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11 hours ago, jacko45k said:

And the fact you have not sought out such reviews or bothered to read them means you are trying to share your ignorance?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/vaccine-benefits.html

You smugly linked me to the CDC site, without offering any peer reviewed study that demonstrates the injections reduce symptoms. I suppose it's quite befitting that you employed the word "ignorance," as it takes one to know one. 

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

People from other Countries seem to have forgotten what an absolute mess they made of handling Covid... UK alone put many elderly people in their graves prematurely with nothing better than complete incompetence. I think Thailand did pretty well too. 

Yes, Thailand has done so brilliantly well that it''s "only" shrunk in population size by 100,000 people since January 2021.

Query the government's database for number of births and deaths and see for yourself: 

https://stat.bora.dopa.go.th/stat/statnew/statMONTH/statmonth/#/mainpage

23 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

That's still a far cry from immigration having the powers to deport someone because they ‘want to’... there is a legal process involved.... 

 

Thus, when people are suggesting that ‘immigration will just deport and blacklist the frenchman’ and it's up to the Immigration officer - they are wrong. Immigration do not have that level of discretion.

 

 

 

 

Stop pulling things out of thin air.

I sent you a link that explains clearly how the Ministry of the Interior can deport one without any legal process. 

You don't wish to accept it? Up to you.  But that won't change reality. If they want to kick you out, they will -- without any judge involved. 

On 10/20/2022 at 4:08 PM, richard_smith237 said:

I’m so sure that is correct....  

 

Immigration officers do not have the powers of discretion you suggest, they cannot just send someone home because they acted inappropriately.

 

Immigration are pretty much powerless unless a foreigner has broken the conditions of their stay, i.e. committed a serious crime. 

 

In this case - I don’t think Immigration have the power to send one of the Frenchman home (the car owner) as he hasn’t committed any serious crime. 

 

The second Frenchman ‘could’ be sent home, by the time this has gone to court his ‘visa exempt entry’ will have expired and he can easily be deported on the technicality of being on over-stay. 

 

 

 

I'm quite certain you're  wrong about how deportation is triggered in Thailand. As far as I know, it's sufficient that Ministry of the Interior gives that order. Yes, it's that arbitrary. One can appeal e.t.c., but the process isn't handled thorough the courts, and one doesn't have to be found guilty of breaking any law. 

https://www.hawryluklegal.com/2015/04/how-deportation-works-in-thailand/

We're merely guests in this country, and our rights are rather limited.  

On 10/19/2022 at 6:22 AM, BritManToo said:

1. You're supposed to stop when you have a car accident.

2.  Why should he?

3. Maybe he has no medical training.

 

And why was the French car driver arrested?

1. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, as i don't have the entire clip.  

2. It's a universal and human obligation to deescalate flaring violence--especially when the perpetrator is part of your company.

3. By law and reason, you shouldn't forsake the injured. It's your responsibility to summon help and assist as best you could. 

On 10/18/2022 at 7:29 PM, Bert got kinky said:

You haven't listed one single crime there.

 

You've missed the point. It's in the discretion of the immigration to send one off for any activity or behavior they deem inappropriate--whether one breaks the law or not.  

4 hours ago, rwill said:

Have you ever done an extension in Thailand yet?  Or are you still on the original, multiple entry, O-A visa.

A key question. I've done an extension, so I should be in the clear. Thanks.

5 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Your non O-A is valid for one year. During that validity you are stamped in for 12 months every time you enter Thailand.

It's a multi entry visa.

You need to be outside of Thailand without a reentry permit and the non O-A has expired

Thanks. I should have mentioned that I'm on yearly extension, my O-A long expired. It seems that all I have to do is not to apply for a re-entry permit. 

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Is your OA visa still valid or do you  have re-entry permit that is valid. If yes you would not be able to get a tourist visa or enter visa exempt.

You can apply for non-o visa with a entry from a tourist visa or a 30 day visa exempt entry.

See: https://www.immigration.go.th/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/9.FOR-RETIREMENT-PURPOSES-50-YEARS-OLD-NON-O.pdf

That form is fantastic. Thanks!

My OA is still valid, but I haven't obtained a re-entry permit and don't intend to get one before I leave in September. The conditions in your answer are slightly ambiguous, so am I in the clear? 

I’m currently in Thailand on O-A. Leaving for 1 month in September and would like to “convert” my visa to O and move to yearly extensions. 

Should I apply to O in my home county or return on a tourist visa and do it in Thailand? I don’t see that option on the embassy webpage, so maybe it’s not offered.

Alternatively, can I enter the Thailand on tourist visa and then apply for O? I read on one website that’s impossible, but I want to make sure.

Many thanks for allowing me to pick your brains. 

5 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Apparently Thailand is unaware of the personal financial crisis affecting potential tourists from many first world countries.

 

Recession, recession, recession is hitting folks right where it hurts the most

 

 

Let us not forget inflation, inflation, inflation. People have little disposable income to spare for traveling. 

3 hours ago, scorecard said:

Yep your heating bills go up in Europe because it's cold, but you move to Thailand and your electric bill soars because it's so hot in summer have to use the air-con all night and part of the day.

 

Which bill is bigger?

Dunno, live by the sea, never turn the A/C on. Solar panels do the rest. PEA bill = 0

Was already detracted in July in South Africa.

According to the discovering doctor, it breaks trough the vaccine, but the symptoms are very mild and not requiring hospitalization. 

So what difference would vaccination make?

5 hours ago, pseudorabies said:

More thinking based on ignorance and prejudice.  Who is more likely to be infected - a tourist who has been fully vaccinated with an effective, Swiss-approved vaccine AND tested repeatedly OR a native Thai who might have been vaccinated and likely never tested who probably encounters migrant workers who are neither vaccinated or tested?  Sadly, it is thinking like this that the public health strategy often seems to be based on. 

Tourists are worried about catching COVID but not from other tourists.

Their chances are identical. The vaccines don't stop transmissions nor prevent infections -- no brand exempt. What is claimed they do -- by the pharmaceutical companies and the overseeing agencies alike -- is to reduce Covid-19 symptoms. 

3 hours ago, Oblomov said:

Why don't they mandate it - order visitors to change up 60k-100k at the airport - track them ensuring the money is spent unwisely at the malls and chain restaurants - when the money is dwindling quickly whisk them back up to swampy - frisk them to make sure they're not trying to fly out with any baht tucked in their socks - grab the next batch and hustle them off to the Kasikorn kiosk and so it goes on

 

One problem - we come from free countries with transparent and accountable governments and we don't get led around by our own governments let alone by those of places we visit freely

 

: )

Which free countries with transparent, accountable governments? Didn't know they still existed.

39 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

70,80 ,90 not working to well. Israel now has jabbed 4 million with a third booster, was on RNZ national news today.

One thing sticking out like dogs bllks is that the hospital numbers are very low in NZ, only the elderly and those with comorbidities are in Hospital.

Most are recovering at home in self isolation. 

But that is enough to, lockdown the economy , people, jobs, airlines are going to the wall, now New Zealanders in Auckland are doing what the Aussies did, and holding mass protests, people getting jailed for protesting against mandates, that say if you don't get a vaccine certificate no job, no Mc Donald's ,no fly anywhere.

Also in that news report about Israel was that the efficacy of vaccine fades, so that after 6 months you may be as low as 30% or less --- not enough they said so thats why Israel is going for Jab no 3.

 

Now look at the insane vaccine roll out that went for 80%, by the time they get there, those that got jabbed first, have low efficacy are at risk of reinfection, or serious illness and can hurtle through the country and re-infect others.

These are mad times ,I only hope that the madness stops and treatment becomes the norm.

My wife's mother and brother, work in the markets, have never been vaccinated, all they do is drink heaps of ginger tea and take a few vitamin supplements- D being one of them, although I worry about them heaps I can not convince them of taking a vaccine or not, they like to do it their way, and so far so good, but not what I recommend personally to anyone as people make their own choice, unless mandated.

A very sensible stance. However, you won't reach many people here. Their mind is made up: "The vaccines stop transmissions and infections, and facts be damned." 

46 minutes ago, smedly said:

lets not forget why Thailand is far behind other countries 

 

This government severely messed up their vaccine procurement and are 100% to blame for the mess Thailand is in right now

You'll never let the facts confuse you, won't you? Vaxxed and unvaxxed transmit and get infected just the same. If the vaccine does anything, it's  to reduce symptoms and hospitalizations. 

6 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Why will there be a surge in cases from visitors that are thoroughly tested before and after they fly? There will be some that will not show signs till later on but any surge will likely be from movement of unvaccinated/untested locals and from porous borders. 

It seen it'll never penetrate your skulls. Vaxxd and unvaxxed transmit the disease and get infected just the same. If the vaccine has any advantage it's by reducing symptoms and hospitalizations. The CDC says and so does Boris Johnson. 

21 hours ago, villageidiotY2K said:

thanks for yours share.

I've opened 3 new different bank accounts. TTB, Krungthai and Siam bank. And currently hold 5 different bank accounts....

But i dont have any more bank accounts to distribute. 

 

So if I transffer say 5MB to Thai stock exchange account (SET), holding it as cash balance, not as stock,

might be safer than keeping them in a thai banks? 

No it won't. The exchange retains any excess cash with the banking system. If it goes down, so does your money.