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45 minutes ago, schultzlivgthai said:

Wow, I thought the Burmese would be on pins and needles for fear of being deported back to what’s going on in their country. With their own people being slaughtered and raped you’d think they would be grateful for a place to earn a living and have peace. 

1. I wouldn't buy into any reporting of the likes we get here, regarding the truth about the nationality of any individual, until a picture of their passport is shown. They have been known to call Thai citizens, Tai Yai because of their ethnicity and thus avoid calling them nasty Thai people.
2. Assuming it's accurate that they are actually Burmese nationals, we're talking about teens here... since when have teens had any sense to appreciate or be grateful for much of anything, especially teens of this ilk?

That'll get the applications for the elite visa soaring to new records!
Just think, you can be assured that everyone will know you're pure because you've been investigated. What a wonderful feeling!
Just don't give them any reason to want to throw some random charges at you! Like criticize ANYTHING about Thailand, in Thailand, relating to Thailand, or even around Thailand - like Asia for that matter. As has been noted, a prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich, if he wanted to....

22 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

tarnish the image of Thai tourism.

🤣This has become a meme....

6 hours ago, ronster said:

If he was wanted on such serious charges by the FBI then how did he get out of the country and into Thailand ?? 

I could be wrong, but I'd suspect that he wasn't wanted by the FBI until after he left the country. He was on bail. I don't think the FBI cares about every Tom, Dick, and Harry (or insert your favorite immigrant names) who is on bail. But they do care about bail-jumpers who leave the country.

3 minutes ago, Presnock said:

oops, sorry if I offended you because I hate it when I do make that mistake.  Be happy, be careful, be safe.

No offense taken. Was just confused a bit with the all caps and apparently being thought that I was irritated.
Thanks 🙂

19 hours ago, Presnock said:

I am truly sorry if I offended anyone by saying "immigrant-stained" blood as it was not meant in any derogatory manner.  I am my family have nothing but immigrant ancestors.  I am proud to be an American and I find that too many people take too many comments on this forum too seriously - that is my opinion and I usually tell folks this it is my opinion only - as my wife and daughter telll me  - CHILL please. As

for where folks all came from - I notice that no matter how educated experts are when making statements about what happened millenia ago, as time goes on those statements are becoming less and less correct.  Who knows where we all came from - no human being on this planet knows the answer to that (in my opinion).  

Thanks for the clarification. But, "CHILL"?? Why the LOUD demand, when I wasn't hot about anything to begin with?
Yes, who knows where on earth we all came from, that was part of my point. That being, it is not exactly known from where and when the American Indians came to the land, but it has been found for certain that there were others before them. They were not first (not "First Nations" as erroneously called up in Canada), nor are they the indigenous people of the land. They were immigrants.

1 hour ago, Presnock said:

3 hours ago, radiochaser said:

I'm not an immigrant.  I was born on the continent known as U.S. of A.   As were my ancestors going back a long time. 

well unless one of your ancestors was a native born AMERICAN INDIAN as we call them, then you are still have some immigrant stained blood running through your veins.

"Immigrant stained blood"? Why is having immigrant blood a stain??? How about immigrant blessed blood 😄 Immigrants, from day one, made what has been one of the most significant nations in world history. And American Indians weren't the first on the land that now makes up the U.S.A. either. DNA and archeological research has found some fascinating things about this. And, not surprisingly, it doesn't fit the narrative that the public education system is pushing so hard these days. And if they truly believed their own rhetoric, they'd give their university and high school lands over to the American Indians, since so many of these ideologically twisted folks say that the schools that they themselves are administering, are on stolen land! lol What a bunch of nincompoop hypocrites.

By the way, radiochaser. I believe we've met a good number of years ago. I can't quite remember the circumstances, but your username here is very unique and very familiar 🙂  I wonder if there's a way to direct message on here... I'll have to check....

6 hours ago, webfact said:

arrested on suspicion of theft and potential assault of a local woman.

Never heard of anyone being arrested or charged with "potential assault". That's a new one.

6 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

The kicker in this case is a thug. 

No disagreement in that he behaved like a thug. In my experience and reading, "thug" has normally referenced a criminal type, especially who is part of a group or gang. That's why I referred to the punks in this report as thugs and referred to the Swiss guy simply as an idiot. But yes, he was behaving thuggish for sure.

13 hours ago, Jonathan Swift said:

Thai people actually getting arrested for crimes against foreigners. How many of you complainers does this prove wrong? Doesn't matter because you're not the sort that ever admits to being wrong, that would spoil the fun of complaining. 

Definitely agree that there is a ridiculous amount of complaining that goes on in this forum. It gets downright toxic far too often. In this case, Thais being arrested for what could essentially amount to attempted murder, shouldn't be anything in particular to be touting as something so special that someone actually got arrested. I think people equate things like an idiot kicking a lady in the back and leaving a bit of a red mark (which could easily be left by a slight scuffing of the fabric against the skin, especially a lady's softer more sensitive skin) and having the aggressor's face and business paraded all over the place as worthy of complaining to a case against when thugs like these may get arrested, but the town will likely hardly care and they won't have their places of work or businesses publicized and there won't be protests in the streets to have them put away for a good long time, even though they actually put lives in danger over a situation similar to the Swiss guy - someone wanted someone to move. The Thais endangered human lives. The Swiss guy committed a simple assault with hardly any danger more than maybe the possibility of breaking a fingernail and an ego. The outcome between the two are hardly comparable for the level of the results among the public and media.
Of course, that's just one example. But I think that's the gist of why so many make harshly negative remarks on this sort of thing. So, in this case, I would say it is more justified. Whereas very often, I agree that the complaining and racist sorts of remarks get ridiculous. Your rant is justified on many threads in this forum, but in this thread, I think you more or less went the same route as those complainers.

13 hours ago, NemoH said:

The victims honked n got out of their cars to confront their attackers? 

Either the victims were drunk n foolhardy or they were simply arrogant n looking for a fight. 🤣🤣 so the victims lost n now claim to be victimised… 

I will have more sympathy if the victims had remained in their car n were attacked for no reason. 

"Phi and Shi then got out of their SUV and asked Rattaphum and their friends to move."
That equates to confronting?
Drunk and foolhardy or arrogant? Not sure how you come to that conclusion. How about they needed to get somewhere and they saw that the car ahead of them could move, but maybe its occupants were playing water fights with people on the street instead? Who knows.... The two foreigners may have been perfectly polite. They may not have been polite. We don't know. But either way, being asked to move politely or rudely is not a reason for attempting to kill someone. Stabbing is a hell of a lot more serious than a many people seem to think. You imply that they had a reason to try to kill these guys. That's pretty extreme. They may have had an excuse, but nothing remotely close to a reason that anyone can possibly reasonably conclude from this article.

15 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

 

 

We know it's unethical, but it is impossible to change this system, it's in their DNA.

 

It is rotten to the core.

 

This Deputy PM, who doubles up as interior minister had decided and made his decision on the matter of the Swiss guy.

 

So, it's game over, and he has more or less announced that by saying ' Go home and don't waste your time on an appeal '

 

The Swiss guy's goose is cooked as far as ever operating that business again and whatever other restrictions are put on him depending on, and decided by the courts regarding re-entry.

 

I think we can be fairly certain phone calls by influential figures will be made to the Judge handling the case too, rightly or wrongly.

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't doubt any of that. I just can't figure out why you responded to my comment, seeming like you were saying something in contrast to it, yet there is no contrast....

On 4/13/2024 at 5:44 AM, billd766 said:

Anutin is a politician. Ethics are ethics.

 

Ethics and politicians are rarely found inhabiting the same space, in any country.

Yeah, sort of like how you know they're lying when their lips move....
But they should still be held to account as much as possible, which isn't much.

10 minutes ago, transam said:

It is not a nightmare for the aggrieved and her farangy partner....🤗

 

Any of us, in the Land of Smiles, should think first, before lashing out, especially a farangy with business interests...........

On the contrary, I think it must be a nightmare for them. But, they made their bed, so they get to sleep in it, even if it is worse than it should be.

Yes, absolutely, and even regardless of being a farang and in a foreign country, or with business interests, any person should think first before lashing out. And it's HIGHLY likely that lashing out in the form of a kick or even an offensive gesture or words is not the best way of dealing with just about anything, let alone someone resting on some stairs. That guy, and his wife, clearly think far too much of themselves, as does the doctor. There's a saying, something to the effect of "A gentle answer turns away wrath." I think there's a lot of truth in that. And I think it can equally apply to being a gentle request, not only answer. Starting off with a kick is bizarre, to say the least.

On 4/13/2024 at 2:00 AM, vinny41 said:

I don't believe it will make any difference, The judge will decided on the evidence put in front of the court

It would be impossible to believe that the Judge wouldn't be aware of the case via media and social media  but once again they will decide on the evidence put in front of the court

It doesn't matter what any of us believe. The point is that it is well understood that very powerful politician's statements are known to be very capable to bring prejudice to cases before courts. And it is internationally understood to be out of bounds.
These bureaucrats feed each other politically and that often brings real world results in terms of kickbacks, gifts, international vacations at 5 star resorts, extra padding to retirement, land deals, stock deals, children and grandchildren's admission to top private schools, universities and careers... and on and on it goes. Going against a powerful politician may possibly not bode well. And that's only that aspect of things, not to mention the psychological factors that are not easily measured. I think your view is naive in the extreme. If you ever had any experience in politics, you'd likely think differently.

On 4/13/2024 at 1:53 AM, Scouse123 said:

 

 

I hope you were not under the misguided impression that one would obtain justice in Thailand.

Of course not. The probability is low to begin with, and in this case, nonexistent.
What does that have to do with the fact that it is completely unethical?

On 4/13/2024 at 1:37 AM, transam said:

In LOS Doctors are looked up too, a man putting their foot on a lady here is also frowned upon. 

So, Lady Doctor + foot + Mr. Angry farangy = Trouble.......🤭

Yes, of course. But it still is abnormal for it to be blown so far out of proportion, even with it being a doctor, and should have been dealt with in the police station. Yeah, it would have been more expensive than usual, but the police could likely have persuaded her, but more than likely they were in fear of getting in trouble from some stupid, outsized ego, doctor. They had no balls to get it done, kowtowed to the doctor, and it became a nightmare. I'd be willing to place a wager that her ego is off the charts. The situation has become completely absurd.

5 minutes ago, transam said:

The shop lady was not a Doctor...........🤗

Yes, exactly. And showing all the more how unreasonable this has become due to influence, hatred, and corruption.

7 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

No, making a clear denunciation against bribery attempts and undue influence was quite ethical. As Fehr is attempting to appeal his visa revocation, a very strong warning that it will be useless seems helpful so that Fehr needn't waste legal fees and get his hopes up. The prosecution and judge will be constrained by law as to the penalties they may apply. And there is enough evidence for a court hearing.

 

So, wait and see.

 

 

That wasn't what was being referred to....
It was about his opinion being pronounced publicly that he should leave the country.  The headline....