DEEWAYNE

Further and hopefully to put closure on this moving topic.

There is no one-way or the highway, - only the way the IO perceives your predicament.

Thailand is overflowing with farung living the dream.  If you cannot show you meet the marriage or retirement visa, cannot bear to deal with reams of real in your face genuine  A4 paperwork and value your own time at nothing.  Take the easy road.  It's safe, its sure and it works for the THAI's.

It's their country we are only visiting.  In my case for 40 years.  Accept the flexible rules and interpretations of the rules.  Thaiand Immigration are not a franchise but independent border controllers who may or may not, been fully informed of their own risk an siruatio

To all who gave me advice and helped clarify my situation.

I am pleased to advise I went through an agency.  They picked up my passport and two photographs (THAT IS ALL FOLKS) from my condo at 1600 hrs Friday 9th February.  Received today (Tuesday 13th March) my passport with 12 month extension of stay plus single re-entry permit also valid for 12 months.   My risk was that it was a fly by nite rip-off.  But after applying risk management to the cost of my time in preparing all the documentation, having it verified, certified, translated and sworn.  And the fact I'll probably have to provide band new documents next time to a different IO who may well accept or from the gist of this forum - will probably not accept my extensive copies upon copies of this, that and the other, all in quadruplicate (JUST IN CASE ANOTHER IO HAPPENS TO STICK HIS NOSE IN)  sworn certified, validated, translated etc etc.

Anyway 4 days done and dusted.  At an all up cost of 17200.

I value my time,  especially since that time is being spent doing what I want.  Caring for my wife in her time of need, watching TV/Movies or just chilling in the pool.  I worked for that, I deserved that.  I got that.  Well for 12 months anyway as 90-day reporting is also done free of charge.

Thanks for all your advice.  Have decided due to wife's health to get Thai Visa Services to get me a 12 month extension of stay on my current Non Imm O visa with one re-entry permit and a replacement for the departure slip which I have lost.  They will also do 90 day reporting for me and mail me the confirmation slips.  Has anyone knowledge of the company I am using,

https://thaivisacentre.com/

Thanks again guys and gals.

I have a Tor Ror 5, and a Tor Ror 22.

I have certified translations for superannuation and a rental property in New Zealand.

I can download bank statements to show super payments in my name, as well as rental income,,,All to our joint account in New Zealand.  I can have these validated at the NZ embassy.  I already have translations to Thai of my letter of entitlement to super whilst resident out of New Zealand, and the lease agreement for our house in ChCh.

I have an email from Land Information NZ with an attachment of the certificate of title to our property there.  Our names are on it so this may be our only tabien baan - if the embassy can validate it and will also get translated.  It may work - It's worth a try I guess.  I will check with the juristic office here at the condo to see if they can provide us with some form of evidence that we are indeed living here.  Will also take some photos with us in them at condo title, plus a few shots within the development and our condo.

I will reconcile the bank statements to our fund transfers, online home delivery of grocery and hardware from Tesco Lotus, and Lazada here in Bangkok as well as our ongoing expenditures for rates, insurances 

The tabien ban is still gonna be an issue I cannot resolve I feel. 

The problem is she is on her brothers tabien baan and he is hindering all our moves.  We don't know why but I suspect he inherited all their mothers possessions under customary chinese inheritance beliefs to the eldest son go all the spoils.  When my mother in law passed we never saw a will, so she may well have passed intestate and her brothers is shitting bricks we're coming at him to recover a fair share.  I do however have a TR 22 and a certificate from the Amhpur in Phayao that the marriage has been recorded there and her official name is now the same as mine, and not her maiden name.  This is reflected in the Thai ID and Thai passport we got for her.  How would we go about getting a tabien baan if we are only leasing a condo?

Thanks again, had anticipated most of that, however my wife does not have a tabien baan.  She is still listed on her brothers under her maiden name since he inherited it, but we don't own property here, merely leasing and so no tabien baan.

Hi all, Thanks again for your time.

My wife is still shown on her brothers Tabien Baan under her maiden name.  He refused to register us with Phayao Immigration when staying with him in October.  We had to move to a hotel in order to comply with immigration rules whilst we went about the tasks of getting my wife her Thai ID card, and Thai passport.

We have now registered our 45 year old marriage via NZ embassy certified marriage certificate, and translation, and registered her name change from her Thai maiden name, at the Amphur in Phayao, and with the help of some old friends of hers were able to get her Thai ID and passport.  Again her brother refused to help by confirming she is his sister - and no explanation given. 

We exited Thailand before expiry of our visas, and re-entered from Vientiane after I was granted a 90 day Non Immigrant O visa which expires about 20th March.  My wife used her Thai passport upon re-entry from Vientiane.

We have leased a condo in Bangkok for 12 months as of January - the lease is in English only.  Will I need to have this translated and certified.  I understand the juristic office notify immigration of our residency here as well, however I believe she is still on the family home Tabien Baan albeit in her maiden name.  Incidentally her address of record on her ID card and passport is also still the family home - now owned by her brother.

Bangkok bank opened an account for my wife and were not interested in a joint account.  So in the short term we use our NZ credit card for essentials and transfer funds from NZ to BKK bank for ATM and lease payment.

I can download statements for Bangkok bank and our NZ bank to verify our income source, and expenditure for purchases made in Thailand as well.

I have certified translated copies of a 12 month lease of our home in ChCh NZ, and confirmation from the NZ Social Welfare that we can continue to receive super whilst in Thailand.  At today's rate this equates to BHT 32864 per month.  My wife is paid a similar amount and we also receive rental income of BHT52500 per month - all paid to our joint NZ bank account. Our joint income is therefore about BHT110,000 per month.

I have copies of the certificate of title to our NZ property (Equivalent Tabien Baan?) plus rates and power bills in our name for that address.  

I have receipts for local purchases delivered to our condo plus copies of water, power and internet accounts for the condo.

I have copies of photographs of our marriage and life in NZ however no photographs of the house showing the street address as it's on the downhill side of a mountain road.

All comments appreciated as to what I still need and whether we go to the immigration headquarters or use an agency.  

Thanks to all.  Yes I was confusing an extension of stay with a visa.  I did apply for a multiple entry Non Imm O but it was only granted for 90 days and single entry, obviously the immigration people in Vientiane knew that my next action would be an extension. It would seem the use of an agent then is not the desired one and the risk outweighs the alternative.  Based on your comments we will visit immigration and request a one year extension of stay - based on marriage.  I think I have all documentation required.  based on what I've read on this site and Thai MFA website.   

Has anyone experience of Thai Visa Service https://thaivisacentre.com/  

I have been quoted 16K and a guarantee of a multiple entry 12 month Non Immigrant O- visa based on marriage, with free automatic 90 day reporting ongoing,  My wife and I are both rather old and this seems like an easy option for us.  We have recently relocated to BKK after having spent 45 years married and raising family in NZ.  My wife has Thai ID and freshly issued Thai passport.  I am here after a run to Vientiane in Dec last year where I was granted a single entry Non Immigrant-O visa which expires March 27th.  All advice welcomed as the thought of enduring a substantial queue process with my wife who is not well is unsettling.