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  1. 1. Each Consulate or area will have specific forms to use. If Denver says to use download from Washington that is the form to use. UK forms would not be accepted.

    3. The US Embassy is the required certification point for US income. You will need supporting papers (OPM pay slips or such) to show immigration but the notarized statement (fill in blanks) from Embassy is required.

    #1 is correct. Use the form you get from the Thai Embassy's Washington DC website.

    Anything after the first sentence of #3 is not, I repeat NOT correct.

    It is true; for US citizens the US Embassy IS the certification point. It is however completely false, that ANY documentation is required to get the notarized letter from the Embassy. Having gotten one last week before Christmas I can say this with certainty. You fill out a blank form letter stating your income, the embassy worker asks you if the information is correct and true and they notarize it. In the US the burden is put upon the person if they provide false information. I believe lopburi3 is confusing the US and UK Embassy requirements. The UK DOES us a 'vetting process', which being an American I am uninterested in. IF you have proof that you receive an income from the US, bring it to the embassy when you go, but in nearly 3 years and over 5 proof of income letters from the US Embassy I have been asked or required to show it 0 times. You will be 'raped' to the tune of nearly 1200 baht to get the notarized letter from our embassy, but just add it to the cost of living in the glorious "Land 'O Thais"

    Good luck,

    ท้อด แดเนียลส์: กรุงเทพมหานคร

    Tod Daniels; Krung Thep Mahanakhon

  2. Hi,

    I sent you a message via TV website, but don't know if the system is working. I'd also used it twice to contact "lopburi3" but got no response then either.

    The Denver Consulate definitely uses the from from the Washington DC Thai Embassy's site. In the blank at the top where it asks for number of entries just write the word "Multiple". For reason, you can either leave it blank, or write relocation, it matters not.

    Send the completed form, your passport, a 2x2 photo, and 125US in a check or money order to;

    Royal Thai Consulate General

    1123 Auraria Parkway

    Suite 200

    Denver, CO 80204

    If you put a postage prepaid & pre-addressed envelope inside the one you use to send your app, they'll mail it out the same day.

    I may be mistaken, but believe the person who issues visa's is named Pat. She's easy to deal with.

    Once you're here you'll need to go to the US Embassy and fill out a blank paper which states your income is from the US and is XXX dollars a month. There is no proof needed, it's the honor system, as are many things in the US. They will notarize the paper for about 1200baht and it's what you need for any time you have to show "certified income" from outside the Kingdom.

    Tracking a recent Non-O Visa a friend of mine just received from Denver. The FedEx envelope arrived at 11:14am, and was out of their office, on its way back to him at 3:40pm that same day.

    The Denver Consulate is a great avenue for people in the US, I wouldn't post about it here much. There is no telling when they may change their scrutiny of applications.

    In an aside, two friends just received their Non-O visas from Hull in the UK. They are American, but it matters not your nationality, nor where you get your visa issued. At the end of the day it only matters that you are allowed in to the glorious "Land 'O Thais".

    Good luck,

    ท้อด แดเนียลส์: กรุงเทพมหานคร

    Tod Daniels; Krung Thep Mahanakhon

  3. While this thread is somehwat interesting up to a point, it does little to answer girlx's the OP of the thread and her question about acquiring a Non-Immigrant Type O Multi Entry Visa.

    While many people MAY choose to whine about consulates 'bending the rules', while stating they too use 'friendly consulates', the 'do as I say not as I do' advice rings somewhat shallow. The Thai Consulates abroad are what they are, they do what they do, and that's that.

    Outside of the immediate vicinity of the glorious "Land 'O Thais", meaning outside S/E Asia, the consulates are far more user friendly. You can split hairs all you want about ethics. All that matters is at the end of the day you have the correct visa in your passport so the wonderful munchkins at the entrance to the glorious "Land 'O Thais" amusement park let you in. They look at you with a bored expression, stare at your passport like it is the first time they've ever seen one, stand idly by a few seconds or minutes depending on their mood, then stamp you in, and you are on your way.

    While I clearly sense the paranoia which has swept the board with the new enforcement of the visa laws, I don't see too many actually constructive posts to her in actually acquiring the visa she asked about. Should she have a work permit? It is hardly the job of the posters on this forum to be Immigration Police and TELL her what she HAS to do. It's as are all things in this oh-so nonsensical, wacky, wonderful place; Up 2 Her.

    From what I can glean in reading the consensus on this thread I suggest you immediately do the following;

    1) Run out & start an Amity Company

    2) Quickly retain a high price lawyer

    3) But first find & marry a thai guy

    IF she follows that evidently she's got all her bases covered BUT wait she still has not gotten her Non-Immigrant Visa which is what she asked about, hmmm go figure . .. ...

    Shortly after we'd read an article on the last page of the Nation News about how she shot herself twice in the head, with her hands tied behind her back & a plastic bag taped over her head. Oh my, yet another tragic farang suicide. ..

    "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, in the glorious "Land 'O Thais" everyone is the real Wizard".*

    *paraphrased quote from the Wizard of Oz used without permission

    Getting the visa you seek is not nearly as hard as you might think. It does require the use of first world intelligence. Unfortunately after any length of time here, that can be compromised by having to dummy yourself down to a third world mentality. Correction I mean a “developing” third world mentality, sorry for the inaccuracy.

    Good Luck,

    ท้อด แดเนียลส์: กรุงเทพมหานคร

    Tod Daniels; Krung Thep Mahanakhon

  4. The issuing of non-o visas has been discussed on this forum ad infinitum with both sides of the argument presented. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. It is all too easy to acquire a Non-O visa from the UK, AU & the US. Whether they, as one respondent posted; "turn a blind eye" to the qualifications or not is irrelevant. They ARE thai consulates, they DO issue VALID visas, and the visas they issue ARE accepted w/out question upon entry into the glorious "Land 'O Thais"..

    I am sure everyone who's lived or stayed here any length of time will understand the huge difference between the letter, the spirit and the interpretation of the laws here in the "Land 'O Thais".

    IF you are able to make the trip to the US, or the UK it is not a problem to get a Non-O multi-entry visa. The only real impediment which has been recently implemented is you must post mark your application in the country you are applying in (ie; US postmark for a US consulate, UK postmark for the Hull consulate).

    Too many people fret & worry about the letter of the law & its interpretation, when it all reality, if you are not applying for a visa in S/E Asia, meaning applying at almost ANY consulate in a first world country, it matters not one little bit.

    It is mostly here in S/E Asia close to the glorious "Land 'O Thais" where the consulates & embassies are not 'user friendly'. Even inside the kingdom they seem to hold people to a standard which varies by consulate, by employees of that consulate as well as on a given day & the mood of the employee you get the pleasure to deal with.

    As an aside; I would only explore the "consult a lawyer" route, AFTER I had exhausted every other means, NOT before. Sunbelt is good for advice & has helped a LOT of people. Call them after the holiday season when they are back in the swing of things. I have found them forthcoming with their knowledge with even their thai staff having a fairly good grasp of engrish.

    As you can see from the last few posts, it is NOT as hard to get a Non-O Multi Entry Visa as some would have you believe.

    Good luck

    ท้อด แดเนียลส์: กรุงเทพมหานคร

    Tod Daniels; Krung Thep Mahanakhon

  5. I agree that a poll on the TV forum probably isn't a clear cross section of most people living & staying here in the glorious "Land 'O Thais". This forum, for the most part, seems to have better read, better informed, albeit a somewhat paranoid slant to some of the posts. That being said, it is as good as it gets for any for information about the nonsensical (thai way) of doing things in the "Land 'O Thais".

    I will state; I'm unaffected by the visa changes, (on my third non-o visa). I am somewhat sympathetic to those who are affected, but. .. Well,,, it IS the thai people’s country. If they choose to enforce what has been a previously exploited (and totally condoned exploitation by the powers that be) 'loophole' in their system, I guess they can. At least they DID give us some warning, did provide us dubious, contradictory information, do enforce it with typical thai (Borg) mentality. "Resistance is futile, you will never be assimilated. We are thai." It may be, as are most things in this xenophobic to the extreme, oh-so racist, “developing” third world country, a pathetic knee-jerk reaction to events that thrust the glorious "Land 'O Thais" onto the world stage and into the spotlight in a bad way, but it is said & done....for now.

    Getting a non-o visa in the US, UK or AU is far from difficult nor is it fraught with peril. Consulates in those countries use a, how shall we say this tactfully; "less than careful" vetting process in the issuing of visas. I know the rumor is these countries will change their ways, but so far it is just that, a rumor. Not one consulate I spoke to (3 in as many countries, as recently as last week) said they had any information from the CNS about changes in their visa issuing process. It seems they are autonomously run entities in their interpretation of the rules. Also I might add dear readers, a visa issued by any thai consulate be it by your home country or not is honored here w/out question upon entry in the glorious "Land 'O Thais", (or has been for me & many people I know).

    That said a non-o visa IS more costly than doing endless 30 day border runs, as it usually entails a visit back to your country of origin if your qualifications are not quite up to the letter of the law as interpreted by Thai Consulates/Embassies in neighboring S/E Asian countries. It does however provide 90 trouble free days (as trouble free as any days spent inside the Kingdom can be) and a total of 15 months allowable stay if you hit the border just before it expires.

    In other news…

    Living between Soi Nana & Soi Cowboy as I do; I am in an interesting location to gauge the mood of the sex-pats/sex tourists. In a completely unofficial and totally skewed poll I took; not one single person was worried, nor affected by the changes. The ones that make the glorious "Land 'O Thais" their home have non-b or non-o long stay visas, the ones who stay longer than 30 days get tourist visas. In fact I couldn't find even one person who was worried, or the least bit concerned with any changes in the interpretation/enforcement of visa laws. Issan is in no danger of needing government intervention at any time soon as the billions of baht money train seems to be still on its tracks. This should be a great comfort to the CNS and any financial budget constraints for a needed N/E Thailand bail out.

    Again, in looking at the poll results, which are nearly as skewed as the poll I took, it appears the 'weeding out' of perpetual tourists is having the desired effect. Get legal (more legal than you were) or leave the glorious "Land 'O Thais", seems to be the thai (Borg) collective's consensus at this time.

    ท้อด แดเนียลส์: กรุงเทพมหานคร

    Tod Daniels; Krung Thep Mahanakhon

  6. When I moved out here I was 120+KG. On a 188 centimeter height (6'2") it was still 'chunky' (read; I was fat). I am now at about 88KG. My cholosterol is low for my age group, my blood pressure got back into line once I was here, no acid reflux, and no meds for any of those problems in over a year.

    In the two years I lived here I've eaten 'farang' food maybe three times, I avoid it like the plague. I eat Thai food off the street, in road side shops every single day. Everything from hot soy milk, fresh fruit, fried noodles, meats, bugs included, anything except shellfish.

    The many Thai families I know seem to eat constantly, yet they are not overweight by any stretch of the term. Most of the fat people I see are farang tourists; First Worlders vacationing here.

    I have noticed the younger generation of Bangkokian Thai's tending towards being chunkier but believe it is the easy access to fast food and them being lazy big city dwellers.

    In the villages I frequent there are next to no over weight people. I travel quite a bit (Chiang Mai to Hat Yai, Kanchanaburi to Chantaburi), and all places in between. I just don't see that many fat Thais. Then again I don't see many Hi-So Thai's either, just everyday folk eeking out a living.

    I have read rants on the forum about how the Thai's cook food, how much oil they use, how much this or that and how bad it is. I believe genetics plays a HUGE role in how a person metabolizes food, stores fat, etc.

    I will continue to eat only Thai food, and see if this 3rd year here is any different. .. ...

  7. Youre right that a Non-Immigrant Multy Entry Type O Visa issued before Oct 1 by Hull is old news, but...

    The story below however IS fact. I have seen the Non-Immigrant Type O Visa stamp in his passport.

    My friend left Thailand, got the exit stamp, went to the Philippines, sent his passport by DHL to another friend in the US. That person in turn sent it to a 'friendly' Consulate along with the application, photo, fee and a pre-addressed postage paid envelope his US address. The consulate issued the visa, mailed the passport to the US address, and his friend DHL'd the passport back to the Philippines. Total turn around time 8 days.

    Total Cost;

    R/T to the Philippines

    Hotel for 9 days

    Visa application fee

    2 DHL Worldwide Fees.

    Peace of mind for having another 15 months in LOS w/just 90 day runs to the border, PRICELESS

    Again, some of the US Consulates are not concerned about qualifications of the visa they issue, some are, I would check w/them first. When I went back to the US & got my 3rd Non-O this year, they said if I wanted it stamped as O-A Long Stay they would do it. I am under 50 & thought I 'might' have problems reporting to Thai Immigrations here in Bangkok after the first 90 days, so I just took another "O"

    As far as my friend's application; they weren't concerned he was officially still "in" the Philippines, as he had no exit stamp. Their only concern was the envelope containing the passport originated from and returned to a US address.

    While this is not officially 'on topic', as the initial poster asked about Hull, I would say it is good evidence that at least some Consulates still have what is known as a 'soft touch' when it comes to Visa applications, types, and the qualifications needed to have them issued.

    Good Luck,

    ท้อด แดเนียลส์: กรุงเทพมหานคร

    Tod Daniels; Krung Thep Mahanakhon

  8. From the experience my friend had in Hull in July; they weren't all that critical of any paperwork besides the visa application form, the photo & of course the money.

    Here in Asia at any Thai Embassy/Consulate he fails to meet the requirements needed to obtain a Non-Immigrant Type O visa. However in Hull he received it without a question or a problem.

    Another friend, recently returned to LOS from the UK has three 60 day, back to back Tourist Visas in his passport. Again, no questions, just the form, photo & money.

    If you have the paperwork to justify your application, good on you; if you don't I wouldn't worry excessively. It looks like they have the bar set quite low and use a soft touch as to qualifications for various visas.

    Both people were in the UK (their home country), sent their passports & application via post, and received them back in less than 3 days.

  9. Hello,

    After living in Bangkok between Soi Cowboy & NEP on Sukhumvit for 20 months, I have decided, much to the consternation of most sex-pats, this area is far from the "center of the known universe". To me it is not.

    I am 47, retired, and after spending a week in Chiang Mai decided a slower pace of life would be a better 'fit' for my minimal needs.

    Browsing some real estate places online, and speaking to several more while I was in Chiang Mai a week ago, it seems that housing is not a difficult proposition. Unfortunately, well located housing seems to be a horse of a different color. Everything I looked at, spoke to people about was either San-Sai, Hang-Dong Road, Doi Saket, etc, or many kilometers from the city itself.

    I am looking for a 2 or 3 bedroom house, fenced yard (for my 2 cats here from America), a covered place to park my car, a European (farang) kitchen, air-con in at least the main bedroom, ability to get UBC and a phone line to get ADSL internet. I would like to pay no more than ฿10,000 a month.

    My question is; Are there houses available in Chiang Mai, inside Highway 11 on the east and north, no further out than Choloprathan Road/CMU/CHX on the west & what is labeled the Super-highway 1141 on the south? While that area encompasses quite a lot with some of it more than a short walk into the heart of the city, I think it may serve my needs.

    I realize, in all probability others have posted the same or similar requests, but any and all help would be appreciated. I return to Chiang Mai the beginning of January, with hopes of securing a place for a February move.

    thanx in advance,

    ท้อด แดเนียลส์: กรุงเทพมหานคร

    Tod Daniels; Krung Thep Mahanakhon

  10. It is a sad fact that more altercations, problems, and disagreements arise here in the proverbial Land 'O Smiles between farangs & thais because of alcohol than any other reason.

    Without the real facts, which may never come out, the story is anecdotal of how fast a disagreement over something trivial can escalate into something all to serious.

    Given that most tuk-tuk, taxi and moto operators are from the lower class of society, usually poorly educated, etc it is easy to see how a situation as outlined in the article could go south quickly.

    FACE is everything to a thai, they will become rabid animals if they perceive they have lost it, going to extraordinary means to recover it.

    While I have not been here as long as some of the illustrious posters on this forum, I can say in the 2 years I've unfortunately lived between Soi Nana & Soi Cowboy, the only time I've seen problems w/thais & farangs escalate into blows, or worse, was due to alcohol induced idiocy on the farangs part. Now granted I live in the 'steamier' part of Bangkok, and may be exposed to the vices of farangs more than most.

    That said, in all the time here I have never been accosted, ripped off, or gotten into altercations w/any of the taxi, tuk-tuk, or moto drivers I have come into contact with. If you don't have your wits about you, well, you deserve what happens.

    As one poster put it, and as a t-shirt I had made up says, "This AIN'T Kansas Toto", learn the ropes, follow a few common courtesies, & your trip here will be as problem free as any visit to a shit-hole, piss-ant, poor third world country can be.

    It is interesting to see this incident used as farang bashing (which given the welsh, scotts, irish, aussie, kiwi, or anyone not from the US and their version of english may have its merits), or thai bashing (given experiences people have had). However the moral of the story is negotiate the fare FIRST, don't be too drunk to know what is going on around you, and if you are well, som-nom-na.

  11. In answer a question posed by someone on this endless thread.

    The overseas Thai Embassys at least in the United States are still issuing Non-Immigrant Type O visas w/pretty much 'rubber stamp' regularity.

    I just returned from the US and a visit to an Honorary Royal Thai Consualte w/my third Non-Imm Type O multi-entry visa. A visa run every 90 days is okay by me.

    I am not able to meet the requirements here in Asia for a Non-Imm visa; being too young for a retirement visa, not being married to or supporting a thai national, and not working. In the US the 'bar' is a LOT lower. I had it stamped into my passport w/an application form, a photo and $125 dollars. The Honorary Consualtes of which there are 13 in varoius states are known for a 'softer touch' in issuing the visas.

    When I spoke to the staff at the Consualte (post coup), they said they'd received no information concerning more stringent guidelines in the issuing of visas. Pretty much it is up to each Consulate to determine what if any requirements you need to meet.

    Several Consulates are also stamping the visas into passports FedEx'd to them, although like in Hull England the postmark must originate in the country of the Consulate.

    take care,

    tod daniels

    Krung Thep

  12. Here are some I had made up at MBK;

    I am NOT Rude, I am American (I just don't give a shit about you)

    Up 2 U

    U tink 2 mut

    Thai Gurlz (take 2 they're small)

    It's ALWAYS about the money

    This AIN'T Kansas Toto.

    You don't pay for sex, you pay them to leave after.

    and my all time favorite;

    post-26360-1159423070_thumb.jpg

    I have a bunch of thai language shirts w/proverbs on them which get good reactions, but the english language shirts are beyond most thais comprehensive skills especially any w/acerbic humor.

    I am working on;

    September 19th, 2006

    Where were U

    4 the coup?

    Ideas for shirts are always appreciated, lol...

    tod in Krung Thep

  13. Just got back into the Kingdom from renewing my Non-Immigrant Type O multiple entry visa for another year. I've been here 15 months on the first one, and couldn't get an extension as I don't meet the requirements.

    Outside Asia the Thai Embassy's are known for a LOT softer touch, and the 'bar' is much lower when issuing visas.

    They would have stamped me w/an OA longstay visa if I'da wanted them to, although couldn't speculate what problems I'd have at Suan Phlu when I went to report after 90 days, seeing as I'm only 47.

    I played it safe, got the non-imm-O for another year.

    I'm set for 15 more months, and visa runs every 90 days won't kill me.

    take care na,

    tod-daniels

    Krung Thep

  14. I SEE THE FRENZY CONTINUES TODAY AS WELL :o

    The Bangkok Post and the Forbes articles misquoted the term VOA for US/UK/EU nationalities. A visa is NOT required for citizens from those countries enterting the Kingdom . On arrival you are issued a 30 day permission to stay stamp, which is being called a VOA. Seeing as there is no visa stamped into your passport it's not that at all, it's more a "Permitted To Stay Until" stamp. US/UK/EU are VISA EXEMPT entry countries.

    Tourist Visa's, either 30 or 60 day stays, can be had easily in any Asian country bordering Thailand, even w/multiple re-entrys (albeit they are not free, nor is the multiple re-entry). I even believe at Don Muang there is a counter where you can fill out a Tourist Visa application before getting into the line at immigrations, although I could be wrong.

    Those same valid Tourist Visas (30 or 60 day) can be extended at Thai Immigrations twice, first for 30 days, then again for an additional 15 days (granted at a cost of 1900B per extension). In theory that would give someone on a 60 Day Tourist Visa a total stay in the Kingdom of 105 days before they'd have to even leave the Kingdom. No border run, no nothing. Once the 105 days have expired you then would have to leave the Kingdom, apply for another Tourist Visa, and do the procedure again.

    There has been no mention of curtailing or limiting the number of VALID Tourist Visas in a person's passport, so you should still be able to get them as easily as you can now, and have pages of them in your passport.

    The "loophole" on the countries who are visa exempt and issued 30 day "Permitted To Stay" stamps has had the law in place for a while to curtail chronic offenders the endless entries, but not been inforced.

    If people switched to VALID 30 or 60 Day Tourist Visas, (again; not to be confused w/Visa Exempt "Permitted to Stay" stamps) I think it would be a work around to the coming changes.

    Again, while the new enforcement doesn't affect me I am sympathetic to the many people who's lives are affected.

    It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.

    If anyone can offer a valid explanation why what I outlined concerning Tourist Visas won't work, please let me know, as I perused the articles closely. I saw nothing mentioned about any other type of Visa aside from the misquoted VOA. (which as I've said are Visa Exempt 30 day "Permitted to Stay" stamps for most "First Worlders").

    take care,

    tod in Krung Thep

  15. Don't confuse a Tourist VISA which is valid for stays of 30 or 60 days and applied for BEFORE you come to the Kingdom in your home country's Thai embassy and a PERMISSION TO STAY stamp issued to the list of countries posted earlier. They are NOT the same. There is NO VISA issued to US, UK, EU nationals when they enter Thailand, the passport is stamped w/a Permisson to stay until stamp.

    It is NOT a VOA, as there is no Visa stamped into the book. Some countries can apply for VOA, but the US, UK, and EU are not in that group.

    If you read the articles (which are as ambiguously written like all things Thai), it is only the 30 day permission to stay stamps which seem to be limited to 3 in a row, then a 90 day break, then another 3 in a row.

    Tourist VISAS, (even Non-Immigrant Multiple Re-entry Type O or B) are easily available from US, EU, UK Thai Embassy's.

    Granted the people working on the 30 day permission to stay stamps will be put under pressure to get "legal", (another ambiguous term here in LOS), but few people who work in the teaching, or private industry will be affected, nor will most tourists, who's stays here are less than 90 days.

    This opinion is that of the author, no expressed or implied warranty, your mileage may vary, DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS AT HOME...

    ท็อดด์ แดเนียลส์: กรุงเทพมหานคร

    Todd Daniels; Krung Thep Mahanakhon

  16. Hi,

    I have two Somali Cats. I brought them w/me from the US when I moved here over a year ago. I found a fairly competent (this is Thailand after all) vet in my area (Asoke/Sukhumvit) for their minor health needs.

    I have yet to find a good groomer, and any help would be appreciated. They are not long hair cats, more medium length, but fluffy.

    They spend a great deal of time out in my yard and are getting a little matted and a lot dingy from the ever present Bangkok dirt, debris, pollution.

    If anyone knows a semi-competent groomer in my area or in greater BKK, let me know.

    Thanx,

    ท็อดด์ แดเนียลส์: กรุงเทพมหานคร

    Todd Daniels; Krung Thep Mahanakhon

  17. Hi,

    My situation was the reverse, as I shipped my two Somali Cats TO BKK from the US. I used Thai Air Freight from LAX to BKK. They were great & I have a contact person who works the freight ramp in LAX if you need it.

    They had the usual manditory rabies, health certificates, and correct INTERNATIONAL carrier size and arrived no worse for the wear.

    I had made a couple trips out to the airport here, spoken to as well as greased the correct peoples palms (gotta love Thailands refreshing 'in your face' corruption). The vet in charge of animal importation signed off on the paperwork at midnite, and I picked up the cats as they arrived in the live animal holding area at 1AM. There was no "up to them" quarantine period or anything. I actually got them easier than getting them outta the US.

    This link is to the CDC which issues guidelines about importation of pets and live animals;

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dq/animal.htm

    Good Luck

    ท็อดด์ แดเนียลส์: กรุงเทพมหานคร

    Todd Daniels; Krung Thep Mahanakhon

  18. Hi,

    I lurk on these forums a lot, and this one about the Thai Language has been helpful in getting me started down the long perilous, winding road to reading/speaking Thai.

    I've been here just over a year; learned a small number of "must know phrases", then slowly started to decipher Thai. I decided to make some T-Shirts which in America would be of the "tongue in cheek" or "acerbic humor" variety. Not the ever popular; "I met YOUR wife at Nana", "Thai Gurls (take two they're small)", or "Bar Gurls (collect them all, trade them w/your friends)" shirts. (Which were all good sellers, btw). These new ones I decided to make in the Thai language but. . ..

    So far the results have been less than stellar.

    I did Rich but Cheap (Stingy) as;

    รวย

    แต่

    ขี้เหนียว

    That wasn't too bad, although most Thais will comment on it, I don't think it gets the same results as it would in the US. Perhaps the word ขี้เหนียว has too negative a connotation.

    The Black Heart not Good Heart as;

    ใจดำ

    ไม่

    ใจดี

    This shirt was a disaster, w/Thais asking Why? Why so serious? Maybe that shoulda been;

    ใจร้าย instead of ใจดำ for a more tongue in cheek attitude. The original shirt is now a dust cloth retired from wearing after one foray.

    My favorite was; White Skin, NOT Farang, Understand? Which I'd had done as;

    ผิวขาว

    ไม่ใช่ฝรั่ง

    เข้าใจไหม

    The print shop changed the "NOT Farang" text I'd brought, saying what they wrote meant "not call", but it still panned completely w/Thais either not reading it, not understanding it or it not making any sense.

    As an aside;

    I know there have been all too many discussions about the term ฝรั่ง. For me it is something I take as indifferent, disrespectful, borderline derogatory. It is the Thais painting w/too broad a brush or being too lazy to make the distinction between the foreign races here, which in and of itself is foolish seeing as they have a word for every country's people; be it categorized by skin/hair color, size, etc. I know if I referred to Thais as Small Dark Asians (w/a Lao-ish or Burma-ish inflection or connotation), most would be quick to take offense. I choose to feel that way to the term ฝรั่ง, up to me.

    Obviously my grasp of the Thai language; it's intricacies, subtleness, inuendos and applications are limited at best. Hopefully they will improve w/time. Thankfully a Thai friend stopped me from making the ever popular American shirt;

    กินขี้แล้วก็จุติ

    That would have been a slow motion train wreck, I think. Then again, I don't know if you can just string Thai words together and have them make sense, as their sentence/word order is not the same as ภาษาอังกฤษ. The multi-billion baht Thai Humor T-Shirt business for tourists will hafta wait a while, lol.

    I do want to thank the many contributors of this forum for their web linkz, posts and conversation.

    I will learn this language and eventually be able to communicate w/the teeming masses.

    Any good Thai Language t-shirt ideas are always appreciated, lol.

    take care na,

    tod in Krung Thep

  19. Hi,

    I lurk on this forum a lot, but haven't found the information I need.

    Here goes; I moved here to LOS from US last year. I got my Non-Immigrant Type O multiple re-entry visa at an honorary Thai Consulate in the US w/out any documentation, no nothing, just a photo and 100US.

    That visa is due to expire end of June. I know I can get 3 more months by 'running for the border' just before it expires. I called Sunbelt Asia, and they were less than helpful, gave me conflicting information on different occasions, and basically said getting another non-imm-O visa here in Asia was out. They offered; Perth, New Delhi or one other place as viable options.

    I am too young to apply for a retirement visa (47), As far as current documentation I have; letters from my embassy saying I live here & have an income from the US. I have a Thai Driver's License, BUT am not supporting a thai national (at this moment, subject to change w/out notice, lol).

    Any idea how I might get another non-imm-O w/out flying back to the US where the honorary consulate will stamp another year into my passport for 100US?

    On another note, I am undergoing treatment for my spine at Bumrungrad, I noticed they had a Visa Service Center. Does anyone know if its possible to get my non-imm-O extended for medical reasons for a year? I don't go back to the hospital until late next week. In calling/speaking to them; they were less than helpful. Then again, mai-cow-jai-thai, soo it could be me being less than helpful and acting typically american, (talk too strong, make strong sound, give eye contact, etc, lol).

    Any info would be appreciated, as I'm trying NOT to go back to the US unless it's the only (read easiest) way to get another years non-imm-O visa.

    Sorry this is long, hope it made sense,

    take care na,

    tod in Krung Thep

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