Merylhighground

My immediate reaction to this is don't your employers handle this side of things? 

All of our visa/WP matters are handled by our Human Resources (personnel) dept. 

I'm always wary of any 'consultancy services' and if you meet the criteria required, (which you clearly must do as you are a current holder of a WP and Non-Immi  my advice would be to go to your nearest Immigration/Min of Labour office with all your documentation and do it yourself.

10 minutes ago, Lamkyong said:

it always seems to be a high ranking police officer

Do TV members associate with any other type of police officer?

It is a meaningless, much bandied term intended to try to give a shred of credence to sheer, ludicrous, nonsense such as the OP here....

It can be stored on file along such other classic nonsenses as: 'non BG wife/GF, my professional Thai Friends...., my Thai/Chinese MBA wife......,' 'my high ranking military father in law'....etc.

Such devices are usually used by the TV fantasist type who see themselves as the pillars of society because their TEFL related 'high status' position once allowed them to shake hands with the mayor of whatever rat infested pissant burgh they infest.....

19 hours ago, tropo said:

 

I can't imagine any person who is as critical of other humans as you are could be any better than the people you deride. You take this to a new level. To a level which most "normal" people would consider offensive. 

 Quite, it's all part of the great delusion in these types. Heads so far aloof they can't see their own ar*eholes. 

He's probably a total prat but thinks he's the 'Farang Supreme' thanks to his 40K a month pension or TEFL salary and the fact that a few locals in whatever pissant slum he lives in are tolerant of his presence.

16 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

I'm betting that the two most ardent supporters of anti-prositution and sleaze in this thread haven't really seen much at all of Thailand at all and think the whole country is exactly the same as Pattaya. Oh OK, they may have been on the odd trip here and there but what they understand and have leaned about Thailand, outside of what they've seen in Pattaya, totals a whopping great zero.  What's my evidence for this? Well one uses internet jargon and acronyms which means he's probably not old enough to have a long stay visa, I'm betting tourist at best. And the other rallies to the defence of his good lady at the slightest provocation and writes to ardently protest her innocence et all, a sure sign of a newbie in my book as evidenced by his own words.

 

Hardly worth the debate really.

Absolutely spot on. Their arguments do rather smack of the utterly ignorant posts made by outraged backpackers from Lonely Planet's Thorn Tree forum back in the early days of the internet forum...boy was it fun setting them straight back then......

These types who spout off phrases about 'scum and villains' ad nauseum, or claim they exist in every shadow of every corner of Thailand are usually those rather sad individuals full of some delusion regarding their own importance. They see themselves as 'at one' with all things Thai, as true beacons of 'expat' life thanks to a TEFL certificate or a meagre pension which affords them a level of status they have never experienced previously in their lives and it gives the poor dears an inflated sense of their own importance.....

The last home visit we had a few years ago now also had a fee. 2 cups of coffee, 2 of the wife's scones washed down with a wallop at my cider after they showed an interest in it...I'd have rather paid 1000B....

The collected horror short stories by E Nesbit. 

An author better known for her children's books such as The Railway Children, Five Children and It etc; her horror shorts are incredible and available for free at Archive.org et al.....

Something Wrong (1893)
Grim Tales (1893)
Tales Told in Twilight (1897)
Fear (1910)

Perfect for those dark, stormy, rainy season nights.....

OP, he plopaply heard you call him a 'faLang'...when some white bloke calls me a 'faLang' who has a fraction of my language skills I usually want to knock him into next week too...

12 hours ago, samsensam said:

 

sure there are educated girls in thailand and if you stop spending all your time hanging around bars and prostitutes then you will come across them

 

my thai friends, male and female, are mostly educated at ABAC, TU or Chula and have master degrees from us or uk unis,  they have good jobs, enjoy foreign travel with work and for holidays and are most certainly well educated.

 

 

Samsen must have come up in the world since I was last there. Not many HiSo, super educated Thais around then, it was more of an Urban mess, a railside slum, a lot of grimy grindhouses and not the sort of area one would associate with the 'educated Thai elite' TV members so fantasise about having as their exclusive circles of friends....

There are 'good' drunks and 'bad' drunks.

It sounds like you got unlucky, however experience has taught me that any drunk is potentially volatile, regardless of their nationality or disposition when sober, and keeping your gob shut, avoiding eye contact, and  if you can't avoid proximity to them, is always a wise move. Still his behaviour is inexcusable. I hope you reported the incident to the authorities. 

One of the nicest blokes I ever knew was a lovely, charming Swedish bloke when sober though when in his cups he was a downright menace; alternatively one of the least popular, most mealy-mouthed, downright poisonous blokes I ever knew, always moaning, short tempered and Thai-bashing at any chance when sober, was surprisingly a 'good' drunk; happy, eloquent, able to hold an intelligent, reasoned debate, would love everything about being in Thailand...the booze sure is a funny thing when taken in excess...

I'm sure you'll soon get the TV puritans airing their anti-booze, anti-Pattaya agendas, clouding your thread in the process...so, here's hoping you make a full recovery and get the chance to 'discuss' the occurrence with the 'English' thug.

It depends on how you judge 'education'?

I think you're talking about bar girls here with your silly 'TG' label and not Thai females in general so I'll clarify that to start with.

If  you are judging their education by bits of paper dished out by myriad Education Institutes, you would be correct that many 'TGs' are not formally educated.

If you judge them by learning from others and from life, learning fast from adversity to gain the skills needed to survive and provide, I think you'd find 'TGs' are very highly educated. It's when people don't think that these lasses aren't clever because they dropped out of school at 12 to a life of grind on the family farm, or someone else's farm, that they come unstuck often with the messy unhappy consequences so often highlighted in expat life. 

I have known, still know,  a good few lasses who have done very well for themselves often 'dishonestly' if one applies Western Moral values, but one can't avoid the fact that they have done well from nothing at all. If some fool is so dumb that they will hand over their little all to a hooker, knowing full well she's a hooker and he is well down on her list of priorities apart from as an ATM, especially in this day and age of technology when the warnings are all over the internet (and beyond) then it is hard to find sympathy for him. Over my years in Thailand I have found my sympathies swinging firmly towards the girls over the idiots who line up at airports the world over to hand over the sum of their life's work to a random stranger.

Hilarious Morakot.

I haven't seen an 'Angry of Tunbridge Wells' post like this for a while.  They used to be a regular thing on here but it seems that the general 'mind your own business' or 'who cares?' type of replies must have created a shift in the attitude.

I could imagine such outrages as reported in the OP must have made his monocle pop out and his huge moustache quiver in indignation......

I suppose the OP is one of those TV members who wouldn't leave the house unless in full Evening Dress, has never done anything wrong, married a Thai/Chinese General's daughter, engages in serious cultural activities at the Siam Society from waking to sleeping...... 

Maybe he should be made 'mayor of all foreigners in Thailand' as he seems to want to dictate his 'standards on one and all.....

As I understand it, volunteers require a Work Permit which is obtained through having the correct visa type.

I've not heard of a volunteer visa before but usually a Work Permit is obtained from the Min of Labour via a nonimmigrant visa and the required official paperwork/documentation from the organisation or company.  

It is on the Work Permit where your tasks, responsibilities will be defined via the paperwork provided by the organisation, or the Min of Labour officials may even ask you about your role when you collect your Work Permit if they are unfamiliar with such a role.

Have a care to read through this section carefully as there are cases of people thinking simply having a Work Permit permits them carte blanche to do anything while at work, however it does not.

You are supposed to remain firmly in the boundaries set out in the Work Permit.

As this part is usually hand written by the issuing official, when you collect your WP, if you feel there has been an omission you can point that out, or if you are lucky like me, and deal with a good, efficient, friendly office they may even ask you to read through the whole thing and make any amendments you suggest. 

For example if your Work Permit does not have 'translation' as one of your permitted tasks and you go and do a load of translation work, technically you could wind up in the soup.....

I hope that is clear though I am certain that others will be along with more 'hands on' experience than I can provide. 

Unfortunately for the handful of 'expats' with seemingly perfectly 'legitimate' reasons for being in the country, the climate of attitudes towards foreigners is now such that the hoops are going to get higher and much, much harder for 'normal' folks to jump through, especially with elections/more political turmoil in the offing...whoever can puff their chest out the furthest claiming 'Thailand for the Thais' etc will have the biggest advantage.

I'm glad/lucky that when I have to do the visa/WP stuff, my employers are pretty clued up and efficient at providing all the relevant paperwork as and when needed. Even after a twenty year working history in Thailand I do wonder how much longer it will be before my luck runs out.....so much for all this 'good guys in'  nonsense........

Perhaps you could get your company to provide you with the necessary documentation to show Immigration you are in the country for legitimate reasons or to get you the relevant visa and if needed, a Work Permit. Even maybe to the extreme extent of opening up a Bangkok office with you as manager??? 

Good luck but expect things to get a lot worse before they get easier.....

20 hours ago, joeyg said:

This is not an anti smoking thread.  I encouraged the OP to give his neighbor cigarettes and encourage him to smoke much more, much more.  Really now... 

Indeed sir but the pasty, whiny 'anti smoking' zealots' love to have the whine ....I love blowing my smoke over them....

You could try and actually talk (in a nice way)  to the 'offender' and surprise, surprise he may be a totally reasonable chap and comply to your wishes.

I like a cigar of an evening, especially on hot, sunny days, over my iced strong cider in the garden, but out of consideration to the family and my neighbours I shift ho to the top of the garden away from the houses at 'lighting up' time. Not all smokers are out to make a nuisance of themselves no matter how much thin skinned, whiny, non-smokers, may think they do....

Sounds dreadful! Good Luck! 

There is a world of difference between 'complaining' or 'explaining what you require'. As long as you explain in a clear, polite way I can't see what the problem is. You obviously already have skills in the vernacular so maybe an explanation in Thai would also demonstrate you are beyond the 'Gor Gai Kor Kwai' level and give them a pointer....

Perhaps because he doesn't want to speak the kind of rough, coarse Thai the average bar skank does.

Hey come on now! I'm sure we've all been truly impressed at some point by some vest wearing Bar Rat squawking at the top of his voice the atonal snippets of 'Thai' he's picked up from the lasses....

I find it funny/sad when I see Westerners 'waiing' all over the place as though they think it makes them seem more 'with it' oer shows off their 'Thainess'.....

By all means acknowledge the wai with eye contact, a smile and a nod of the head and that will suffice.

I recall the numb TEFLer, a habitue of a well known boozer on KSRd who had also learned a few words of Thai and he would, once under the influence of the sauce begin squawking at any Thai who was unfotunate to go near him, and waiing every freelance slapper in the place in an attempt to 'impress' the backpackers by his Thainess.

He failed. Constantly.

Just don't do it if you don't understand the social intricacies, and they are intricate indeed......

Walk through the few abandoned building projects on the outskirts of Bangkok which fell foul to the crash of 1997. Always an eerie and atmospheric, sobering (when you think of the sheer amount of money lost) experience, especially just as a storm approaches. Can't wait to get back in Sept/Oct.

Walk anywhere for leisure or take any form of exercise in public without drawing comments about being 'crazy' from the locals.

Often recently when I am out walking I find myself with Thai company either a fellow walker or a cyclist or jogger along the way at some point.

In the past my walks were always totally solitary affairs bar the odd motorcycle buzzing by. Thais seems to have woken up to the importance of healthy exercise these last ten years or so.

It seems most of these 'bad guys' cleared (some with very long over stays) before the Mar 20th deadline and have since returned to Thailand with no problems reported, in fact I've not heard of anyone getting banned from before or after the Mar 20th deadline as per this farce....another joke from Thai Immigration.....shame they don't put as much effort into actually doing their jobs......

AC is a far better option in an office than a fan. Get on to your boss!! Fans can play merry heck with paperwork.

At times we (on the 17th floor) if it were too cool naturally for AC would just slide open a few windows but that too could sometimes blow papers all over the show.....fans were a pain in the behind.....

If you have to make do with a fan, invest in some paperweights....

Most of the bigger department stores have a decent selection of fans in their electrical units.

OP, go live in Saudi and have a whinge on your facebook or 'Saudi Visa Expat Forum' (if there's such a thing).....otherwise, enjoy it as a part of the privilege and rich tapestry of living in a rich, enlightening foreign culture alien to your own and stop your whining or you'll never get on in life....

OP, did you report this to the appropriate authorities perchance?

Why farang come Thailand and talk for farangs on internet and always say Thai no good ?....

Thailand not same same farangland, if come Thailand and say Thai no good...why not stay in farangland, but farang come Thailand for lady and get drunk for beer

Feeble.

Severe overuse of the word 'farang' from a lame farang written post.

I don't know whey so many 'farang' like to see themselves as defenders of all things Thai when they are legitimately called into question, also when they do so why do they utterly overuse the word 'farang'?

Do they think it will make people think they are Thai, have some incredible insight into Thai culture or change their own skin colour? It makes my skin crawl when I'm out and about or on the internet and hear/read some dumb 'farang' saying/typing 'farang' every second word in the mistaken intention that it shows some kind of 'insight'.....

Pathetic and embarrassing....Please turn it in (and YOU know just who YOU are).....