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2 hours ago, polpott said:

My daughter works on a Covid ward in the UK as a senior nursing sister. Her ward is again reaching capacity with the sick and dying. Primarily because of people with your attitude. Her words for people like you, "Ignorant, selfish scum".

No, they are reaching capacity because that's what happens in hospitals. These are places for the sick to go and that's where they are going. You know, kind of how it's supposed to be. If your daughter can't handle the heat then tell her to get out of the kitchen but this is the job she signed up for.

I had parents that both worked in hospitals during H1N1 and even though certain hospitals were full no one was saying shut everything down. Your daughter sounds like selfish sucm who can't handle the job she signed up for when the going gets rough. 

On 10/26/2020 at 3:27 AM, RichardColeman said:

Sorry, but does not look appetising to me - or the photos don't , walk past a run down block of condos to a dirty canal hardly screams cultural attraction

A bit of authentic Thai culture. Maybe the most honest thing I've seen from the Thai tourism industry.

On 10/26/2020 at 11:34 AM, webfact said:

The cause of the fire is being investigated.

I'll save you the man power, shoddy work done by low IQ monkeys.

12 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I think the visa rules are more than fair as they are at the moment, however condo ownership should allow the owner to be eligible for a temporary Non-Immigrant visa upon production of authentic ownership papers. This of course can be extended and renewed annually based on legitimate and eligible circumstance; retirement, marriage etc.

 

Owning a condo, regardless of cost should not be entitlement to stay in Thailand perennially.

 

I would hate to see mass immigration without integration in Thailand as we have seen in the West.

 

It would turn out to be a backdoor for mass Chinese immigration and money laundering activities.

 

 

They don't need backdoors for mass Chinese immigration and money laundering when that's all done up front. What they do need though is a little integration into the rest of the world. Unless, of course, you're hoping to get back to the times of hansum man who loved by all thai lady. 

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Lurching sounds so painful.  Off Topic not quite.  Spending money on a compulsory insurance that really does not cover anything and for the prices they want, just is a sham.  Thailand's Government  may not want the type of tourists I described but the families who send there women to work in those locales sure do.  It is unfortunately part of the endemic society that the Thai Government is trying to do away with, yet those are the types of folks who need insurance the most, just not TAT's super compulsory Insurance.  Many Airlines are now selling Tourist Insurance which covers Covid, and then most peoples home insurance they have will cover it as well.  Should you become a resident of Thailand then your home and travel insurance goes by the wayside after awhile and needs to be amended so that it will cover you.  With that said Thailand has been trying now to make insurance  mandatory for years, by a service fee added to flights, money collected when leaving the country, and then the new HI insurance needed for those of us on a retirement visa/extension of stay.  Talked to my Insurance agent on Thursday before the long weekend and he described that it is now apparent that the Thai Government will be pushing the issue of Thai Health Insurance for those on O visa extensions here in the near future.  Go figure, they see a cash cow.  However, for anyone traveling and moving to the US, The UK, or Europe, its is mandatory that you have insurance coverage.  So why is it so hard to put a policy together here that is not expensive and actually covers the insured.  Simple...Greed.

I'm moving back to the states in about a month and I've been doing some insurance shopping. Haven't lived there in over 7 years and didn't have insurance as a young single lad. 

All I hear about is how bad medical is there and how outrageous insurance is yet just a few quick searches and I found a plan for my wife and I around 15,000 baht a month for full coverage and zero dedcutable covering all of the major hospitals in Los Angeles with over 11,000 doctors in the network around the city. 

Compare that to what I was looking at for insurance here with half that coverage and it was acutlaly pretty relieving. To be honest, all of the things I used to think were better about Thailand (cost, ease of doing things, etc.) I've come to realize either aren't the case anymore or just were never real to begin with.

On 10/23/2020 at 5:53 PM, snoop1130 said:

The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) is pleased to share the latest announcement from the Office of Insurance Commission (OIC) that foreign visitors will be able to purchase compulsory COVID-19 insurance policy online prior to visiting the Kingdom.

How pleased were they? As pleased as when they get fat envelopes for bribes? Or just kind of pleased like after a happy ending?

6 hours ago, CanadaSam said:

This virus is not man-made, because the nation in question would not create the virus, without also creating a cure, simultaneously, for obvious reasons.

 

As there is no cure (yet) we can safely assume it was not engineered.

Why create a cure for a virus that isn't all that bad in relation to others. If you're going to create a bio weapon you don't want something that is going to decimate your own population. You want something that is going to kill a few people then let your propaganda machine do the rest of the work. 

6 hours ago, polpott said:

https://www.newscientist.com/term/coronavirus-come-lab/

 

"Researchers led by Shan-Lu Liu at the Ohio State University say there is “no credible evidence” of genetic engineering (Emerging Microbes & Infections, doi.org/dpvw). The virus’s genome has been sequenced, and if it had been altered, we would expect to see signs of inserted gene sequences. But we now know the points that differ from bat viruses are scattered in a fairly random way, just as they would be if the new virus had evolved naturally."

 

Many more links if you care to google it.

A Chinese national educated in China working at a US university claims the motherland didn't do anything wrong. No conflict of interest there. 

On 10/17/2020 at 4:18 PM, sandyf said:

So the 40 million that came last year are now sneaking through the borders, says it all.

Are you daft? There are countries surrounding Thailand that aren’t hiding their numbers where people cross the border everyday illegally. Or are you one of those people who believe only “dirty foreigners” can spread the virus?

Just now, sandyf said:

As usual a narrow minded perspective. I was here during the SARS outbreak and Thailand contained that very well.

Remind me, how many countries suspended all scheduled flights? Of course you are free to believe that has nothing to do with containment.

Scheduled flights don't matter when borders are as porous as a sponge. There seems to be a pattern here of viruses not affecting this part of the world all that bad. Almost as if this isn't the right environment for viruses to thrive in. More like an environment condusive to bacterial infections but not viruses. 

3 hours ago, Oxx said:

Does anybody actually believe that the American statistics are accurate, given Trump's efforts to suppress testing?

Considering the US has tested more than anywhere else in the world he’s doing a pretty bad job at suppressing testing. Thailand, on the other hand....

8 hours ago, sezze said:

Thailand had a soft lockdown , as far as i heard and read over here . But i can agree , that on many degrees , it is more or less on lvl like in other countries .

What you fail is , you think that the deaths are the only thing . For every death person there are like 50 to 100 which need urgent medical care , ICU , ventilators and long time aftercare ( 1 day ICU takes 1 month revalidation ) . Saying the 3-4 deaths you can sweep away ... true to a certain degree , but you cannot sweep the 100's away which needed hospital care also . And we aren't talking about 3-4 deaths , because that still means you have dodged the bullet . A country like Thailand , with the amount of people staying there , we would have seen roughly the same figures like Germany / France / UK with 10000 to 40000 deaths , figure out yourself how many people needed hospital care . And nobody heard something about hospitals full , a few deaths in the same families , and this with widespread family ties in Thailand ..... ?

No, you don't have hundreds of people that need urgent medical care. That has been debunked thorughout this whole <deleted> show. There were a small handful of hospitals over run with mostly elderly patients but for the most part all of the extra beds have remained empty.

What you do have is over 50% of people who don't even know they have symptoms. Hardly the plague. Thailand had the best response out of any country, ignore things and hope they go away. That is the typical Thai response to things and for once it actually worked in their favor. Unfortunately now they are caught up in the hype and trying to pretend like they actually did something revolutionary. 

7 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

and if you pick up the virus in a pub and pass it to a shop keeper on the way home and he sickens and possibly dies that's just the shake of the dice? This attitude is why you're government can't leave these decisions with the people and will not because the people aren't capable enough to make the right call. As illustrated above most don't give a damn who gets sick or not as long as they get to massage their addiction...

Again, if that shop keeper is in public doing business he is consenting that he values keeping his business open more than the possibility of getting a virus. If he was so worried about it he wouldn't have his shop open he would have it closed and be at home. What difference does it make if the person who gave him the virus picked it up at the pub or the grocery store or if that shop owner picked up the virus while riding public transportation to their business.

Life is full of trade offs and one of them is if you go into public you can get sick, get into a car accident, get struck by lightening, etc. and you might, in 2% or less of cases (I've included all cause mortality here and not just coronavirus), die.

I also haven't drank really over the past few years due to being busy with my young son but I would be a hypocrite to call for certain businesses to be open and not others.

As to your claim about the government having your best interest in mind, I've got a bridge I'm willing to sell you at deep discounts.

5 minutes ago, Sujo said:

And the people in your home will be so happy you passed it on to them.

 

try some social responsibility. 

The people in my home feel the same as I do.

I am being socially responsible. If I have a friend that is worried about the virus and was staying inside because of that concern, I wouldn't go to their home as I don't share the same concern and do not live my life with the same protections they are. When I get back to the states later this month this will be the case for one of my friends that has Type 1 diabetes.

However, those people are making a personal choice to stay home. So this still doesn't negate the fact that those in public are also making a personal choice to be there.

30 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I just looked up HIPAA (not HIPPA) and it looks like it covers health insurance plans. Don't think it applies to Trump's situation.

If you would have read further than just the title of the act you would know that it covers patient data and how it can be used and whom it can be shared with, among other things

31 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Of course they can comment, they already have, as shown in my post above.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3228620/

Here is a nice little summation of this exact issue which I've used in prior publications as I write for a law firm that covers many cases like this. The last time I had to write about this was Prince's death and the release of death certificates to the media. 

The doctors have commented on publically available information, which is that he was being treated and now no longer is. They are not making off the cuff decisions discussing with the media whatever they want about his case. They are also not going on his directive as this falls under public right to know for the purpose of disease control. 

Aside from this basic information that has been discussed and which is already public information, the doctors are bound by HIPAA (yes I messed that one up as I'm lazy anymore and usually just rely on Grammarly for checking everything but good eye). They cannot talk about specifics of the case that is not publically available already and which would not fall under public right to know. 

Again, Trump cannot give them permission to talk about this information and there is no current precedent for that to happen. This is well-established tort law and is not something new. 

26 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Seems the government disagrees with you. So do I btw with your 'i do what I want and don't care about anyone else's attitude.

The government isn't a person who makes wise and informed decisions. It's large groups of people with various self-interests that seek to expand power. I could care less what the government thinks and we would all be wise to limit the power of government as much as possible.

Also, I never said do what you want and don't care about anyone else. I said that by coming out into public you are consenting that you understand you may get a virus and potentially, quite unlikely but potentially, die. Just like when you get into a car you consent that you may get into a traffic accident and die even if you are doing everything you can to be safe. 

If you can't handle that then stay home and use the many services at you're disposal to continue on with your life as needed and let all of the people who are not concerned with catching a virus continue to live life. That is hardly telling people to do whatever they want. 

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You mean that Trump couldn't do it himself but would need a legal guardian or attorney? You really want to stick to that explanation?

 

Trump cannot give doctors permission to speak about his medical information to the public. That is not how HIPPA laws work. The only people a medical profssional can share private information about a patiet with are their legal guardian or someone with medical power of attorney. Obviously, Trump has neither of these so they aren't applicable in this situation meaning that the only person doctors can share info with is Donald Trump directly. 

There are no exceptions to this. The pandoras box that it would open if a patient could tell their doctor that they could share personal info with the media would be a nightmare. How would the doctor know what is okay to share and what isn't? You would have to itemize everything that is okay and then sign a litany of documents releasing the doctor from any liability. It would be a legal nightmare and there is no current provisions in the laws for this to happen. 

31 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Works fine that way, as long as you keep into your own bubble with likeminded people.

 

"The government can <deleted> right off and let people make their own decisions about what their life is worth." By meeting other people you are deciding for them what their life is worth. It is not only about getting infected, it is about social responsibility of not infecting others.

No, you aren't. If you are in public you are making a decision that you have no problems with the virus or that what you want to do in public is more important than your risk of getting sick. If you are truly afraid you can stay home and order food in. By stepping into public, you take on the responsibility that something bad could happen. The same as when you get into a car and drive. There is implied consent. I don't know what is so hard about this? If you are really scared, stay home. If not, get on with life as normal.