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I began visiting Thailand 17 years ago and I have been living full time in the Kingdom now for almost two and a half years plus another year as a "trial run." To all who would listen (sorry if I have been a bore on the subject), I have been very positive about the country and encouraged people to visit and even to join me in retiring here. But now I have serious doubts, at least about living here.
It was either in 2017 or 2018 that the Thai government started requiring retirees to maintain a Thai bank account balance of 800,000 baht (about $26,000 in US dollars) in order to get the yearly visa extension. It could drop a bit during the year but had to be at that minimum for 3 months prior to the visa extension and 2 months afterward. I've recently heard that it's not enough to just put that money in the account and leave it there, you have to show that the account is actively getting money from abroad. There is supposedly a provision to show that you have at least that yearly total amount as regular transfers from abroad, but I've heard that some folks have had problems with that. As for me, I meet the qualifications all around so it's not a big issue.
In 2019, the Thai government has instituted a couple of new policies that are making it untenable or at least undesirable to continue to live in Thailand. The first of those policies is that foreigners living here have to report to immigration (form TM30) every time they return from a trip of more than 24 hours outside the province where they live, whether it's inside or outside Thailand. When we stay in a hotel or other accommodation in Thailand, the management makes a copy of our passport and reports our stay to immigration which, stupidly, assumes that the hotel is our new residence. On returning home, we have 24 hours to report that we are again living where we never stopped living. When we leave the country and return, we make a report with our address on it (form TM6) to immigration on arrival and physically hand it to them. They still require a TM30 within 24 hours. Here's at least part of the annoyance. The law states that it is the landlord who is supposed to file the TM30, not the resident, but it is the resident foreigner who has to pay the 800 baht fine (about $26 USD) if the form was not promptly filed on our behalf. Landlords have balked and many have refused to file the form. What do they care, they don't have to pay the fine.
The government has a web site where one can do the TM30 reporting but it has big problems. First, you have to register. I tried but after two and a half months was told my registration was rejected. Some people have been able to register and it's good for them. Even my landlord (an Australian fellow) was unable to register. Supposedly, a smartphone app will be coming someday to make the process simple. Well, this is Thailand, so I don't expect it to ever happen.
Lots of people and organizations have complained to the government about this regulation but nothing happens. I will have to go and spend the better part of a day at the huge immigration center here in Bangkok at the end of January so it will be "interesting" to see what happens.
The second new regulation that was thrust on us in 2019 is a requirement that we have an approved health insurance plan and that they won't extend the visa without it. In other words, get the plan or get out. My friend here is 79 years old and is self-insured. Here in Thailand, you cannot buy a health insurance plan if you are over 75 so I don't know what he is going to do when his visa expires at the same time as mine.
The government's stated reason for requiring ex-pats to have health insurance is that some visitors to the Kingdom have come here, had medical treatment, and left the country without paying their bill. I ask, who is more likely to do something like that, someone on a short-term visa (i.e. a tourist) or a retiree who lives here? The tourists don't have the health insurance requirement, at least not yet, just the retirees. Frankly, the government's explanation is BS. I think the health insurance companies paid off some in the government to institute such a requirement and are now starting to reap big benefits.
It is clear to me that the Thai government doesn't want us here but are too chicken<deleted> to say it. Either that or they are just too stupid to see that these policies will end up hurting Thailand economically. Already, many of the ex-pats living here have decided to no longer travel within Thailand because of the onerous reporting requirements. Hotels, restaurants, etc. are losing the money that would have been spent without the TM30 requirement.
Yeah, they don't want us here so I am considering leaving and I would discourage anyone from coming to live in Thailand.
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17 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:
Maybe they might take notice if we all refused to comply? Though I can't see the Farang community having the balls to stand together.
The sheep are even afraid to put their name on the petition.
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7 hours ago, JusticeGB said:
Immigration has an android app that allows you to report yourself without going to Immigration. For safety I will use when I return from abroad.
Do you have a link for the app? I can't seem to find one or even a mention of such an app.
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I completed the registration online over a month ago. I included the requested pages of my passport and departure card plus my lease agreement AND a letter from the Juristic Person at my condo. They have still not sent me my login ID and password. When I went back to the web site to check, they did list my application but the status was "Processing."
A Thai friend who runs a guest house up north registered and it was accepted and her Login id and password sent to her in just a few days.Screw the foreigner appears to be the ongoing policy at Thailand Immigration.
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6 hours ago, ubonjoe said:
Not as simple as it sounds. You have to register to get a username and password to do it online.
Site for it: https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/
I registered on the site last Monday. When they hadn't sent login credentials the next day, I had my GF call. They said it would be about a week. We'll see...
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10 hours ago, Tanoshi said:
It isn't a Visa, it's a permit and doesn't allow any entries.
You've extended your permission to stay from an O-A Visa. Your Visa has expired.
You have to purchase either a single (1000BHT) or multiple (3800BHT) re-entry permit if you want to exit/re-enter during the 1 year extension. A separate desk at CW.
So basically, if I plan to travel out of Thailand fewer than 4 times, it is less expensive to do the single re-entry permit.
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20 hours ago, DrJack54 said:
Umm, glad you got the extension however few things were your own fault. Some io at CW wish to see a bank activity on the day of application. Strange will accept bank letter day or 2 prior. As for reentry permit. They are done different area. Anyway your best to obtain at airport tm8 download fill in and do at airport. Quick and easy. The tm30 must be very new. I did my extension November CW, and used lease as per every other extension. However they wanted map location of condo. Bit confused about some of your other comments
Thanks, DrJack54. I have the TM8 download, filled, and printed. Is there somewhere special at the airport or just any one of the departure immigration booths?
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I got my retirement (non-immigrant O-A) visa extension today (January 22, 2019) at Chaeng Wattana in Bangkok. Here are some thoughts.
- Based on everything I have read here and other places, your experience may be different.
- I arrived at about 9:45am and got number 108 and they were at 30. They were taking about 20 numbers per hour. I estimated my number to come up around 3:00pm. I went to lunch at 11:00 and came back at 1:30 and they were already at 121 so I had to get a new number (182) and start the wait again. My fault but I don't know why they had skipped so many numbers. Maybe people decided not to wait. My number was called at about 3:30pm so not long after I had originally predicted.
- I had a letter from Bangkok Bank from the day before stating that I had more than the required balance to get a visa. Nonetheless, I was told my passbook had to be updated TODAY! I had to go downstairs, pay 100 Baht and get it updated. I could have accomplished this as well by either depositing or withdrawing 1000 Baht (or whatever) and avoid paying a stupid 100 Baht fee because the transaction would have caused them to update my bank book.
- A friend I met by chance at immigration said that they asked him for a TM30 for the first time and he has lived in Bangkok for 20 years. They didn't ask me for this form or even for my lease agreement.
- I had photocopies of my passport including the photo page, my last Visa page (issued in the USA), the last page with stamps, and a short visa extension (until February 2, 2019) issued at the airport due to a misunderstanding about expirations when I left on my last trip out of the country. What I didn't have was a photocopy of my departure card stub. Fortunately, the immigration agent made the copy for me right there.
- I tried to give him the TM08 form to get a multi-entry visa but he waved it away. I learned at the end that I got only the single-entry visa. A friend told me I had to go to another window and another line to get the multi-entry visa. I am still not clear about that.
- I was pretty anxious about the whole process but he granted the visa extension without a problem. It took about 25 minutes with the agent then had to wait for someone to bring me my passport.
- I think it would have been harder if I had not had my Thai girlfriend with me. The immigration agent pretty much talked only to her and she told me what to do at each step.
- We walked out at about 4:45pm.
What I still need to know is how do I get a re-entry permit when I fly out of the country. If anyone can tell me, I would appreciate it.
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Several years ago I took a taxi in the Ratchatawi area then caught the BTW to my dentist in Silom. When I went to pay the dentist bill, I noticed that my wallet had slipped out and I had no money. The dentist office not only told me I could pay it later, they gave me 500 THB so I could get back to my hotel and have dinner. As I was going through phone calls to cancel credit cards, I got a phone call from the tourist police that the taxi driver had turned in my wallet so I got a ride to the police station and got back my wallet with my 8000 THB and credit cards. Fortunately for me, I had managed to cancel only one of my cards so I could still get money. At the police station, I asked for the cab driver's number and called him. He met me the next day and I gave him half of what I had in my wallet, 4000 THB. He was delighted and so was I. There definitely are some wonderfully honest people out there.
And, by the way, I now carry a wallet with a chain attached to by belt.
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Thanks everyone but I was hoping to locate the one (only one?) that is very close to CR and just off hwy 1. I am assembling a google map of places I visited.
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I was in CR last summer (2014) and had a driver take a friend and me to several popular locations in and around CR. We went to a hill tribe village with 3 different hill tribes. It was pretty obvious that it was set up for tourists but was still quite interesting. It was quite close to the city and only a short drive from highway 1. I think it was slightly north of CR but I was getting a bit confused with all the places we visited but I know it was close.
I've been trying to find it on Google maps with no luck. When I search for hill tribes in the area, I pretty much only get a hill tribe museum near central CR. Does anyone know where this village is? Map coordinates would be especially helpful but road names would be great as well.
Thanks.
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I will be visiting Thailand in a feww weeks and a friend has asked me to bring cash in new $100 bills because he can get a better exchange rate.
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For those who are unaware, pseudoephedrine is the key component in the manufacture of the drug methamphetamine. If it were simply used for alleviating the symptoms of colds, this wouldn't be such a big story. As it is, though, it means that some folks here are in bed with powerful drug cartels.
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Thanks Sea Horse,
I guess that's pretty much what I expected but I was hoping for something really fun, kind-of the Disneyland of restaurants. Oh well...
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I read about the Royal Dragon restaurant, supposedly the world's largest in Bangkok. It looks really interesting and fun. Has anyone been there and is it worth the trip? Is it just a tourist place and is it expensive? I usually stay around Sukhumvit Soi 12 and it is out near BITEC beyond the On Nut BTS station.
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I took two days of classes from A Lot of Thai (www.alotofthai.com) and really enjoyed it. It was more tourist oriented but on my first day I was the only student and when the teacher, Yui (a delightful woman), saw that I was an experienced cook, gave me more detailed and varied instruction. We made all our own curry pastes (several kinds) from fresh ingredients. I really enjoyed the market tour because it included information about each of the foods we encountered and how they are used. Perhaps not a Pro course but terrific nonetheless.
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I had full upper dental implants done at Silom Dental and highly recommend them. The service was very professional, the work was outstanding, and the price was very reasonable. They are about 100m from Chong Nonsi BTS station. You can find them at www.silomdental.com.
One day, just before an appointment, I lost my wallet and didn't discover this until time to pay on the way out. Not only did they tell me that I could pay next time but lend me THB 500 to get me back to my hotel and have dinner that night. Fortunately for me, the wallet had come out in a taxi and the driver was so honest he turned it in. It had about THB 8,000 in cash plus my credit cards. The next day I contacted the driver and gave him THB 4000 reward.
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Technically, and despite the labels on the bottles, neither of these is a Lye solution. Neither is what you get with wood ashes. Lye is the common name (at least in the U.S.) for sodium hydroxide. Potassium Carbonate has the common name of Potash. Caustic Potash refers to potassium hydroxide. What you get from wood ashes is a mixture of potassium and sodium hydroxides and carbonates and lots of other junk
All that said, the recipe probably refers to the bottled liquid pictured, i.e. potassium carbonate solution. If you truly want Lye, it can be purchased in solid form, usually granules, as a treatment for clogged drains. Get the kind that doesn't foam because that usually has aluminum pieces in it that react with the sodium hydroxide when it is placed in water. Lye hazardous to handle so wear gloves and eye protection if you use it. Actually, even the potassium carbonate solutions are somewhat hazardous so at least be careful of your eyes if you use it.
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In Chiang Mai I took a class over two days at A Lot of Thai. Yui was the instructor and she was terrific. Each day we made six dishes and also went on a tour of their local market with lots of explanations about the different foods. This is a real home-based cooking school and they also give you a recipe book that contains all of their recipes. I cannot recommend it too highly.
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Before my last trip to LOS, I called my US credit union (sort of like a bank for those unfamiliar with credit unions) to let them know where to expect charges from. I have don't this in the past and they were always appreciative. This time they told me that I couldn't use my Visa card in Thailand because of the high incidence of fraud. Nothing I said would dissuade them from this so I changed to a different credit union a few blocks away and the card I got from them worked perfectly in all the ATMs I used in Thailand.
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The link in your post doesn't work, do you or does anyone else have a working link ?
Thx
This link works but there's nothing there as the site is under construction
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I will be in Bangkok for about a month in May and was wondering about renting a small motorcycle. My friends there all drive bikes and I'd rather be driving with them than riding behind. I am an experienced motorcycle rider and have been a passenger on several in Bangkok many times so I know the hair-raising potential dangers. Do any of you know of a place to rent a bike in BKK?
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Another consideration for street food fried in oil is that street vendors often use "used" oil which has broken down chemically and contains lots more carcinogens and free fatty acids. Add to fact that they use coconut and palm kernal oils which are bad for the heart and circulatory system to begin with.
For an occasional meal, it should be fine but on a regular basis could cause health problems. The nature of these fats/oils has been cited as a cause of the high rate of heart disease and stroke in Thailand.
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I suggest ThaiCupid. While there are a few who are obviously bargirls and many who might be, I would estimate that most of them are looking for a serious relationship. I met my GF there (I'm 69, she's 42) and we've been together for two years and I expect to spend the rest of my days with her.
Some things I learned during my search:
I'm sure others might have some other tips but these are the ones that came to mind right now.