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11 hours ago, JSixpack said:

 

 

Or if someone has lost an argument because he had no rational argument in the first place, he (around here anyway) tends to be a sore loser and resorts to personal attacks--and lying, of course. That's how childish we are, supposedly grown men. Fortunately we have forum rules against doing exactly that. Or unfortunately as it prevents me from having a lot more fun too. Yet if I have to abide by the forum rules, others should have to as well. Am I right or am I right?

I think you lost the argument old chap, any "neutral" person can see that Harbour Mall isn't performing well. Am I right or am I right.

Any update when it will be opening?

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What's wrong with being an old pensioner living in a cheap room on Soi Buakhao?

I know a very nice place on Soi B. that rents for 5,000 a month, and is over the best restaurant on Soi B. Not everyone needs a palace to live in.

Nice place for 5,000 Baht a month, are you joking. I could never see the point of living in Thailand in a shoe box apartment, feeling I have to get out everyday.

Everyone is different, many people buy a house or a condo to make it their home, there are several posters who live in 20m Baht and upwards, houses, better than paying 100 to 120,000 Baht a month rent, especially if you are going to be here a long time.

The majority of the rent don't buy brigade live in small units, not many would be paying over 50,000 a month rent.

I believe Lalana is quite nice, condos that overlook the swimming pool are more sought after.

Can't comment on Park Lane.

On ‎22‎/‎02‎/‎2017 at 7:37 PM, Naam said:

compared to 1973 it's peak time.

I wouldn't have thought there would have been a high season in 1973

It's easy picking the posters that are flogging real estate.

For those of us who don't have a vested interest in talking up Pattaya and Thailand, it has without doubt been the quietest high season ever.

One of the reasons the Thai government waived their visa fees.

22 minutes ago, abab said:

 

 

Yes, I think she didn't get the message. Because of the millions that she hides that will allow her a happy life even without her husband, she should really really be quiet !

 

 

 

I think you will find she probably had no idea what her husband was up to.

She would be gutted because her lifestyle as she knew it has just finished, even if she get's to keep the four houses.

I thought it was reported that the work above the tunnel would be finished sometime in February, the tunnel itself will take a bit longer.

19 minutes ago, sandgroper2 said:

Not got.

Probably because you aren't James Nunn8, or you might be!!!!!!

I was there last month with a group of 10.

We made a booking, food was great and we didn't have to wait too long for it to be served.

I much prefer Cabbages and Condoms to somewhere like Bruno's.

I was told that it is just as easy to buy a new one at the Samsung shop than get it repaired.

There is a SB furniture store just before the big Tesco Lotus.

I think you just met the Pattaya forums resident optimist, JSixpack

On ‎2‎/‎01‎/‎2017 at 0:08 AM, tazly said:

oh yeah, well I paid $100 trillion (think Austin Powers) for my VT unit...and it was an even emptier shell...unfinished, no walls, no ceilings, no floors, no building...but it must have been the greatest deal because peoples told me so, and I paid more and got less.....now I can brag about how rich I am to everyone....forget doing a CMA or a proper appraisal...

Well I didn't think he was bragging, just giving some information to posters on the forum.

Some people are wealthy, obviously you aren't, get over it.

3 hours ago, sharecropper said:

Does anyone know what the asking prices in View Talay 7 are nowadays? I see what seem to be mostly holidaying Russians entering and exiting the place and wonder what proportion of units have been sold in there?

I will be there on Tuesday and let you know.

I'm paying virtually the same as I was paying three years ago. Great location and great views if your condo is on the Jomtien side.

1 minute ago, Cockwomble said:

JT's personal crusade against Baht Bus Drivers, where he has put his life on the line on a number of occasions to save a few baht is not to be sniffed at. He is a legend just for that, but also among all the mickey taking he has made significant contributions to the forum. I think JT should have been nominated again this year.

 

 

Couldn't agree more. For a Yank he is a pretty good bloke. In the Pattaya forum he has contributed as much as anyone. I hope he will be eligible for next year.

I would just like to express my disappointment that JSixpack our resident optimist of the Pattaya forum hasn't garnered more than three votes this year.

Tough luck JS, and you will have my vote for next year!!!!

I have enjoyed reading many posts from Nam over the years,  although he did lose me when he bragged about driving 200kms an hour in his sports car along Sukhumvit Rd.

I would find two or three condos you like, start low, probably 50% of the asking price and work up from there. Play one off against each other.

I would also suggest you have a look what you could get in View Talay one or two in Jomtien before you make an offer at Novana. Condos in Novana seem awfully small.

I've bought most of my white goods from Home Works Power Buy. But you can save quite a bit shopping around even between Power Buy stores. I've snagged several bargains by comparing prices. I would suggest Power Buy Homework, Home Pro and then the big Power Buy shop in Pattaya Klang. I went to Numchai once and didn't like it. I bought a new 55 inch TV a couple of weeks ago and saved about 5,000 Baht.

20 minutes ago, ffaarraanngg said:

How did you come up with these numbers? ..... and how many new buyers annually are there? 

 

But if there is excess property on the market this is good for keeping prices down. developers aren't going bankrupt, prices aren't skyrocketing or crashing ... hence it would seems supply and demand is in sync.

 

 

 

And how would one know if prices weren't crashing. Houses on the Darkside are very hard sell. In my village of 70 odd houses, four years ago, nothing was for sale or rent, now probably 15% is for sale or rent.

Only posters with a vested interest in property prices spruik the property is great line, everyone else knows the real story.

2 hours ago, Guderian said:

The obvious place to look is the King Power duty free emporium on Sukhumvit, they stock all sorts of fancy (and very expensive) whiskeys and cognacs, including my favourite, Remy Martin Louis XIII.

Can I buy from there without leaving the country, I was under the impression it was duty free only??

On ‎16‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 4:41 PM, JSixpack said:

 

Love the continuing assertion of economic prescience shown in that classic milestone of prophecy:

 

Central World is going to fail, just like The Avenues. Anyone stupid enough to build a place that charges Bangkok prices in a small tourist resort town deserves to go bankrupt.

     --thaibeachlovers, on 2009-05-29 19:01:26

 

So, seems to be merely a cantankerous inability to accept the truth--and an obsessive but futile hunt for "signs" that old prophecy is finally gon' come true. A hammer always just finds nails, after all.

 

Now the Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET), digesting the news that the entire city of Pattaya had died once again (2009: Pattaya Is Dead Dead Dead), must have reeled to learn that a prominent TVF economic expert had prophesied an upcoming 5-billion-baht loss to CPN. Would the selloff in CPN shares bring down the entire market with it?

 

Well . . . no.

 

CPN shares ended up the following week at 9.40, up 7% from the previous week! Ironically, if our doomsters themselves had faced reality, ended the silly chants, and invested a million baht in CPN shares then, they'd be worth over 4 million by the end of 2015. 'Twould end the need to whinge about bar fine increases & room rate increases on Soi Buakhao, right?

 

So, no, of course the stalls in front of CentralFestival don't mean a thing w/ regard to Central's economic success. In fact the North Pattaya Big C had stalls even during Pattaya's heyday when the quality tourists, i.e., the "naughty mongers," the economic powerhouses behind Pattaya's now-vanished prosperity, the great jobs creators, the golden eggs layers, were in force--before they were "put off" and all left for the paradise of Cambodia, leaving the ruins behind. Stalls do attract shoppers, including tourists. Thais like them; different culture.

 

I can affirm from a few recent visits that the stalls don't cause any difficulty whatsoever in getting into CentralFestival and that there were a remarkable number of holograms looking like shoppers in there--in fact, the most I've ever seen at this time of year. The next TVF economic rule invoked will be the Looking Not Buying rule. :) It presupposes there must be lines at every cashier in every shop at all times, to satisfy the My Eyeballs At A Random Interval rule. But the latter rule isn't met at any mall. Could there be something goin' on our TVF economists don't know about? I mean, according to NanLaew,

 

 

OMG. Fools! More folly! Don't they know? Don't they read?

 

Well, maybe they do. I think what must be happening is that the CEOs read these TVF doom threads and think, "What idiots. This means Pattaya's going uphill; good time to build and invest!" :)

 

 

An invocation of the TVF No Change rule! (Yeah after all these I know them all well.) Change just discombobulates our OAPs especially.

 

The stalls haven't invaded. They're welcome, bringing in more revenue, and creating some jobs. Who knows how long they'll stay.

 

Our economists do hold that boutique, rather high-end shops should be as crowded as restaurants and cinemas. :) Total ignorance.

 

Rather than completely useless subjective measures, use the standard. You see, whenever you visit, you don't notice any significant shops vacant. If you had, you'd have immediately seized upon it as a Sign! As there are 370 shops in the mall, you'd need to find 37 closed up to make the credible case of impending doom you long for. In one of the richest, continually successful (since the 1950s) suburban malls in the USA, a few shops are always vacant. I think none remains of the original shops at the opening. Nor in that mall during the week do you see many shoppers. No shoppers have ever been seen in CentralFestival.

 

And you might look at some financial reports for CPN such as here: http://cpn.listedcompany.com/financial_highlights.html to find the shock (the stalls!!!) that actually CPN is doing well for itself recently:

 

Period				Y/E '15	Q3 '16
as of				31/12/2015	30/09/2016
ROA(%)				10.37	11.23
ROE(%)				18.12	19.03
Net Profit Margin(%)				29.6	31.3

You can find further actual numbers on the detailed reports and find some positive CPN Pattaya figures. Share price, BTW, despite the doom of Pattaya, is up 16% this years. :) Yeah I know: Enron! Gotta love TVF economics. Just In Case Fallacy

 

Over the last 20 years we've heard every possible variation on basically the same kinds of bashes followed by predictions, or confirmations, of a farang exodus and inevitable doom. All these death proclamations and prophecies of doom mean is that prophet is himself disappointed and wishes something would die—as is admitted here, after vainly anticipating for 7 years the rich justice to be wreaked on the "stupid" by the fulfillment of the Prophecy of 2009:

 

I say I hope Central fails, because if it does, no other big company will build in Pattaya.
     —thaibeachlovers, 2016-01-04 05:15

 

Wishin' and hopin'

And thinkin' and prayin' . . .

 

Ain't that an old song by Dusty Springfield? So the search for the evidence--the evidence that must be there somewhere--continues. Enjoy!

 

I don't want to rain on your parade, but no doubt you would be aware that in 2014 Central bought or opened businesses in Indonesia, Vietnam and Malaysia, hence the jump in the 2016 figures. Indeed, Central are diversifying overseas in an effort to offset the moribund Thailand economy.

And in more localised news, my favourite bar in the  Rompho bar complex will be closing in about 3 months due to a lack of customers. And several more to follow methinks.

CNN was ok,  BBC was also covering the result.

Wow, who would have thought. Watched events unfurl on CNN, they were most reluctant to call the result for Trump.

Let's just hope he doesn't carry through on many of his policies.