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If you are moving back to France or the EU that is certainly not correct as they can use their French passports.

Check out this link which explains it all.

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/traveling-with-two-passports/

2 hours ago, jrobinson909 said:

Thanks for all the responses everyone. As mentioned, I am currently staying in Bangkok, so dealing with the embassy in London personally is not a possibility. My parents are able to scan and email documents to me, but when I applied at Chaeng Wattana. I also only have a UK birth certificate and not a Thai one.

 

I'm not sure why the documents I took when I applied weren't sufficient. They seemed to suggest that they would be accepted if I took them to the province my mum lived in before she moved to England, which is Samut Sakhon. Does anyone who has had experience doing this before know exactly which documents would suffice as proof?

 

You can deal with the embassy in London from Thailand.

You do this via the Deparment of Consular Affairs, which is a building located about 150 m down Chaenwattana Rd from the government complex where you are currently dealing with immigration. Go to the second floor and there is department there which deals with the embassies overseas for issues which need their input. It is the same building where Thai passports are issued. 

Personally, I think the path of least resistance for you is to organise, the the Department of Consular Affairs, for your Thai birth certificate to be issued via the embassy in London.

8 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

She is here already so that would be difficult for her to get done at the embassy in London. Here parents have to be involved to get the birth certificate.

She can liaise with the embassy in London via the Department of Consular Affairs in Chaeng Wattana.

I suspect the parents are going to have to get involved in any case. The embassy is likely to want to cite original evedience from her mother regarding her mums Thai passport. 

While her mum is at the embassy, she could potential get the ball rolling for a thai BC for her daughter. 

11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I am aware of that but it is not needed for applying for an extension as a Thai national.

She could use her own Thai embassy issued Thai BC as proof of her citizenship and they should be able to provide her an extension based on that. 

In the mean time she could get the ID and Thai passport card sorted. 

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

She is Thai from birth she does have to apply for citizenship,

Actually no, typo on my behalf which I’ve just changed.

She still does need to get a birth certificate issued by the Thai embassy in the UK (assuming that is where she was born) to get the process going. Following that she can get registered on the house registry, get a Thai ID and then a Thai passport. 

You should apply to register your Thai citizenships as a child of a Thai parent. Here is an outline of how you can do it.

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-when-born-overseas/

We had EXACTLY the same issue recently, and just used my daughters ‘western’ passport for all travel outside of Thailand. Her Thai passport only had 4 months validity and that was fine for leaving and coming back to Thailand.

So long as your daughter won’t be using the Thai passport except for departing and re-entering Thailand then she will be fine. Thais can enter their own country at any point regardless of the time remaining on the validity of the passport. Indeed they can enter on an expired passport. 

On how to use dual passports properly, check out the following link. 

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/traveling-with-two-passports/

3 hours ago, maccie90 said:

Lesson for the next time!

But still i live in a small village and my parents they live 2 streets away from my house we been having dinner many times in the past and everyone got fb and well i think you know how things go. My mom is Thai as well.

It is best to sort your thai travel documents before you depart.

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-when-born-overseas/

As a natural born Thai, you can’t be denied entry into the country. 

Very few people in any case have the reach to prevent a person from entering. Unless she is good friends of the Interior Minister, the she is bluffing. 

40 minutes ago, roulax said:

Thanks ubonjoe, and sorry that this is something i might not understand. 

The fact that you are registered on a tabien baan for 5 years or lesss does not matter as you long as you are registered , even for a few weeks/months?

In my situation i was never registered on a tabien baan for the last 9 years but planning to get a yellow one very soon. Assuming i get one yellow tabien baan this month from my local amphur, this means once my marriage is 1 year old i can then apply for citizenship? 

Sorry again for the additional questions 

Here's a good resource which explains most of what you are looking for:

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-for-foreigners-married-to-thai-spouse/

6 hours ago, mike324 said:

It does state if you want to keep your other nationality, you need to make a declaration to renounce your thai citizenship by the time you turn 20 (for those that were under 20)

 

Or under Section 19

Section 19. The Minister is empowered to revoke Thai nationality of a person who acquires Thai nationality by naturalization if it appears that:

 (2) There is evidence to show that he still makes use of his former nationality;

 

So according to the Nationality Act, it does state specifically that you are not allowed to have dual citizenship. The thing is that authorities aren't actively cracking down on folks with dual nationality. But if they want, they have the power to do so according to law.

 

Also back then you were allow to use your foreign names on Thai passports / ID cards. They have change the law which requires you to pick a Thai name when you apply for your ID card. But they are not that strict and you can still get away with it by telling them you haven't picked a thai name yet, and you will do a name change later.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong?

You’ve got your wires crossed. Here is a good primer on dual nationality.

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-dual-citizenship/

Easy peasy as others have said.  Here is a good link.

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/traveling-with-two-passports/

On 10/24/2018 at 9:06 AM, tangdio said:

Also, where can I find the rubric for re: the 50+ points needed?

And what other rules are not required for those with a Thai wife (singing national anthem, etc.)?

This has a good outline 

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-for-foreigners-married-to-thai-spouse/

7 minutes ago, jumbo said:

Thanks for the information

So to be sure at Suvarnabhumi and Don Mueang I can get the re-entry after customs and my PR is still valid.

I also understood that multi (re)-entry are not available for PR is that correct?

No.

A PR holder gets their re-entry permit done at the immigration office, not at the airport. For those in BKK it is the PR desk at chaengwattana. 

Single or multi rentry permits are available for PR holders.

2 hours ago, jumbo said:

Would it be recommended to hire a lawyer or can you do the application by yourself supported by your wife?

I mean most of the documents requested are familiar as they are submitted when going for Non-O extension on marriage and work permit extension....

If a lawyer is required are there any recommendations from experience?

 

All of this is doable yourself, or if you have a good PA, they can chase up the bits of paper you don’t already have.

As others have said, if married and working you can skip PR and go straight for citizenship.

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-for-foreigners-married-to-thai-spouse/

On 9/19/2018 at 3:56 PM, Farang Muang Phrae said:

If a U.S. citizen hasn't spent enough time on U.S. soil he or she isn't able to to "transfer" their U.S. citizenship to their child.  However, the U.S. citizen grandparents can "transfer" their citizenship to their grandchildren.  At any rate my children are not affected by my decision.   

Sounds like applying based on being married to a thai citizen is your best bet.

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-for-foreigners-married-to-thai-spouse/

good luck with the application. 

1 hour ago, GinBoy2 said:

We had the same concerns with my stepson. 

I’d adopted him years ago, so he held a US passport. Before he left for college in the US he renounced Thai citizenship, so if and when he ever returned to Thailand for a visit there would never be any issues of him having missed the military draft circus

When you say ‘renounce’ - do you mean he submitted an application to the Minister of Interior and the renunciation was posted in the royal gazette?

5 hours ago, jackdd said:

Don't forget that as long as you are under 30 you can be drafted for military in Thailand, so it might make sense to wait until you are 30

A good article on that subject too:

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-military-service/

Here is an excellent link on your situation.

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-when-born-overseas/

Good luck with it all!

You should consider applying for Thai nationality give you are married to a Thai husband. 

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-based-on-marriage-to-a-thai-husband/

Your situation is discussed in depth here:

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-when-born-overseas/

If you have an old photo copy of the tabieen Baan that should suffice. 

In terms of travelling, always use the Thai passport when travelling in and out of Thailand.

http://www.thaicitizenship.com/traveling-with-two-passports/

It may be an 'arbitration' is advisable, even if it is doomed to failure. At least then the court can't order it or suggest it, as it has been tried. This will further delay hearings. We live next to a large plot in Bangkok which has taken about 4 years (and counting) to evict people. They had been there for decades and have dragged it out.

The owner has taken them to court piecemeal, and as each tenant is finally evicted, he puts big signs around the plots saying 'this is private land, no trespassing' etc etc. It confirms his rights to the land, but it is slow going.

13 hours ago, maprao said:

Sorry all I saw was the thread title "but to let" very disappointed lol thought it was going to be the thread of year!

yea - dang auto-correct on the iphone. At least that is what I'm blaming it on.

To everyone, thanks for your thoughts.

13 minutes ago, kannot said:

This "class"  will be no different to many other renters especially where "the company pays".

Youre also restricting your market to a tiny minority and with condo prices now at ridiculous levels the returns unless you can buy at bargain prices ( like I did) simply arent worth it.

Thanks for your response. Surely when the company pays however, there is more potential for a premium on the return? Or am I missing something here....

As the title suggests - we are thinking making an investment on a condo which we'd then look to rent to the diplomatic corps here in Bangkok.

We are long term residents here, so know the city well, and have friends who work in this field both with embassies and the UN. We are familiar with some of the security and safety requirements, however I am keen to understand the experiences of those who actually might be land lords to this class of tenants.

Does anyone have any experience they'd like to share?