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Ofcourse it would be easy to get a gun in Thailand, its easy anywhere, as long you got the dosh people will have the gun.

I lived in my western country 45 years. Let me say you that it is rather impossible to get a gun there if you are not a qualified person.

jumbo,

thank u for the stats u gave here. The difference is not so big. It gives me a confirmation that my country (Germany) is one of the most safe and quiet countries in the world now. Why is it so? I think it depends on the education level. We are well educated in a humanistic tradition. The actual education level in Thailand - I would suppose u agree - is not from its best. Education gives u the possibility to know, to reflect, to differentiate and at least to control yourself. These things have to be improved and to be corrected in the future. There are a lot of other stuff and hidden matters but I think it's enough for now.

Sorry to disagree ( well flame to be honest )

The standards of education in Thailand are as good as anywhere in the Region and the graveyards of Europe groan under the weight of your humanistic tradition. Germans, Brits and indeeed Thai's have strong martial traditions, don't kid yourself that all is well in the back streets of the industrial towns in your former East or the slums of inner city UK. Perhaps the Thai's are a tad more honest in their approach to statistics. It certainly appears they are a little more honest in acknowledgment of their problems.

I agree predominantly because it was not the point of discussion in my opinion. Yes we in Europe (many not all) have a strong tradition in martial violence. But I grew up in Germany with a peaceful and humanistic education. I speak about me not about my whole country and not about the whole history of my country. May be that ist another thread. Let's talk about the current situation in Thailand. I think its too simple to take the stats of murders as a fault. There is a lot of truth in it. Thai are not more honest than other people. Especially in lying they are no amatuers too. Bangkok is not full of angels. Let me say it so.

First of all I believe in what I see and trust my experiences.

1.)

In 98' when I first came to Siam on my third day my nose was broken by a hand of a drunk Thai man in the Silom Street at 5pm without a reason when I was walking around. I drink no alcohol it just happened to me. May be an accident?

2.)

A few years ago I divorced from my Thai wife and now I have land and house left in a small village well closed and a friend of mine sometimes takes care of it. The furniture was stolen completely. The air condition was torn out. Even the water pump installed on my land disappeared. May be an accident?

3.)

We live now in a small town (some say a village). Carabao came here a few months ago. 3 young men died at 9 pm on the market. They were drunk and killed each other with guns. No reason and the media kept silent about this "event". May be an accident?

4.) I drive a car and we are traveling sometimes around of Thailand. Until now I saw 9 deaths on the streets of Thailand. In Germany I didn't see one death in decades. May be an accident?

There are a lot of accidents. May be these are really accidents. But it happened and it happened to me. There will be diversities of interpretation, in my opinion the cause is:

- No control of yourself

- No respect of each other

- A huge alcohol problem

- A lack of good education on all levels

But once again. I don't care. I have to accept it because I am not in a position to change something here and I am not here for that. I like it quiet and simple and Thailand gives me the opportunity to do it in my way. They let me and I let them.

jumbo,

thank u for the stats u gave here. The difference is not so big. It gives me a confirmation that my country (Germany) is one of the most safe and quiet countries in the world now. Why is it so? I think it depends on the education level. We are well educated in a humanistic tradition. The actual education level in Thailand - I would suppose u agree - is not from its best. Education gives u the possibility to know, to reflect, to differentiate and at least to control yourself. These things have to be improved and to be corrected in the future. There are a lot of other stuff and hidden matters but I think it's enough for now.

I beg to disagree. It might play a small part, I guess. But I think inequality plays an important role in a society. Most things begin from there. ? Culture?

When u improve the education on all levels u will reduce social inequality, right?

Hello, dear friends of Siam!

I came from Germany 7 years ago to make a normal/quiet live here in Thailand. After some "errors" I'm now very satisfied with my living in Thailand. I think I will die here. Its a great place to live and enjoy. I discovered that forum long time ago and decided now to register because its just a great community with a huge international attendance, fascinating!

jumbo,

thank u for the stats u gave here. The difference is not so big. It gives me a confirmation that my country (Germany) is one of the most safe and quiet countries in the world now. Why is it so? I think it depends on the education level. We are well educated in a humanistic tradition. The actual education level in Thailand - I would suppose u agree - is not from its best. Education gives u the possibility to know, to reflect, to differentiate and at least to control yourself. These things have to be improved and to be corrected in the future. There are a lot of other stuff and hidden matters but I think it's enough for now.

Hello,

my experience of living in Thailand has shown me often that two words are very important at the beginning of a relationship.

I used to discuss two topics in the beginning.

So I have to discuss "self-control" and "respect", two things I love indeed when it comes to two persons who want to live together.

My English is not so good so please don't condemn me for that.

1.) ควบคุม

2.) ความเคารพ

3.) กรุณา เราวันนี้ไม่ลืมควบคุมและความเคารพ ใช่ไหมครับ

1.) koappkumm (self-control)

2.) kwaamkaoropp (respect)

3.) gharunaa rao wannie mai luehm koappkumm laeh kwaamkaoropp krab chai mai? (please let's not forget self-control and respect today o.k.?)

Hello,

this is my first posting. I agree with nostrel's opinion and facts. After 7 years living in Thailand I think in the same way. Even so I do not live in an urban region its just a small provincial village. There are 2 sites of Thailand. The commercial dreaming site and the real site which cannot be sold very well.

So there is nothing exciting, I have to live with these numbers of a horrific and divided society. I am not here to moralize I just live here because in the first row its cheap and warm. So what? Its good to discuss "Daily Danger and daily violence in this country". But for me as a realistic man I can handle that through cautious and controlled behavior outside of my home. Its a pity for sure but I am not a dreamer. I like it warm and cheap, thats it. I f I want more things like peace, safety, cultural history and educated people to discuss the things are going around I would leave Thailand and go home.