Hank Gunn

The same CDC mentioned in the OP is now saying that 94% of people who have "Covid 19" or more generically "influenza" had other comorbidity factors. But that doesn't feed into "panic-porn" that feeds the media's click-rates and viewership numbers (in other words, their bank accounts). Not to mention the politicization of this whole thing  (especially from one particular side in the US) in order to try to score political points.

Same thing in Italy, except it's 99% for comorbidity factors. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

In England and Wales, 9 in 10 deaths (91%) were due to comorbidity factors. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52308783?fbclid=IwAR3WxAkwj4T8DiPwx71t_7HcFOvLlVrCpCPw97-x9sNvYMXchlgasSKedsw

Well, at least we know that fatalities of “big bike” riders will be reduced, if not completely eliminated, now that they have to get a special license. (Yes, that was meant sarcastically.)

Perhaps they could implement a similar licensing regime for any vehicle that can travel over 20 km/hr. Oh wait, never mind.

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

Being the nast vindictive child that he is i would not be surprised if he is looking for some criminals kamala has prosecuted to be pardoned.

Perhaps some of those "criminals" who ended up in jail due to her Brady violations? (The ones she refused to answer for when questioned about them by Tulsi Gabbard in the 2016 Dem. primaries.)

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

 

Everybody will die anyway....eventually. That has never been a reason to the loss of human lives  and should nto be now.

 

Contrary to what some very callous individuals are propagating the vast majority of people who died from COVID were nowhere near death until it struck. They were busy leading their lives. I suggest you read any of the many news articles detailing victims.

 

Median age of those who have died of COVID in US is around 50.  It is likely even younger in India and South America.

 

Certainly there are difficult decisions to be made around best response to the pandemic, and certainly there are economic consequences to lockdown and travel bans. But that is no reason to casually dismiss the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people (which would be millions, not hundreds of thousands, if what you advocate had been the path taken).

 

Your comment, "...the vast majority of people who died from COVID were nowhere near death until it struck." Is simply not true, and is part of the "panic-porn" that has been propagated by the MSM.

In Italy, 80% of those who died earlier this year, were over the age of 80 and had comorbidity factors. From Bloomburg: 99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says.

Someone in another C-19 thread posted a link to a site that listed all the National Health workers in the UK who had died. I did a sample of two different groups (sir-names by letter) and in each case both the median and average age of those who died was 59 (not your "around 50").

Finally, an article from the BBC, from April of this year. Coronavirus: Nine in 10 Dying Have Existing Illness.

Every year in the US, over 100,000 people get the flu virus and typically around 30,000 - 40,000 die.

History will show that while this virus is marginally more dangerous than typical flu pandemics, the response is/was way out of proportion.

12 minutes ago, tonray said:

Politically more like the end of the Republican party

Which is why I believe it will never happen.

1 hour ago, holy cow cm said:

Really? He is one of the more popular celebs and is always on TV and she popular and is his wife. Issan guy. Also they both have a tooth paste commercial on TV now as well so are regularly in yo face. They are currently really trending.

But the key is, "really trending" with who? They may be famous with Thais but doubt many expats know who they are and if they do, they'd be a small minority.

4 minutes ago, Elkski said:

Thats amazing they can live  there

Yeah, I thought that the pla turds had crowded out all other marine life there. ????

46 minutes ago, Bob12345 said:

The perfect scenario, PM feels uncomfortable about it and will demand explanations.

It will take months, if not years, before more information comes out and everybody will forget about this whole thing.

 

In the end the PM scored by letting this pass by so people below him could receive nice amounts of bribes, and he also scored for the public opinion by speaking out about it while not taking any action. Win win for him, and he has to do nothing for it.

Absolutely spot, sadly. Standard operating procedure for situations like this in Thailand.

4 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Tell that to the Yellows with their hand-clappers, whistles and other paraphenalia.

 

Worked for them.

 

 

I don’t think it was the clappers that helped so much as support (tacit or otherwise) from the oligarchs and the military.

6 hours ago, Nsp64 said:

Ask yer missus

How would my Thai wife know the definition for a term of British slang?

13 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

Hi Prowler > requested info sent PM - and you're welcome.

>> To access your PM-messages just click the letter-icon next to your Profile when logged-in to the Forum.

Hi Peter, my extension of stay based on retirement is due for annual renewal in Aug. Could you either PM me with the details of that cheap LM policy, or possibly post them here on this thread, since it’s gotten so much interest?

Thanks

14 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Wow, one of my favourites! I first heard in the film Natural Born Killers. Not as good as Lou Reed but great.

Cool. Forgot to mention too, that not only did I take that class with her but we partnered up to do the final class project together. (Since it was a class in Business/Marketing, we did our project on retail product packaging.)

Hung out with her quite a bit at the Summer School sessions actually and got stoned with her a few times (a pretty typical pastime for teenagers in the 70s). ????

2 hours ago, Hank Gunn said:

Hmm, I can name a few now that I think about it.

 

I was born in '61, inCleveland, OH, where my dad grew up and he was a big civil rights supporter back in the '60s. As such, he was big supporter of Carl Stokes, the first elected black mayor of a major American city. After being sworn into office he moved into a house about 6 houses down the street from us. (When I was about 7, I was given a couple of "walkie-talkies" and was staying overnight at my friend's house playing around with them. He happened to live next door to Mayor Stokes and because the mayor had just move in, his police detail were out front, none too pleased that my little walkie-talkies were stomping over their radios. I think they eventually had to move to a different frequency to avoid us.) ????

 

Jump ahead a couple of years and Dad moved the family to Toronto, when he started a computer company with some friends and associates. We ended up moving into a house down the street from the parents of Ken Dryden, who attended the same local elementary/grade school as I and my siblings. He was/is a national hero in Canada, playing goalie for 5 Stanley Cup (NHL championship) winning, Montreal Canadiens teams, as well as the Canadian All-Star team that beat the Russian National team in the 1972 Summit Series. Later, I went to high school at Richview Collegiate Institute, where I was three years behind Stephen Harper, 22nd Prime Minister of Canada. (My older sister, who was most the most academically achieving of myself and my two other siblings and who later attended Stanford, knew him and later said that she figured he'd eventually become a successful lawyer or something similar.)

 

When I was 17, Dad moved us out to the South S.F. Bay Area (Palo Alto, Los Altos Hills, CA area) when sis went to Stanford. I did my last yr. of high school at Henry M. Gunn (hence my user name here) in Palo Alto, where Stanley Jordan (famous jazz guitarist famous for developing a unique fingering technique) graduated 2 yrs. before I did. Mom ended up working at Stanford for about 25-30 years and the last 12 yrs or so, she was secretary to George Schultz (former Sec. of State under Pres. Reagan) at the Hoover Institute.

 

My dad liked to network a lot and belonged to a number of clubs, including The Churchill Club and the Kenna Club (named for Father Kenna, an influential priest at Santa Clara Univ. a local private, Jesuit school with a very good Engineering, and graduate Business and Law schools). I attended a few of these and at a meeting of the Kenna club, I met and got to shake hands with Leon Panetta (an alum of Santa Clara). Leon Panetta was a US Congressman from California, before becoming White House Chief of Staff for Pres. Clinton, and was later named Dir. of the CIA by Pres. Obama.

 

Wow, thanks for this topic, it got me thinking about some of the famous people that I met, in addition to the ones that were from my neighborhood while growing up.

Wow, I left out another big one. After my second year at Richview Collegiate Institute (I was 16 at the time) I took a Summer School course in Business with Margo Timmins, later to become the lead singer in the group, Cowboy Junkies. Here's a vid of them covering "Sweet Jane" that might jog your memory. I think it peaked at number 5 on the US charts in '89.

Hmm, I can name a few now that I think about it.

I was born in '61, inCleveland, OH, where my dad grew up and he was a big civil rights supporter back in the '60s. As such, he was big supporter of Carl Stokes, the first elected black mayor of a major American city. After being sworn into office he moved into a house about 6 houses down the street from us. (When I was about 7, I was given a couple of "walkie-talkies" and was staying overnight at my friend's house playing around with them. He happened to live next door to Mayor Stokes and because the mayor had just move in, his police detail were out front, none too pleased that my little walkie-talkies were stomping over their radios. I think they eventually had to move to a different frequency to avoid us.) ????

Jump ahead a couple of years and Dad moved the family to Toronto, when he started a computer company with some friends and associates. We ended up moving into a house down the street from the parents of Ken Dryden, who attended the same local elementary/grade school as I and my siblings. He was/is a national hero in Canada, playing goalie for 5 Stanley Cup (NHL championship) winning, Montreal Canadiens teams, as well as the Canadian All-Star team that beat the Russian National team in the 1972 Summit Series. Later, I went to high school at Richview Collegiate Institute, where I was three years behind Stephen Harper, 22nd Prime Minister of Canada. (My older sister, who was most the most academically achieving of myself and my two other siblings and who later attended Stanford, knew him and later said that she figured he'd eventually become a successful lawyer or something similar.)

When I was 17, Dad moved us out to the South S.F. Bay Area (Palo Alto, Los Altos Hills, CA area) when sis went to Stanford. I did my last yr. of high school at Henry M. Gunn (hence my user name here) in Palo Alto, where Stanley Jordan (famous jazz guitarist famous for developing a unique fingering technique) graduated 2 yrs. before I did. Mom ended up working at Stanford for about 25-30 years and the last 12 yrs or so, she was secretary to George Schultz (former Sec. of State under Pres. Reagan) at the Hoover Institute.

My dad liked to network a lot and belonged to a number of clubs, including The Churchill Club and the Kenna Club (named for Father Kenna, an influential priest at Santa Clara Univ. a local private, Jesuit school with a very good Engineering, and graduate Business and Law schools). I attended a few of these and at a meeting of the Kenna club, I met and got to shake hands with Leon Panetta (an alum of Santa Clara). Leon Panetta was a US Congressman from California, before becoming White House Chief of Staff for Pres. Clinton, and was later named Dir. of the CIA by Pres. Obama.

Wow, thanks for this topic, it got me thinking about some of the famous people that I met, in addition to the ones that were from my neighborhood while growing up.