OldBag

18 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

I don't fear that either my daughters or my son will end up in such disgusting circumstances because i have expended a lot of energy in their upbringing and i think successfully. They are well mannered and show empathy towards others, how they behave towards each other and towards the others friends is a good indication of how they are as people, having said that nobody can look into the future, i just hope that they wont disappoint me. 

so by your logic, everyone who's been raped or a victim of crime was not raised properly,  and didn't have loving, conscientious parents?  seriously, i hope you never have to go through that horror within your family.  i mean that.  but you still don't get it.  over and out.

54 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

I think i put that badly, you would have to see it in context with the rest of the posts i made on this subject, it is my opinion that a certain amount of blame lies with the woman herself due to her disgraceful behaviour in public which also reflects upon the poor upbringing given by her parents. If that was my daughter yes i would remonstrate with her about her behaviour leading up to the rape but i would also have to ask myself why did she behave in this way,how had i brought her up etc.

Have you seen the pictures in the British press about the Christmas celebrations, skimpy dressed women lying around drunk outside on the cold pavement, civilization is a wonderful thing, maybe it will get to the UK one day.  

more important, what would you say to your sons??

16 hours ago, seahorse said:

 

This is obviously an attempt at humour but rape is not a laughing matter.

 

This is not an attempt at humour; it's an attempt to put it in a way that maybe men get it.  And so they stop blaming the victim.

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm not saying that it excuses the rape or that she deserved it or any of the usual PC responses, if it took place, but getting very drunk in a foreign country where the local mores are unknown is never a good idea.

It's like coming to Thailand without insurance, and riding a m'bike without a helmet ( without ever having ridden a m'bike before ) - not a good idea.

Perhaps young female tourists should forget what they "should be able to do" and start thinking about what might happen and take precautions.

Perhaps if she hadn't been "very drunk" this wouldn't have happened.

Is it too much to expect that tourists take precautions and behave more carefully?

is it too much that women can't get around in this world without being raped, and blamed for slack behaviour?  yes, way too much.

No matter how often women are told to stay sober, to stay away from strange men, to buddy up, to dress conservatively, women are raped. Even when women say “no,” women are raped. They are raped when they don’t say “no” too.

There are ways that rape can be prevented, though and they have absolutely nothing to do with a woman’s dress or her behavior. The only people who can prevent rape are men. A meme that’s going viral across social media shows a list of “Ten Rape Prevention Tips” that are sure to stop rape dead in its tracks. If every single man followed these tips, there would be no more rape.

1. Don’t put drugs in women’s drinks.

2. When you see a woman walking by herself, leave her alone.

3. If you pull over to help a woman whose car has broken down, remember not to rape her.

4. If you are in an elevator and a women gets in, don’t rape her.

5. When you encounter a woman who is asleep, the safest course of action is to not rape her.

6. Never creep into a woman’s home through an unlocked door or window, or spring out at her from between parked cars, or rape her.

7. Remember, people go to the laundry room to do their laundry. Do not attempt to molest someone who is alone in a laundry room.

8. Use the Buddy System! If it is inconvenient for you to stop yourself from raping women, ask a trusted friend to accompany you at all times.

9. Carry a rape whistle. If you find that you are about to rape someone, blow the whistle until someone comes to stop you.

10. Dont forget: Honesty is the best policy. When asking a woman out on a date, don’t pretend that you are interested in her as a person; tell her straight up that you expect to be raping her later. If you don’t communicate your intentions, the woman may take it as a sign that you do not plan to rape her.