Oishi

www.sms.in.th

ask for K. Chutima

Easy setup, no need to install anything on your servers - also have access to SMS via satelitte if needed.

Cheap and okay service.

3G is NOT commercially available in Thailand yet.

The coupe caused the National Telecommunication Commission (NTC) to suspend developing new policies and granting licenses. The NTC board has yet to conclude if it could proceed with preparing licensing regulations for the new 3G license. Allthough they recently supported the issuing of licenses in Thailand it is not only the NTC board that can grant these licenses because the setup in Thailand is, that 3G is to be considered a broadcasting technology also - therefor a second licens for broadcasting have to be obtained from the NBC

Given the current and past problems within the Thai telecom sector the issuing of licenses will not happen before a elected government is in place.

The issuing of licenses will probaly be exactly the same system as seen anywhere else - via auctions.

Having said that, TOT does have a "license" for 3G.

This would make them very attractive for operators like AIS, DTAC or True, they could, instead of paying a lot of money for a licenses and the whole infrastructure setup, team up with TOT and lease airtime on their network instead.

Surfed the net.....seems they really want you to upload anything through WAP portals only. Guess my next phone is not going to be a Samsung !

On my old O2, could manage what ever i wanted to, and also the Nokia.

Yes sadly most Samsung phones only supports OTA services (Over the air) for games and applications. Dont know why, makes you wonder if they are designing phones for end-users or operators?

Still a very good phone though!

If you havent found a wap service yet here is a free Thai version:

http://www.yozzo.com/wapuploader/

1. browse to the file on your computer and UPLOAD

2. go to wap.yozzo.com on your phone (wap or web)

3. click on the link WAP up and download

4. Look at the computer screen where you uploaded the file it will give you an id nr. XXXXX

5. on the phone put in the id nr from the computer it will download the file to your Samsung and should ask a couple of security questions and finally - do you want to install this file?

Now the second part of Samsung is that they might require both the .jar AND the .jad file

The .jad acts as a remote telling the phone to open the .jar.

While on other phones eg. Nokia and Sony Ericsson you can choose to just upload the .jar file.

Also I am not sure about the chess game isent it a windows mobile application?

We had a small snake in our kitchen this morning. Just remember it being grey in color with hints of light green.

It was quite young.

Anyway idea what kind?

Didn't have a large head or anything.

This was out in Don Muang. Security removed it and threw it over the fence.

Probaly a Golden Tree Snake.

Venomous but not seriously not even for kids.

Often seen in Bangkok or in and around houses.

Hunts and eats lizzards.

Most common colour structure is green, black and beige.

Really fast.

Up to 80 MB on a Thai server you get a link you can send to your friend and a link where you can delete the file afterwards. Zip, Audio, Pictures and Videos ares supported: www.yozzo.com/hothost and its FREE!

You dont mention what Samsung model it is, but many Samsung have a "problem" in regards of tranfering files from and to the phone. Most Samsung models are build to receive files OTA = Over the air = via SMS or WAP. Even if you use a USB solution your mobile phone may not accept incoming files (Again depends on the model) If you cant use the USB solution or find that you often cant find your second small Simcar try this one: https://zyb.com/

Avoid PP,too much trouble.

The Embassy staff is busy with Cambodians who apply for a ThaiVisa and do not want to give Westerners a helping hand.

Thank you "Visarunner"

Question:

I searched but haven’t found - or maybe I am just not using the Google/Thaivisa the right way, but I am searching for information about Phnom Pehn in regards of extending a NON B.

Most subjects are about either Penang, Singapore or border runs at Aranyaprathet.

Why isn’t there any info about Phnom Pehn and the Thai embassy there?

Is it closed? No Visa service? Too much trouble?

I have to extend my NON B and Penang isn’t just my cup of tea, Singapore isn’t the place according to several topics and replies.

I been to Suan Plu they could and did extend my NON B last time, this time they couldn’t, same documents different officer, but he said I should visit and apply at an embassy outside Thailand and there wouldn’t be any problem at Suan Plu next time (3 months later)

Been here more than a year, doing business, having WP and Thai staff, tech company, paid and paying tax both personal and company, all documents are in order, but still have to renew every 3 month. So I thought I would give Phnom Pehn a try? Any replies, ideas, knowledge is welcome.

I seem to remember another government coup, but in Cambodia, in which Mr. Shinawat was involved. His company Shinawatra Cambodia has, I believe, a monopoly on that country's telecommunications.

Maybe in Laos not in Cambodia. Their are 3 operators in Cambodia.

Marketleader is MobiTel

Second is CamShin (250.000 subscribers)

Third is Samart Communication (Part of Samart Thailand) will be changed to Telekom Malaysia International soon.

Their combined average monthly revenues per user are US$9 to $11 (Bt337 to Bt412).

There were around 1.2 million mobile-phone users in Cambodia last year, up from 900,000 in 2004.

Camshin entered the market via Shin Satelitte around 10 years ago.

Keep in mind the infastructure back then wasent up and running, demanding a huge investment in setting up antennas, laying cables and so on...this wasent an investment giving Thaksin money quickly, but a long time investment. He might however have sold some stakes in the company and being a sole investor he could have decided to keep the money himself instead of using them in the company.

Aran Garden 2 Hotel. 230 baht for fan rooms with squat toilets, 370 baht for air-con and a Western loo.

thanks, i guess not many overniters for aranyaprethet

Indochina Hotel approx 3 km from the border.

http://indochina-hotel.th66.com/

600 baht. Pool, restaurant.

Sonthi is really doing a first class job. What I still cannot come to grips with is this inactive posts business. Just fire them and be done with it. And make sure that they are never ever in a position in the future to wield their crooked agenda's.

you can not until you find something he did very wrong, as well as you can not in the west.

but you can move him to a positon where he sorts the photocopys of the farang passports accourding to the alphabet or make him officer of the immigration in ban nok.

Really love Sonthi cleaning all the thaksin junk out....

True!

But remember "normal rules" doesn’t necessary apply during a coupe.

But having said that, it is as you guys say a better idea since the loss of face is larger than if he was just to get sacked. He will still have to face colleagues that where employees before. Also you will still be able to monitor activities from this person. If he was sacked you would have to use a larger scale operation to monitor him. Like someone said cleaning out the followers is as cleaning out cancer cells. Easier if you know where the cells are.

--> Mais non ! Blue is the color of the Queen. And a regiment of queen's guards took part.

The ribbons used, are as cclub75 writes, probably picked based on the colours of The King and Queen.

Units seem to be from the Royal Thai Army Special Forces in Lopburi.

The ribbons can serve 2 purposes.

One: Showing the civilians that the coupe supports the Thai monarchy.

Secondly: Since the possible “enemy” isn’t from another country, but could come from forces within the same territory, the ribbons might prevent friendly fire

…just a thought!

A quote from the Thailand elite website:

Thailand Elite Members are automatically entitled to a five-year multiple entry visa that is valid for 90 days each trip and can be extended without having to leave the country as many times as needed. This allows a virtually unlimited length of stay within Thailand. Members can apply for extensions at any approved location throughout the country and overseas. For most cases, with all the proper documentation available, processing will normally take only one day

Yes and the quote "• Be allowed to stay in Thailand in accordance with the immigration laws or any related laws of Thailand " is also from The ThaiLand Elite website.

And the laws will change as of 1. October.

I know common sense doesnt apply on many issues in Thailand, but lets say you have 500 members of the Thailand Elite Card who have paid between 1 or 2 million baht for membership.

And you have a few thousands that have investet several millions in condos or similar on a investment visa. Why should the law favour those on the Thai Elite card?

Do not live in Sakaew , but do live very close in Aranyaprathet or actually about 10k out of town. There are several farang's out this way around 15 or so but I beleive I am the only one with a little blond wife from Seattle. Have a great Thai day.

Aran is Sakaeo district. Became part of Sakeo in 1992 or 1993 cant remember.

As a result of the recent proposed changes in Visa rules for long term stay in Thailand which will affect the under 50, non married, that consequently may generate more interest in the Thai Elite card, I would like to suggest an opportunity for ThaiVisa.com

Khun Bob I dont get it?

Why should their be a bigger demand for Thai Elite card on grounds of new visa regulation?

Holders of The Thai Elite card is NOT above any laws in Thailand. What they get is a small plast card, a few friends...very few friends and their own booth at the immigration check in at the airport...oh yes and their own carpet too.

Seems Thaivisa has tried before to enter into a CC business, but the setup was to huge for even Thaivisa to enter. Sadly becuase many of the other offers that came along with the idea was good.

So in terms of a large community like this entering some sort of arrangements is a good idea and I give you that. But I dont get why it should be because of new laws?

But here are the facts from Thai Elite...very Elite card

Notice the bold text.

• Not be a Thai citizen

• Not a hold a permanent residence certificate

• Not have been declared bankrupt

• Not have been sentenced to a term of imprisonment of more than six months (irrespective of whether or not the applicant was actually imprisoned)

• Not have been declared a person unsound of mind, incompetent or quasi incompetent

• Be allowed to stay in Thailand in accordance with the immigration laws or any related laws of Thailand

A thought; adding the same number to all mobile phone nos does NOT increase the total nos avaliable does it? It remains exactly the same...

Therefore I presume that down the line there will be NEW first nos rather than the 8....?

Cheers!

Yes and Yes!

If you have 30 million mobile phone numbers and you add a 8 in front of them all and close the "old" number without 8 in front it will still only be 30 million numbers.

Example if I had number 013322122 (9 digits) today with AIS and from next month they would close my number and it would instead be 08133221122 (10 digits) then you have gained nothing

And you are right with the 8 being the first off a series of numbers (1-9) coming up. If not someone at NTC will probaly be looking for a new job - not in accounting though

According to the Alien Occupational Control Division of the Department of Employment, the number of expatriates holding work permits in Bangkok totalled 64,352 as of May 2006, up 16.1% year-on-year. The total number of expats with work permits in Bangkok increased by 8,933 over the last 12 months.

Peanuts. In 1996. there were 164,000 expats on working visas.

You sure about this figure ? Is it work permit holders, or "B visas" (what you call "working visa") ?

Hi cclub75,

I dunno, I am just the messenger of this news report from Bangkok Post today. But a small research on the topic shows this report from The Nation 13 september.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/09/13...s_30013460.html

"The number of permits rose from 47,107 at the end of 2004 to 54,607 at the end of last year.

During this year's first half, this figure grew another 5 per cent, to 57,343."

And here is the CB Richard Ellis press release

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/7/prweb414736.htm

Seems a few expat got lost from report to report.

One can only guess why The Post would print this today...one week after a similar story in The Nation and almost a month since the pressrelease.

Lobbywork? Sure why not all 3 involved might loose customers due to new 1. october regulations.

Hello all, Just curious if there has been any changes made to Thailand mobile phone numbers/ country calling code. I have a couple of friends living in Bangkok and Phuket and recently the last couple of times I have received text messages from these friends a different number has been displayed on my phone. (I am in oz) These friends do not know each other but the same number appears and when I have texted/called them back there has been no response. The number that is appearing is +44779780602, then in the text message my friends numbers are appearing before their actual message. A little strange, just curious if anyone is experiencing the same?

Thanks

Hi Miamia,

It could be that your friends are using Skype SMS or other Web/GPRS SMS service provider. Now that was a nice collection of words - try too say quickly that after a couple of beers.

The country code is UK and they might have bought a Skype out service with SMS options. Then when writing to you, they tried not to confuse you and started the texting with there own normal mobile number...but clearly the idea didnt work

Let`s face it.

Meanwhile, let´s take a hypothetical Thai business owner, who, after giving it some thought and common sense, may look at this from a different perspective, perhaps one similar to this:

“Ok, let´s see here, I am told that of 10 Million tourists a year bringing us money - helping to pay our salaries and livelihood - a handful keeps coming back more often than others. (How many? Does anyone really know?. Shall we guess? Ok, for example, if a total of 5000 people a year were doing the visa run thing, that´s a whopping 0.05%!! One (!) of every 2000 visitors! If it were double, 10.000 “visa runners”, that´s one out of 1000 visitors!

Our hypothetical business owner continues to ponder: I am further told that from that handful - namely one out of every 2000 people - again a handful (what percentage of the 10 Million?) teaches us and our kids English while here. Which is the kind of help we very much need in order to be able to hold our own in the future, competing with world markets and other tourist destinations which are constantly increasing marketing budgets to attract tourists away from us.

I am told that out of this fraction of total arrivals (what percentage of 10 Million? One out of 20.000? Less, more? ), some (how many? What percentage of 10 Million?) have been teaching us English while unable to show certain pieces of paper that bureaucrats say they should have.

Now my kingdoms bureaucracy has singled out that situation involving a mere handful of people, to justify new rules to affect 10 Million visitors a year and impacting the livelihood of some 60 Million Thais or so if arrivals are dropping as a result of these changes

Our Thai business owner keeps wondering...besides spending patterns, how will the new rules affect peoples ability to even get to Thailand in the future?

After all, airlines are responsible for passengers they bring. Anyone denied entry to the country has to be taken care of by the airline. With the new rules, how can an airline be sure a passenger will be allowed into the country?

What will happen when immigration decides that a passenger has already had their alloted share of days for this six month period? What if it is a matter of one day over? Two days?

What happens in cases where entry is denied based on day count? Will the airline take the passenger back home? Or will the ticket agent or travel agent go through passports and add up days at the office or counter before deciding if they can sell a ticket to Thailand?

The impact could be considerable. But the ego doesn´t care about that. One of its strongest characteristics seems to be that it does not engage the brain (if any) before acting. It simply does not consider the fact that actions have consequences.

(Is that why bureaucratic jobs do not always seem to attract only the wisest and most intelligent?)

“What a mess...” our Thai business owner thinks. “...all because of some bruised egos....”

Well of course, that Thai business owner is hypothetical. Very much so. Obviously.

A more real one would simply say “mai pen rai” and get on with life...

Perhaps we should do the same.

Stats regarding arrivals in Thailand

For the hypothetical Thai business owner

Some other posters where asking for stats, to try and find what impact the new regulation might have, here are some stats that may help the research or not.

Year 2005:

Total visitors 2005:

11.516.936

4.365.933 First time visitors -24.49% (2004)

7.151.003 Re-visitors (+ 21.85% more than 2004)

917.941 Where business related. -5.98% (2004)

Average age of the visitor:

36.69 years old.

Most come from the 25-34 years of age group, followed by the 35-44 years of age group. Third spot goes to the 45-54 years of age group.

Occupation of visitors

Professionals:

2.574.816 (+ 19.86% more than in 2004)

Admin.:

1.410.887 (-0.75)

Commercial:

3.277.805 (+24.04)

Labourers:

1.603.299 (-24.66)

Retired:

219.181 (-6.06)

Average length of stay:

8. 10 days

Average Expenditure/person/day

4.150,00 Baht

Revenue/Million/Baht

450.000 (+17.08)

Source of Data: Immigration Bureau, Police Department.

Remark: Overseas Thai Residents are not included

http://www2.tat.or.th/stat/web/static_download.php?Rpt=ita

The rising number of expatriates in Thailand is boosting the demand for serviced apartments, especially in the mid-priced segment, according to the real estate consulting firm CB Richard Ellis (CBRE).

According to the Alien Occupational Control Division of the Department of Employment, the number of expatriates holding work permits in Bangkok totalled 64,352 as of May 2006, up 16.1% year-on-year. The total number of expats with work permits in Bangkok increased by 8,933 over the last 12 months.

Theerathorn Prapunpong, associate director of residential leasing services for CB Richard Ellis, said most expats tended to rent rather than buy property in Bangkok because Thailand would be only a temporary posting for two to three years.

"The largest growth has been in the Japanese community, which now accounts for 22% of foreigners with work permits in Bangkok," he said.

Mr Theerathorn said many of the new expats working in Bangkok were in mid-management or technical positions with mid-range housing allowances, or no allowance in the case of locally hired expatriate workers.

"Therefore, the bulk of expatriate demand will be for the mid-range property market," he said.

During the last 12 months, 463 apartment and 2,393 condominium units were contracted in Bangkok's central business district (CBD), which is the most popular location.

CBRE expects that 850 new apartments and 13,100 condo units will be constructed in the central areas in next two years. It said that 30-40% of the supply of new expat-oriented condominiums had been bought by investors on a buy-to-rent basis.

In Sukhumvit, the area around sois 24 to 39 is becoming increasingly popular, especially for Japanese tenants. Proximity to the BTS is important and developments within one kilometre of the Phrom Phong BTS station are the best performers.

The Lumphini area, which includes Wireless Road, Soi Langsuan and Soi Tonson, is also attractive because of its central location, which is close to many grade-A office buildings and attracts tenants who want to live near to their workplaces. The Sathorn area remains popular, up to the Narathiwat junction.

a bit sick of hearing from the self-righteous.

regardless of why a person might choose a 30 stamp over a real visa,

here are some people affected.

"sam" - pays rent for a bar, supports a girlfriend, spends a lot of money in thaialnd.

"Joe" - pays rent to thai landlord for a shop and a house, supports a thai wife and 2 kids, spends a lot of money in thailand.

"Bill" - holidays for 4 months, rents an aprtment, supports a thai girlfriend, spends a lot of money in thailand.

"Tom" - a teacher, rents an apartment, supports a thai girlfriend, educates thai children, spends a lot of money in thailand, (and for those who understand, his various employers are unable or unwilling to provide a work permit)

these are just a few i know personally.

NOT affected:

the foreigner with a company and work permit via the company who is doing land/house development,

driving up prices and often contributing to the deteriorating amenity of samui in particular.

i do not believe that this silly stuff will in any increase tax receipts nor keep out undesirables.

It may be true, as one post suggested, that Thais are getting sick of so many foreigners and

now only want a limited number of wealthy ones.

But, as from the above, it will affect an awful lot of Thai landlords and girlfriends and even the 7-11.

Agree with you

See my other post:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=...st&p=891508

If Sam, Bill, Bob and Bo pays tax from revenue gahtered from the bar they should have the option to stay here or at least get a few more weeks to clean their act.

What bothers me is also the staff at those bars or restaurants - no bar - no job - no money.

This dosent just effect those guys but Thai guys and girls to and the family they support.

In other more civil countries there would be a lot of bureaucratic writing going on before concluding the deportaitionof people.

I wonder just how busy the official Thailand is going to be the next couple of weeks, month taking care overstay, deportation, rounding up the "criminals". finding out what to do with al does bars and restaurants what is legal what isnt. All this at the same time opening a new airport and controlling an election...coupe de etate and AIS deals, Dtac, Carrefour...

Makes you wonder what the insurgents is fighting for in the South? I mean Malaysia and Indonesia is more open than Thailand is at the moment.

I dont have many foreigners in my "space" and I do avoid it. But I understand these peoples frustration.

Someone wrote it was American to think and change the world - No buddy I am sorry you dont have a patent on that - and where does American people originate from?

It is still legal to give critics in this country and to other countries beoynd your own.

In Thailand it has been encouraged lately.

And living by the law is fine I agree to do that, but it dosent mean you just shut your eyes and mouth and brain for what seems wrong.

If you are guest in another peoples home and see something is wrong do you just sit there and look?

Laws are laws but it dosent mean they cant change - the world changes and so does the laws - mostly to the benefit of most people, sometimes not. You overcome and you adapt or you make your voices heard. That is democracy. It is also dmeocracy that people will write posts where they say - yeah fine get rid of those bums. But what makes this annoying is the timeline of the process and the bottomline of the process, that it not only affect those who havent paid tax, it will affect the Thais living and supporting familes from those establishments or diving school or what have you.

Killing mosquitos with canons

Here are the facts of an absurd/weird and frustrating experience with a Bangkok Airways flight:

PG 658 16.00 - 21.00hrs* on September 9th, 2006 from:

Bangkok - Hangzhou/China; 4 hours flying...* 1 hour time-difference.

1. Plane leaves 30 minutes late, due to incoming aircraft, at 16.30hrs.

2. smooth flight; just 38 passengers on an Airbus A320 (some 200 seats ?)of 'Siem Reap Airways' plane; 2 engines. (just 30 passengers waiting in Hangzhou to return to BKK; according to aircraft-staff)

3. moving map shows at a certain moment, after 2.30 hours of flying, we have another 1.30 hours to go. We were just passing Guangzhou and Shenzhen area/China. So far so good.

4. A few minutes later I noticed that map shows: 2.30 hours flying left....distance (forgot) also changed; told my wife that there must be an error in the map-system...

Shortly after, the map stops and they put on a movie; (flying back over Laos, map was put on again)

5. After another 1 hour (!!!) the captain/staff states that there are serious technical problems and "we have to return to Bangkok"....mind you: we WERE already flying back without ANYBODY noticing we turned.

After more than 5 flying hours we safely landed (very, very smooth) in Bangkok again.

6. Nobody noticed any 'problems' during flight but I realize that doesn't mean anything; serious problems can be there without passengers noticing them.

BUT: if the problems were so serious, WHY fly another 2.30 hours without landing on the nearest airport (BKK Airways also fly to Shenzhen, Hong Kong and Guilin in China area!) and WITH JUST 1.30 hours to fly to destination Hangzhou???

WHAT would Bangkok Airways have done with 200 passengers on board instead of 38?

The most frustrating is, in situations like this, that NOBODY gives a TRUE and FACTUAL explanation as to WHY the decision was made to fly back.

RESULTS?:

1.We were re-booked on a Thai flight at 01.45AM to Shanghai (some 200 kms from Hangzhou) and passengers were put on a bus to Hangzhou;

the other option was:

2. hotel and next morning BKK-Shenzhen and Shenzhen to Hangzhou (arriving in the afternoon, following day)

Most passengers choose option 1.

3. Total 9 hours of flying and 24 hours 'on the way' without sleep.

Thank you Bangkok Airways but not so!

LaoPo

I understand your frustration. And communication is clearly the best option in a case like this, but depending on the "problem" they might have had some work to do in the office. One guy/girl flying and one in contact with nearest airports. Getting out the new flightpatern, follow procedures and so on. But still I give you the point that the communication with the passengers, should have been clear and prompt. Showing a movie just isnt the best idea.

People have become much more aware of flying and any thing out of the ordinary will raise questions, so to comfort all the communaction with the passengers should be a must - naturally, after procedures that are more important. But from your schedule of the incident I would say they had the time to inform passengers or at least first officer.

As to the new route, it depends on the problem. If it is a serious problem they will fly a different path, always close to an airport or landing strip. It is NOT a question about cheaper spareparts.

And it dosent matter if there where 3 people on board or 200 the procedures are the same.

And remember - and I understand your frustration, and so on - the pilot and the captain also wants to live.

Who knows, it might have been a serious problem, dumping fuel and so on, but the crew manage to overcome the problem - hey good guys.

But not informing passengers will defently do harm to some - they might not use that company anymore...they might be more scared next time they are flying.

So I do give you the point that information is vital, be it in midair or ground after returning to BKK. But some companies just dont get it.

Hi!

I have tried to find an answer to my question, some came close but not exactly so I will try to ask here.

Standard info:

I have been here 1 year on my Non Immigrant B Visa multiple entry.

I have a work permit.

I am Danish

I have paid tax and social fund in Thailand 1 year

I am a shareholder of a Thai software business and I am the managing director in that business.

We have 4 Thai employees and no other foreigners.

The company has paid Tax and VAT for 1 year now and is operating is business daily.

I am NOT looking for retirement visa.

Details:

I recently came back from a business trip to Phnom Penh to find that my Non B multi visa had expired. The immigration officer in the airport instead gave me a tourist visa 30 day. (I had a stamp for 90 days already from a business trip to Singapore).

Now first thing was to go to check about the work permit and they said they could extend it until 26 September and wait for the renewal of my visa.

My question:

I need to extend or get a new multi-entry Non B visa and how to do that?

Can I obtain this at the Immigration Bureau Office at Suan Plu when providing all the necessary documents?

Or do I really have to fly out of the country again and go to a Thai embassy or consulate in KL, Singapore, Phnom Penh or similar?

I don’t really care if I get my NON B and only 90 days and have to renew every 90 days as long as I can pursue my business quickly.

I am still flying in and out of Thailand almost every 2-3 month on business trips in the region so no problem. Just happy if I can stay here, go to Suan Plu and pursue my business again and renew every 90 days.

Thank you

If i get this correct, you have or had a NON B multi entry and it has expired?

You went abroad and back on a business trip. In the airport they told you that you NON B multi has expired and gave you a 30 day turist stamp?

Was your NON B multi, relly one year? Or did you have to report or come and go every 90 days?

If so, (report or come and go) then you must have had a stamp in your pasport from other trips extending the expire date of your visa or they would have told you when "cheking out" of Thailand, that you visa had expired and you had overstay. So you must have had a stamp extending the visa expire date.

And as you say they (Must be Ministry of Labour) told you to fix the visa and come back and get your WP fixed to and they even gave you a couple of days to do so.

My guess is you should get a extension from immigration without going abroad.

Cant see any thing wrong here, you pay tax, have a WP everything seems okay except that your visa expired but you had a stamp.

And I dont see any chance off overstay if that is what you are worried about.

You have stamps to support your stay - well until the new laws are in order, but you should have your papers ready before that.

http://www.thaivisa.com/295.0.html

http://www.thaivisa.com/298.0.html

With all the changes in the immigration rules, I was wondering if the Elite Card would be a good option. All those hassles and formalities don't make me happy and I am looking for a quick and easy solution and don't mind paying a premium fee for a long term solution.

Is Thailand Elite all about just paying the membership fee and you get the special entry visa immediately or do you need to have blue blood or be a celebrity?

How long does it take to process?

Can I do it while in Thailand?

The following are the qualifications for personal membership. The applicant must:

• Not be a Thai citizen

• Not a hold a permanent residence certificate

• Not have been declared bankrupt

• Not have been sentenced to a term of imprisonment of more than six months (irrespective of whether or not the applicant was actually imprisoned)

• Not have been declared a person unsound of mind, incompetent or quasi incompetent

• Be allowed to stay in Thailand in accordance with the immigration laws or any related laws of Thailand

Oh it is great to be 50+ year old male with a retirement visa living correctly in the LOS.

Where as before many on here looked down on us so called oldies and said we losers and only here for the young girls because we couldn't get a lady over seas. How the world changers.

Most not all of us, are nothing like that, we respect the laws of this country, times are a changing for you so called young men. Do it the right way and all will be well. If not move on to where the rules are more laxed.

I understand there will be some problems for some, but in your heart of hearts, you knew you were bending the rules as you stepped on the buses that took you over the borders.

I wish you all luck in getting over your problems

Well what have you done in your life, except getting old?

Tell me from your heart of hearts, what sounds better when you are 78 sitting together with other old guys/girls telling stories from your life?

1. Hey when I was young I took chances, lived my life, saw the world, went to Thailand and fell in love with a country.

or

2. I moved from my country so i could get old with other old people and live by the book, the law and I did everything right.

Do it the right way and all will be well. If not move on to where the rules are more laxed.

Ehh...that is what they did before...

When they stepped on those busses they where NOT bending the law, read the posting the law is coming to effect as of 1 October.