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ElPatron

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  1. 3 minutes ago, Morch said:

     

    The ranting on these topics is all yours. Repeatedly. It gets worse when flaws in "argument" are pointed out. Then the insults come in.

     

    I haven't made a comment which says anything like "Taking all abroad and letting them with nothing, except crude oil spilling and other things like this is better".

     

    Troll on.

    You had no arguments to oppose my point of view, you re just complaining one more time, in fact the only thing you re doing is just trolling.. So if you have better answers to give me go for it, especially about africa and solution to prevent migration...

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    One part of the solution is to make sure there is less wars in their countries, don't you think? Maybe stop meddling with government, fomenting and funding opposition groups just because the governments in place are not the way the USA and Europe like?

    Irak? disaster, Lybia? disaster, Syria? disaster...

    For african countries, if the benefits of the exploitation of the rich soil was invested in the countries they take it from instead of giving most of it to the share holders in US and Europe it will help the african feel good at home and give them hope..

    Of course that would mean less profit for the westerners, less puppet governments, less wars by proxies...less weapon selling business

     

    otherwise go back to the topics you have real input in and let the big guys do the talking.. 

  2. 5 minutes ago, Morch said:

     

    Giving locals more money will end corruption and exploitation, says poster.

     

    Taking all back home and letting them with nothing, except crude oil spilling and other things like this is better say poster..Better take it all and let them all struggle...

    I see you re complaining of not having constructive answers, but when I give you some you re just trolling..Good job!

  3. 11 minutes ago, ddavidovsky said:

     

    Of course there is economic exploitation - that's business - but what they get from foreigners is management, which produces the crucial thing: social development. Working for foreign paymasters is galling, but at least they are getting development, discipline, and democracy. Those are needed for a country to run properly.  Apparently the way society is organised in Africa, with its tribal groupings and inability to subscribe to a social contract, is incompatible with that.

     

    So what actually is your solution for the migration problem, apart from 'let them all in'?

    Seriously, are you really from this world?

    Social development in africa? redistribution of the foreign owned companies to the local? Democracy in Africa?You 've never been to an African country obviously.

    One part of the solution is to make sure there is less wars in their countries, don't you think? Maybe stop meddling with government, fomenting and funding opposition groups just because the governments in place are not the way the USA and Europe like?

    Irak? disaster, Lybia? disaster, Syria? disaster...

    For african countries, if the benefits of the exploitation of the rich soil was invested in the countries they take it from instead of giving most of it to the share holders in US and Europe it will help the african feel good at home and give them hope..

    Of course that would mean less profit for the westerners, less puppet governments, less wars by proxies...less weapon selling business...but all what I say is probably a figment of my imagination and in fact the companies in Africa are all for the local population...nope

  4. 34 minutes ago, SgtRock said:

     

     

    You want to tell us all what war they are fleeing ?

     

    Just asking.

    So go look at a map of which countries are in western africa : Mali -> civil war, niger delata region -> ravaged by conflicts since 1950,niger, benin, all peacfule countries without civil war, abuses, ethnicity conflicts...a peacefule part of the world for sure.

    I know most of the people do not give a sh.t at Africa continent even if most of the ressources used by western countries on daily basis are stolen from them by corporation and corrupted puppet governments..but maybe it is time to go have a look if you want to understand geopolitics

  5. 14 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

    'Some women and children were on the boats'......    so what?  So were men.  Why is it worse a woman or child dies than a man?  And why even say such a thing?  Because its to give the sympathy vote... or no, poor children and pretty delicate women.   And it does not say how many women and children... you notice.... maybe 2 women and one teenager and 200 men. 

     

    Some people here seem to want open borders and allow the rest of the word to come to Europe and the UK for a better life.  Do they think that will really work?  Being strong and adopting a hard line approach is needed to send a clear message that they can not go there.  That will save the attempts to get there and save thousands of lives because no more people will be drowning at sea trying to reach those shores.

     

     

    Then maybe UK, USA and Europe should stop bombing their home countries, trying to put puppet government there because it suits their economical agenda. Lybia was a disaster, Qhaddafi warned europe about the migrants if he was removed from the government...Syria is a disaster because USA and Europe want to put a leader who will suit their views of the pipelines projects in the region while helping "moderate" rebels which plead now allegiance to Al Qaeda..... 

    If you don't want people to come to your country, stop bombing and messing with their

  6. 12 minutes ago, ddavidovsky said:

    This is not abating. There is now a real sense that the scroungers (to use i claudius' term, which is accurate, and perhaps politer than the technical term 'parasites') are descending en masse and threatening the civilised world.

     

    Where self-discipline doesn't work, discipline is necessary. That's part of civilised behaviour.  Time now for tough action - for their own good.

    Yeah let's drown them at sea, easy and it will show we are civilised! Civilised behaviour? do you really read the comments here? clearly the ones who pretend to be cilivised are the savages.

    As stated before fleeing a torn country, living in a tent, risking your life and the life of your family, is a sign they are well-off and just want to "profit" ...:saai:

     

  7. 7 minutes ago, SgtRock said:

     

    It looks as if the AfD  have already picked up that baton and are off and running with it

     

     

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/german-far-right-party-outlines-plan-to-solve-migrant-crisis-3pv232j9m

     

    Personally, I cannot see what is far right about applying basic common sense.

    As this party is a neo nazi party which call the migrants worm and parasite, sell nazi propaganda and call gay people degenerate, I am not surprised at all it is far right...

  8. Now before I was rudely interrupted by some racist comment :
    the migrants have no money, they are risking their life, something most of the TV ranting about it will probably never understand : living in precarity without any money and willing to provide a better life that they will not have in their torn own country. Do you seriously think they are willing to risk the life of their kids to die at sea if they had other options? Most of them want to be integrated in the country more than the ones living in Thiland and who cannot read and write thai since they re here...and they are the ones complaining about integration...

    The loss of 250 lives at sea is a tragedy, everybody thinking it is a game and they deserve it or that it is a "good thing" because it means 250 people less coming, is just ignorance from old retired people living their dream in Pattaya without being able to read any road sign

  9. 49 minutes ago, Honthy said:

    These people needs money for covering their travel costs, I could see with my own eyes, most of the refugees have mobile, etc....

    I saw two signs in Africa and Middle East, saying Come to Europe and the other said, No, we are full. Sorry, but I cannot recall the original text, they are just their message.

    Would be good to know, who finance them and WHY ....

    Yeah they are millionairs and just like to take their chance to die at sea.....

  10. 1 hour ago, phantomfiddler said:

     

    This is TOTALLY different from the shinawatra system, where promised (and totally unrealistic) high prices were offered PURELY for the purpose of obtaining votes. The existing government do not need votes, they are simply trying to help the farmers, and in cutting out some of the greedy middle men they would be going far in the right direction.

    lol, you think populism was only under Yingluck, do you really think the angry farmers taking the street, and therefore undermining the "99% people are happy with Prayuth polls", may not be the beginning of the end?

    They really want to tackle the Thaksin's out, but if the farmers start to starve and get angry it will turn bloody

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