Orangeclockwork

12 hours ago, The manic said:

Sorry to hear of your problems. You may have to kiss your money goodbye. It might be just a money laundering scam like mafia/local councils planning permission frauds as with empty unused shopping malls in the USA. There is no law here no rule of law no common law no napolionic law.  Its a third world country with the trappings of a western veneer.  Its all in their history books. Sorry cant be more positive but something similar happened to me in Uk. Just had to write off 20k BPS. Move on. Good luck.

 

12 hours ago, The manic said:

Sorry to hear of your problems. You may have to kiss your money goodbye. It might be just a money laundering scam like mafia/local councils planning permission frauds as with empty unused shopping malls in the USA. There is no law here no rule of law no common law no napolionic law.  Its a third world country with the trappings of a western veneer.  Its all in their history books. Sorry cant be more positive but something similar happened to me in Uk. Just had to write off 20k BPS. Move on. Good luck.

Thanks for reply and sorry to hear you got onto similar ,

UK law is normally quite good ? 

May happen any countries also , 

 

As now not enough elements 

developer may only go across difficulties ,

why help of members with same experience important 

money goodbye not available option 

Hi there , 

I know a Thai shop , guy is great services ,

he  sells good  deals and all seriously checked bikes in great condition 

at good bargain prices . You won't find best , he will  tranfer etc for you .

Google or look facebook

TAR Bangkapi  

Thanks this is very a clear explanation 

if that s the case , it makes sense ?

 

Condo units sales amount  / Construction costs , loan fees 

That shouldn't show a negative balance or debts ,

unless using NASA research construction materials 

 

developer may also find a way to pay out mortgages  

 

Has anyone managed refunds in others projects ?

what are best legals actions to pressure

(completed projets ) Developers 

onto refunds .

 

Are owners of Ltd s / Management 

Usually the real owners 

or the Developer himself 

in Thailand ?

 

anyone who has experienced or in similar issues 

Taking lawyers , going to court and all the process .

Thanks Pm me for a chat 

Is not the Emerald développement 

I was not allowed to move in  , last trip Months ago 

There was a very low occupancy rate ,

residence rentals only 

Most buyers probably abroad also 

Not much  on websites 

 

Thanks for all replies 

 

It was a good advice looking at owners experiences , 

many google posts on Emerald are closed though 

 

I believe that  Building is a different developer 

 

- Few options members pointed 

 

Rebuying tittles mortgages from bank .

Little costly 

 

Efficient  Lawyer for refund 

Details  welcome , I can't find any .

And looks alike years of procedures in Thailand 

 

Consumer protection offices 

not much results so far 

 

The Contract does not mention  delivery dates !

Project was finished a very long time ago ,

sold as ready to move in .

 

I never hold keys / moved in , as no tittle 

no contact with others buyers / owners

 

Glad to chat and share with others people

who have experienced , 

or are now going through the same issues 

 

 

 

 

 

Developer has been unable 

to transfer Condos for long 

Tittles deeds Mortgaged 

 

Anyone or Groups in a similar situation 

Pratumnak area ?

 

 

refuse root canal treatment or crowns 

dentists will try to sell you first ,

In many cases not needed .

In Bangkok or elsewhere if you get some time ,

Google a M smile dental clinic 

 

quoted 42000 in a best knownhospital 

Cost 1000 with a filling / 30 mn great job 

Crowns around 8000 .

 

 

 

 

 

Hi ,

 

not to break down any positive thoughts ,

keeping your money safe on your account ,

rent a place is a good option ,

Or read my posts .

 

Your bank must be able to sort the form ,

not sure about delays in time ,

 

If is a new Condo ,

Don t pay a Developer or on his account without 

It , or they will accept and further 

provide you a Thai company unit instead .

 

 

no probs , thanks answers ,

I was just not sure also how names are allowed in here ?

Is not the one .

Condo resell no tittle , not much chances .

 

Shall developers 

take millions away as they are pleased , 

mind me why Pattaya s going dead ,

And noone wants invest anymore .

 

Thanks all back to original post ,

 

All practicals advices welcome ,

more answers or options .

 

Thanks answers ,

No names on this Forum I believe  ?

not the one .

 

Above ideas are good  ,

But ending paying more , was already high range priced .

 

Probably else owners are around waiting then ,

Pm me if anyone finds to be in a similar case .

 

 

Any others advices  welcome !

 

Pattaya Condo refund , need advices .

Pattaya Condo refund , need advices .

Seems more accurant ,

most Thai people I met

on minimum wages even in Bangkok area hardly 

above 11000  bahts on 6 days or with overtime .

builders are not well paid also .

 

Offices  , 

or better  jobs  under 20000 bahts .

Sorry didn't see  post above ,

apparently Foreigners do sell and or 

manage developpements , at least one (: 

 

i have learned my lesson , I thing even bars girls are way more trustable 

than farangs when it comes to business .

 

Hi  , I have just pm you ,

 

i not explained myself very well last post ,

 

yes it was bought from the developer ,

who said there was 1 year tenants renting , so rentals would come to me .

then I was back home , on my return they were vanish .

There probably was  never been anyone renting ,

just lies .

I know now , shouldnt  have tenants anyway ,

then there are few people stay renting .

 

i don't hold Condo keys , so can't even stay around 

there to talk around people , and try find out

what their actual situation is regarding tittles ,

 

as you suggest to me earlier wisely .

 

trying cancel the all sale ,  as it's been suggested ,

Would be best sure , through lawyers , 

This would take ages I supposed .

Thanks ,

 

i do figure out it all , only now unfortunately .

not keen on pursuing transaction at all ,

 

renting myself elsewhere over here @6000 month ,

was very happy with it and the freedom .

 

I was looking for some  rentals income only .

 

originalely it was already rented Flat when I bought it with income ,

by the time I paid lodgers were vanish , I just

supposed there wasn't any the all Time .

 

so no Condo no rentals no documents and money is gone .

big mistake that was ,

 

learned how to be careful with Thais for transactions ,

Didnt see  it coming  from farangs  management though ,

so paid in full my mistake .

 

then I don't think there will be much chance

of getting the money back , or may take years through lawyers .

 

thanks for the idea of insurance , I will follow it , if I can withdraw myself of this .

Was my big mistake , don't do many , but here we go ..

 

thanks you  all !

Many thanks for great  advices 

given on the last posts ,

 

It points up More  ,

How good would be a dodgy sale contract

written in English only Regarding Thai law ?

 

Who holds the original contract of sale 

written in Thai , there should be one ?

 

As i have never seen or signed any .

Developer  , his lawyer ?

there should be one somewhere I suppose .

Haven't  got that one , only an English one .

 

I have been strongly advise also 

To refuse anything 

in company Thai name .

 

Was paid on foreign basis at full  price meter /  square 

 

I am not sure how legal that is 

regarding Thai law .

 

Thai company name

does look a very headache to set up 

means probably going through same people 

Mentioned before to be wary with .

 

Anyone has experienced it ?

 

hoping this post helps , 

i am surely not the only one around ..

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Hi thanks a lot for your answers 

 

It does well answer most of my previous questions ,

also confirm my initials thoughts ,

that contract is extremely unclear 

regarding ownership name .

 

I believe it needs a serious professional look  over ,

will follow all your precious advices then ,

 

I approached few locals legals ,

you are very right ,  best bet seems to be elsewhere 

 

 

Cheers .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks all 

taking some Time answering ,

 

For a quick set up of the Sale ,

 

I have bought a Pattaya Condo 

In a recently  finish project .

 

Tittle transfer keeps being delayed 

 

I was not so well advised in first place 

so paiements done .

 

There are  few unclear points ,

 

It s meant to be on 

A foreign name .

 

Then contract does mentions somewhere 

 - if over the foreign quota ,

buyer is to set up a Thai company - 

 

So it would help 

to get competent advices ,

 

Is a Condo sold to as to be 

A foreign ownership , 

paid at the foreign market price ,

Could  turn to be a Thai company name one ,

as this happened to anyone ?

 

As the condo tittle still not transfer to me  ,

Could a sale contract be void 

For late transfer , or over irregularities .

 

A Couple details are not crystal clear also 

and i will  need some professional advices .

 

If anyone already  used or know 

A Compétent / reliable Thai lawyer around or his location 

Or also private message me .

 

Someone suggested also 

on Older posts ,

trying an outside of town indépendant 

lawyer ? 

 

Thanks answers .