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1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Clearly, you're in the running for the General George Custer Award.

Would you like to explain exactly why it’s not a realistic scenario?

They all out themselves eventually. The veil slips and whoosh it all comes out. 

3 hours ago, connda said:

 

 

You mean like the open-air concentration camp called Gaza?

I remember when there was a wall like the one surrounding Gaza built to separate East and West Berlin.  How the liberal West howled!  Gaza is now essentially a ghetto and the slaughter of civilians a pogrom.  The irony is simply off the charts.

 

You forgot the beachside hotels 

18 minutes ago, connda said:

Yes - there ya go.  All those women and children terrorists need to be slaughtered, and every last one of the 1 million Gazans who haven't been neutralized are all terrorists.  Just ask Benny Gantz.
If 1 Israeli is killed, then kill 30 Gaza civilians.  That will show Palestinian women and children to stop their civilian terrorism.  And all those terrorist children - kill them all I say, even the one's in diapers!  And blow their schools up too to stop terrorist education.  That's the ticket.  Lindsey Grahams got the best idea.  Just nuke all the sub-human civilian Palestinian terrorists in Gaza and let God sort them out.  Or maybe just gas them all then incinerate them.  Nah - nukes do the same thing but with less hassle.

How's that work for you Mike? Sound about right?

 

You have issues. Thats some nonsense rant right there

1 minute ago, niccodemi said:

Gaza is occupied territory. Don't you think that Palestinians there have a right to resist the occupation? I agree though that targeting civilians is wrong but Israelis are as guilty as Hamas in this aspect.

It’s occupied because the hostages and Hamas are there. No other reason. Hamas started a war on Oct 7th. Hamas took hostages back to Gaza on Oct 7th

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Then all you have to do to back up your claim to to copy and paste it.

I already told you it’s not a claim, it’s a fact. This link in the OP above. Happy to discuss in the topic provided. 

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You're the one who made a claim about the link. It's up to you to provide it.

 

As for "hyjacking the topic"...

This is the topic.

"Israeli Lawmaker Advocates for Global Action Against Wartime Sexual Violence"

Ostensibly not about Hamas, per se. But all wartime sexual violence. At least that's what the Israeli women say that's what it's about. Are you insinuating that their concern is actually a ploy to spotlight Hamas crimes of sexual violence and that these women don't really care about sexual violence during wartime committed elsewhere? Is sexual violence during warfare only a crime if it's committed by Hamas fighters?

The link is in the OP. That is not a claim, it is a fact. 

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

I'm not going to hunt a link to a link. You provide it.

As for the topic, no it's not "spotlighting the atrocities perpetrated by Hamas". You may want that to be the topic but it actually is: "Israeli Lawmaker Advocates for Global Action Against Wartime Sexual Violence"

Up to you. The link to the UN report is in the UN finds evidence of rape on Oct 7th and after related link topic in the OP. Nice try hyjacking the topic though

24 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It might actually be possible for Israel to take on this scourge right away without having to wait for the international community to take action. 

UN experts demand investigation into claims Israeli forces killed, raped and sexually assaulted Palestinian women and girls

 United Nations experts have called for an investigation into what they described as “credible allegations of egregious human rights violations” against Palestinian women and girls in Gaza and the West Bank by Israeli forces.

The allegations include extrajudicial killing, arbitrary detention, degrading treatment, rape and sexual violence, according to a statement by the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights released on Monday. It did not detail how they did their fact-finding, but they referred to photos of female detainees in degrading circumstances reportedly taken by Israeli troops and uploaded online.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/20/middleeast/israel-hamas-un-investigation-sexual-abuse-intl/index.html

 

 

The UN has already issued a report and no incidents of rape were reported to them. Intimate body searches etc were all investigated. I suggest you go and read the report, it’s linked from the OP related links. Then you can get back on the topic here which is for “spotlighting the atrocities perpetrated by Hamas”

23 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You said "Spain is recognizing Gaza as a Palestinian state as of today.". Far from the same as the words from the Spanish PM "Madrid will recognize a Palestinian state including the Gaza Strip and the West Bank".

Spain has recognized Gaza today. What are you talking about? Together with the West Bank. How’s that going to work with Hamas at the helm of Gaza?

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Precisely there are no elections

 

Therefore no claim to Hamas being the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in Gaza.

 

Polls - your having a laugh.

 

Hamas have the people of Gaza in an open grip of tyranny. Hamas frequently murder Palestinians who speak up against at them.

 

Your poll needs printing on soft paper.

Confirmed with your further trolling comment about polls. Noted and bookmarked  for future poll references.

They are the legitimate gov there, stop lying. 

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Negotiations!

 

 

You are funny. They have refused since early December to release any hostages. Negotiate with an evil terrorist group to give themselves up and leave Gaza.................🤣

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No I don’t.

 

Neither do I support the continuing carnage and the collective punishment of the people of Gaza.

 

Actually I’d like to see the back of Netanyahu too.

 

So if you don’t want them to stay there how to get them out and release hostages?

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Unless you can show me the result of recent free and fair elections I do not accept they do support Hamas.

 

Hamas has an iron grip on the people of Gaza, they are not free to choose.

 

Not an argument that finds favor with those support the continuing carnage and collective punishment of Palestinians in Gaza but very clearly Hamas hold Palestinian la in Gaza under a brutal regime of control.
 

 

What elections….lol There are polls that have already been quoted. If you have now decided they have no legitimacy then that’s just trolling

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

How what?

 

I haven’t said I’d do anything.

Hamas are in power. Do you want them to stay there?

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And tossed opposition off the top of buildings cancelled elections and used the money Netanyahu help provide to them to fu d the building of their territory list organization.

 

Palestinians have absolutely no control over Hamas.

 

Why do the majority of Palastinians support Hamas. 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Forgive me, I owe you an apology, I mixed you up with Nick.

 

Nevertheless, I have not offered to get rid of Hamas, so don’t ask me how I would do that which I have not said I would.

 

 

I ask again, how?

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No they haven’t.

 

They have stated they shall recognize  Palestine as a state which is their right to do so. 
 

Netanyahu backed funding to Hamas to thwart the right of the Palestinians to self determination and their own independent state.

 

So yes, bring on the Netanyahu lead Israeli propaganda.

 

The real story is Israel’s growing isolation from nations that were formerly supporters of Israel.

 

Netanyahu’s conduct of this war has done a great deal to promote Palestinian nationhood.

 

 

 

Hamas took control of Gaza and became the legitimate government without any help from bibi

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I don’t neither do you.
 

Hence ….  ‘Elections’.

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Deluded nonsense.

 

 

Nuff said

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I thought you were going to do that? (Without telling them what you were up to of course).

 

I certainly haven’t volunteered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

What are you talking about. Read my post again

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Which is the point I made in my other posts.

 

They have not, they have no legitimate claim to represent the people of Gaza.

 

A fact overlooked by those who justify the continuing ‘carnage’.

 

Wrong. They currently are the legitimate governing body. How are you going to get them out. Say pretty please?

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Sure you would.

 

While Hamas exact retribution against your family.

Hamas a a viscous terrorist organization, your task chair is a comfortable place to tell us what you would do if you and your family were under the control of Hanas.

Ok so we know you wouldn’t