, no black man would ever in his wildest dreams point out discrimination suffered by a white person, he would simply dismiss it and laugh it off. Or even justify it, based on historical reasons.

That's why it's so rare to see white people in large groups anywhere outside of the west (Russians excepted as I've already pointed out) because white people can't stand each other, much less band together and start an organization that acts in their interests. And of course I'm not referring to the racist, fascist organisations of the past but rather legitimate organisations like say the "westerner's society of Thailand" that would advocate for easier visas, no more dual pricing (especially for residents) and things like this.

Sure you may not care about whether you fit into Thai society or not but if you're always alone it's very easy to become disillusioned and lonely not knowing where you fit in.

I agree that even Thais don't care so much about each other, but when push comes to shove, if a foreigner comes into the picture it's very easy for Thais to band together in an "us vs. them" scenario. Also, when Thais move to the west, even only temporary for their studies for example, they all seem to magically find a Thai community to be part of, whether it's a Wat gathering, or being members of the Thai students society (or if that doesn't exist then the Asian students society). Nothing of the sort has ever existed for westerners in Thailand or any other non-western country to the best of my knowledge.

Mmm, yes

I dont really see it as a negative thing, white guys being loners as it were

As for disillusioned and lonely, personally I just have to work, go nuts if I didnt, Just goes by personality type, for some that void that needs to be filled is people, some its just keeping busy regardless of people

Is 'fleeing the nanny states' a euphemism for 'can't get laid at home', now?

That one gets tired as well

Seriously come visit Australia, see what most of the women look like

Even the hot ones, never seem to last past 23, whole country is too fat

You got maybe 10% between 18-23 and thats about it

Most could throw themselves at me,beg, still wouldnt touch them

The Chinese, Cambodians, even Nigerians all have their own organisations, churches or other places of worship etc. but white people almost invariably go it alone and have no support mechanism when living abroad. Sad really.

I strongly disagree.

With the its sad white guys go it alone thing that is.

Involve your self in a community, that just means more people that will try lend money off you, more money that goes to gifts and such that involve people you dont really know, invite/ attract more trouble in the long run

Extended family just means more people that will try and sponge off you if you are doing better than them. also just attracts more trouble in the end

China is wealthy and powerful given its size, but then divide that by number of inhabitants, most of the country is still really third world.

Money is the best form of security, and most people only go by what they see, hiding that wealth is smarter

I roll my eyes everytime I hear someone say "Oh, not all thai men are the same" like its some big revelation. Yes I course I know that. 100% of them are not the same....but 90% of them &lt;deleted&gt; are.

Could not give a rats backside what thai men think, nor whether I'll be "accepted" by thai people.

There are no opportunities for kids in thailand, totally irrelevant if by the time mine grow up they have a regular income stream from my investments, which in part are fatter, because Im not going to listen to all this crap, outlay a bunch of money for lame things for people that wouldnt give a crap even if I was thai.

For me its just the women, and it is as simple as that. For me anyway, Thai women are the hottest on the planet.

And Im not just talking about the ones I might get naked with, just going out, a cute waitress here, a stunner at the mall there....just happens a lot more in Thailand, the ratio of hot ones seems to be far higher than back home in Australia thats for damn sure

Khmer and vietnames girls ok, but dont compare to Thais

Shallow, but whatever.

With Everything else, meh, its just for the most part, same shit, different country

and theres the bond for spousal visa, up to $15,000

You give a crap about a tourist attraction that charges you an extra 200 baht when you say you are splurging 150000 on everything else?.

............

You can go to a cheaper country, where infrastructure is worse. Or go to a dearer country, where you pay triple to get into the same kind of tourist attraction.

There will still be 30-35 million other tourists coming to thailand next year, and no one will really lose any sleep over the OP not coming

National parks and museums in Britain are free, as indeed are parks in most other EU countries. And, unlike Thailand, we certainly dont charge people more to use anything just because they are foreign. Indeed it would be a crime anywhere in the EU to do this.

Most of the 30-35 million tourists in Thailand now are not the fairly civilised and high-spending Westerners they used to be: they are now mostly cut-price tourists from China, Indian and some former Soviet nations. If I was financially involved in Thai tourism I would be concerned about this.

1. Is the double pricing with the tourist attractions, seriously that big a deal? Seriously?

Theres a water park in Chai Nat, my daughter loves, think its 30 baht to get in the main gate, then another 30 baht to get into the water park, Think I pay 100 baht to get into the main gate, dont even really pay attention as the wife usually brings the neighbours wives and their kids.

So there will be like 8 of us, and it will only cost me 600 baht, $23 australian, I just laugh, something similar back home, 1 person would cost me $23. So I pay an extra $3 for not being brown, who cares???

2. That last paragraph. If you were financially invested in Thai torism, would you really be concerned by more chinese? Really?, or would you just adapt, what was it last year?, a jump from 25 to 30 million tourists

I dont see an valid point in the OP that gives a reason for not having a trip/ holiday in Thailand.

Pretty much everything, I assume he, said is why Thailand is still so relatively cheap.

Taxis dont put the meter on hop back out.

You give a crap about a tourist attraction that charges you an extra 200 baht when you say you are splurging 150000 on everything else?.

Dont tip at restaurants the thais dont.

You can go to a cheaper country, where infrastructure is worse. Or go to a dearer country, where you pay triple to get into the same kind of tourist attraction.

There will still be 30-35 million other tourists coming to thailand next year, and no one will really lose any sleep over the OP not coming

Can I ask what work you were doing in laos to support yourself.

Just curious, as mine is thai/lao/cambodian

Pondered about moving to laos or cambodia, as its even cheaper, but cant imagine any work that would be worth it

Some Thais do, many don't.

Same as Americans.

I was once asked by a clueless American when she found out I was coming from Thailand, "Did you have a lot of snow there last year for Christmas?"

As the saying goes, "Against such ignorance even the Gods would strive in vain".

Thats interesting

Yes, I find Thais similar to Americans when it comes to not giving a s**t about other countries

I love my smartphone, never really bored anymore.

I remember the days before. The days before even the first mobiles, when you wanted to get hold of someone, you had to wait till they get home and ring them on a landline. Go out for a night on the town or some sporting event, or concert, if you got seperated, then that was it..unless you had arranged to meet up somewhere previously if you got lost.

I dont miss that.

And having to queue up anywhere, read the paper if you had one, otherwise yawn.

Love the internet, love smartphones, prefer how things are now

And PS:

This situation is exactly why you carry around your own smartphone with a decent internet plan and with google translate on it, if you cant be bothered learning the language.

Some guys, seriously

A telephone isn't a toy for a child to play with

I strongly disagree.

Thats where they learn a lot of skills, needed for later on, probably learn better than in the thai public education system.

Brought a phone for both step daughter and daughter very early on, at about 3 yrs old, both spent the first couple years glued to things like thai alphabet songs. Just buy one of those cheap dtac phones, with a very solid drop proof case.

Buy your kid a phone!

Whats the spelling in thai?

Just change the english spelling to b instead of p, even if it is a ป

varabon

Youve got me stumped as to why it would be romanized that way, with a v instead of j or w

เจริญ in thai means prosper, sounds more like jarUn than porn

You got me what vara is supposed to be.

Its like a puzzle, I now have to work out, but romanization of thai is usually retarded

You have to submit an itinerary of what you are going to do on holiday?

What possible reason could there be for that?

Chaeng Wattana especially, think they just prefer dealing with agents, every time Ive been there witnessed two or three obnoxious falangs per hour throwing a hissy fit.

If you worked there 40 hours a week, I'm sure it wouldnt take long to get a negative view of foreigners

It is a buddhist country, many of their real first names are done as blessings for good fortune and good luck, may sound nice to a falang that doesnt know what the name means, but would sound ghastly in Thai, especially repeated every day.

Father in laws real first name translates to 'sweet' as an example. If you were a dude and your first name was sweet, youd probably adopt a nick name as well.

And in my neck of the woods, they all have the same family name, about 500 of them, which basically just translates to birn in -the name of the tambon....a real headache when it comes to working out who the wife is actually related too, dont think she is sure about all of them

There are 2 of us, me and my Thai gf. We live an hour SSE of Loei in a small village in a house with a fabulous view, which I paid 500,000 for. I give her 25,000 per month out of which she pays for food (including the occasional meal out), all the household bills, plus car repaynents and other running expenses (petrol, tax, servicing, etc). She is very happy, as am I

loei,sounds awesome

similar with me, 700000 in uthaithai, and the view still knocks me out

yeah but do you have colored toilet tiles as walls?

I was browsing the issaan houses for sale the other day online and most farang houses look like giant toilets. Yeah nice area but it seems every room was built like an ugly toilet from the thai 50's and the furniture was all bought in tesco.

Yeah you live a cheap lifestyle and its fine but don't go on putting that it's the regular price for a person raised in the west and used to not barfing everytime they open their eyes indoor.

700k furnished.. just basic decent quality mattress is 50-100k, plus basic kitchen/dining furniture an other 50-100k and 20-25k for a tv and 30-50k for a decent couch.. can't source much more than toilet tiles at homepro after that

2mb you can have something really decent if you build it yourself. Which is still really cheap.

Lol, yes, most of the furniture is from tesco. And the bathroom at least has those big ugly tiles

To be fair though, did build most of it with myself, along with her father who works for a local building company.

When i did need workers most charged about 1000B a day.

So probably would have cost about double that for a farang that has no clue about building.

Id disagree with you on furnishings though, 100k for a top end mattress, how many people back home bother spending 4k for a mattress? I think total for furnishing would have come to about the 150000 range - only bothered with one air con in the bedroom.

When we first got serious. i.e when she got pregnant

I remember freaking out becuase, her parents house, which luckily had a proper foundation and half the bottom floor concreted, I gave the mother a mere 10000B, we went on a trip, came back a week later, and the father had put in three walls, door frame and door, window frame and windows and painted it all, yes bright green

Then later extensions to the parents house, another 3 rooms, concreted and tiled would have come in at about 100000.

So there are those considerationsnas well, who her family is, where you source the materials from, how much you do yourself.

But I'd still question why you'd need to bother. I only did it this way becuase that was the 'dream' if some dude was just wanting to retire here, you could rent a small decent flat for 2-3 thosuand baht a month in a rural town, you can buy your 100k mattress but then what else do you need if you are going to spend half your days drinking coffee and reading the paper.

15000 a month for a condo in pattaya, why if you are hardly going to use the swimming pool, get sick of all the people and sit on your balcony most of the time.

It all ads up over time, almost eveeything is 20-80% cheaper here than back home, half price again out in the country vs Bangkok or the tourist areas. Who cares if your day sofa is from Tesco or not

There are 2 of us, me and my Thai gf. We live an hour SSE of Loei in a small village in a house with a fabulous view, which I paid 500,000 for. I give her 25,000 per month out of which she pays for food (including the occasional meal out), all the household bills, plus car repaynents and other running expenses (petrol, tax, servicing, etc). She is very happy, as am I

loei,sounds awesome

similar with me, 700000 in uthaithai, and the view still knocks me out

As for everyone else.

250k a month, dont think i could spend that if I tried ???

Car repayments :13000 a month, which would be the biggest cost

Electricity: someone said 4000 a month, dont know how you do that, that would be US $115 a month. Mine comes to 2000B a month, thats for 6 people, plus another 4-6 relos that visit every second week.

Kids school is 30000 a year for a 6 year old, so 2500 a month

Food: if we didnt go out to restaurants, would be sweet FA, she has a few relos with farms in the area, but even with restaurants, it would be under 10000 a month. Food I find to be the most noteable difference between living out in the sticks compared to Bangkok, usually around half price of what it is in Bangkok

Mortgage for me now is pretty much negligable

So, all up, under 30000 a month plus healthcare. Most other families around here are living of under 10000 a month

^^^ Agreed. No way would I raise kids in Thailand if I had the choice to raise them in a first world Western country. End of.

No that's not what he asked but there are costs that are hidden such as good medical care, education, knowledge of the real world, social interaction with Westerners...

No way Thailand.

??? The main reason I decided to do it here, after the costs of course, was her 500 relatives, the 50 cousins the kids have to play with

Social interactions with westerners??? LOL what??