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Salgoodman. We were well beyond avoidant of large crowds and OCD about hygiene before it was trendy.  We're also younger and maintain reasonably healthy lifestyles. Cool, calm, collected, socially responsible and based in logic, with me around. ????

Oh, real shocker, imagine that. Sure worked a charm, though. ????

6 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

It is unfortunate that some people continue to remain dismissive of the emotional impact that this event is causing. Some are people who should know better, but who are apparently detached from the ongoing events and some who are in denial; Either due to fear, or ignorance, or arrogance, or political bias, they are in denial.

 

The undeniable fact is that a large number of Americans are scared and some are indeed terrified. If they were not, we  would not see events like this;

https://www.kwch.com/content/news/Parents-wipe-down-spray-disinfectant-on-students-after-school-employees-exposure-to-coronavirus-568685761.html

A school district in Memphis, Tenn. announced on Monday that a school employee was in contact with someone who tested positive for the novel coronavirus.  That had some parents at the school wiping down their kids and even spraying them with disinfectant.

 

 

Tell me again that people are not terrified, because spraying one's child with disinfectant, under these circumstances is hardly a rational act.

 

In some areas, store shelves have been stripped of products, and there are  long lines  in the stores. if that was not the case, we would not read articles like this;

By AFP - March 7, 2020 @ 10:24am

LOS ANGELES: Sprinting shoppers, rationed mineral water and not a roll of toilet paper to be seen: panic-buying sparked by the Covid-19 coronavirus soared in Los Angeles, the United States, this week. Two days after California declared a statewide emergency, wholesale stores visited by AFP on Friday were unable to keep up with soaring demand for a range of staple items, as citizens prepare for the worst.

“It’s pandemonium – our numbers are double the usual,” said Rene, an employee at a Costco supermarket in Burbank.

“Today has been out of control. That’s why we’re out of toilet paper, out of almost all water, out of hand sanitiser.”

“With the madness here, it’s starting to really set in,” said Lisa Garcia, a 30-year-old retail worker who admitted she was growing seriously worried.

https://www.nst.com.my/world/world/2020/03/572495/its-pandemonium-covid-19-panic-buying-hits-los-angeles

 

 https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/03/13/coronavirus-toilet-paper-selling-out-costco-walmart-target/5041064002/

Chiquita Thursby and Yordano Tesfailasce couldn't believe what they saw when they arrived at Costco Friday morning.    "We saw the line around the block and we thought the world had gone mad,'' Thursby said of the crowd gathered outside the store in Lawndale, California.  "Before it was a scare,'' Thursby said. "Now it's real.”

At stores across the U.S., shelves are being picked bare. The coronavirus is spurring panicked shoppers to stock up on products ranging from cleansing wipes to peanut butter as they prepare to hunker down in the midst of the growing pandemic.  "They're acting like this is the end of the world,'' said Lynette Young, a nurse in Los Angeles, who was amused by the rush as she bought ginger ale and cleaning supplies at a local Walmart.

 

On and on it goes, and the response from  some in this thread, is that no, it is not happening. Do not expect to be taken seriously when you deny events that are well documented.

 

I see the comments here that the media has  made this up, has invented these events. The recent outburst  by the FOX news host blaming China is an indication, a reflection of the fear, even terror, some Americans have. It is a displaced aggression.  The fact is, much of the media has been trying to calm people. Positive stories are being promoted. Calming fear, often irrational, is appropriate. Unfortunately, such stories which downplay the seriousness of the pandemic, also feed into the  "so what" attitudes of so many and explains in part why some countries are in the mess they are right now.

 

The US imposed travel ban is not so much an integral tool as it is a measure to calm the population, to show that the government is taking decisive action. Such a measure would not have been taken unless people were scared. (Congress members report that they are inundated with calls from constituents demanding that the government to take action.)

 

Some TVFers live in their own little bubble.  They do not understand that  for the working poor in the USA, they cannot just work from home or take 2 weeks off to self isolate as they live payday to payday. These working poor are stressed and scared as to what could happen to them.

 

The epicenter of the King County WA, epidemic is a seniors assisted care facility. The residents are terrified and have said so. The facility is  understaffed and  residents feel abandoned. The local papers and news shows are dominated by this  tragedy. To those who say people are calm, I say go and ask the care home residents or their families. Aside from fear, there is a large amount of anger. Anger that will soon manifest itself unless the fears are addressed.

 

I have a colleague in New York City, and he is indeed worried. We don't use the word terrified but he is. He has elderly parents and a kid in daycare. He can't care for his parents now because he knows that his child is a possible carrier and he would risk bringing the infection to his parents. His is but one of many tens of thousands of similar  situations. 

 

To those who wish to deny that a large number of people in the USA are gripped with fear, you have not seen anything yet. Once the  number of infections skyrocket and the dead pile up, particularly those who are poor and in  congested urban areas, you will see fear play out before your eyes.

Americans as a whole are chronically in fear, that's fairly common place, just look at the obscene amounts of psychotropic meds being served up every day.

Those who are proactive and pragmatic about the latest doomsday aren't seeing anything out of the ordinary. Personally, it's everything that I'd expected it to be, weeks ago, I bolstered necessities accordingly. Not everyone is emotionally stable nor able to deal with out of the ordinary realities, I don't think I've seen anyone here deny that. I'm speaking for myself and others I interact with regularly here, no one is terrified. Alert and aware? Certainly, as they should be, with the wu-flu. The elderly and or immuno compromised are going to fall quite ill and or potentially succumb to the wu-flu, I dont think anyone's denying that. A perfectly healthy 10 yr old girl succumbed to influenza last November, locally. Little was said nor did anyone behave any differently. Same, same, but different?

As far as the media's involvement, well most with a functional brain know by now, that they're not required to report based on hard facts, rather what generates clicks and keeps the ad money flowing in. Boring article, or terrifying article, which will generate more clicks? 

I realize  that's a hard truth, for some.

As far as politics, I'm fairly confident they're all scum bags, I don't care which tribe it is. But that's just me.

On 3/11/2020 at 7:18 AM, unamazedloso said:

Has china got the bill covered for the rest of the world? Sorta fair considering it's from China?....

Oh they're getting the bill and paying it in full, one way or another. 

China immediately deflecting? Wow, I'm super shocked they'd do such a thing. Let me guess, they'll announce shortly they have a wu-flu vaccine for sale. Good ol' Red Locust party.

19 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

I'm in the US and have not seen anyone "terrified". That said, I did go to Walmart yesterday and was surprised to see the apparent need to stock up on things. I don't think that necessarily indicates "terror", but it does seem a bit emotional and sheepish. Fortunately, we tend to keep an abundance of certain things around like ramen noodles, canned goods and gallon jugs of water. If one maintains preparedness, the need for hysterics just isn't there.

Oh I've seen people, 1-2, buying 6 mos of sh*t tickets and bleach wipes. But outside of that it's mild tension at the markets, at most. I truly feel sorry for anyone that so blindly responds to things with pure emotional response. Logic and practicality go much further. But that's not good for business nor political agendas. ????

It's the wu-flu. Red locust feelings will only be spared by those receiving funding from said group. 

Cant say I've encountered anyone "terrified" or even close to. While I do take things like this and the every single winter influenza strains seriously, I'm of sound emotional stability, so I approach things with rational thought. I always make sure the Thai and I have necessities on hand, and bolstered things a few weeks ago, knowing people may be consumed with fear based hyper reactive behaviors. You know, rather than upping their hygiene habits. ????????

It's been a good week, in regards to entries and shorts. ????

Ahh so June is when the Red Locust will suddenly be recording no more new cases. Got it. ????

Sounds like painting a target on everyone else's backs. Enjoy the sanction in 6 or 8 months, all. Sigh 

Every year during the flu season I handle my surroundings differently, as there's always ongoing outbreaks, especially during winter. I'll go about this in a similar fashion. Unfortunately the majority are mindless when it comes to transmittable diseases, such as this wuwu flu and keep licking the proverbial door knobs. Fortunately for me I was layed off with a healthy severance and manage our funds better than most, so I'll just continue on with my home construction indoors as usual. ????

3 hours ago, ukrules said:

This is going to turn into a financial issue in the coming years.

 

China will be made to pay dearly for the creation (regardless of source) and subsequent cover up followed by the export of this virus around the world.

 

Think of war reparations, they will pay one way or another. Probably in the form of punitive taxes.

100%, if that group thinks they'll just CCP their way out of financial blow back down the road, they're sadly mistaken. They'll be receiving some worldly invoices and they'll pay them, one way or another. 

He's a bit eccentric overall, for my tastes, but he's not wrong. 

6 hours ago, petermik said:

I pass through this checkpoint each month on my return trips (5 years of them) from Chonburi to Trang,slow down open the window and smile...usually greeted with a salute or thank you....never any problems,yesterday on our return did notice quite a number of cars pulled over for inspection and all thai drivers....

p.s. you could always carry a large card with "possible Covid 19 virus on board" this may help

Ha! That's a fairly good idea actually. 

One ought to be careful when taking on the form of a Rat for personal gain. Never know what surprise may come of it, especially in a locale with little resources when it comes to solving MP cases. Dangerous game to be playing. 

Maybe we ought to place our bets as to where it'll be by October, .5 spread, top 5 winners get cold Hefeweizens from the losers. ????

Just make note of the cameras pointed in towards the cab. That usually ends the search before it begins. ????

On 2/22/2020 at 5:19 AM, ChaiyaTH said:

That would be hardcore, even for Xi, if it turned out to have released this virus on purpose
in order to show the importance of controlling their people entirely, unquestioned.

 

It's only a theory, but not inconceivable at all, not a bit. 

I have a ton of my funds now in Baht, so I'm confident that it will only increase in value. I'll seek out of information supporting my preference and then it will be fact. I insist. 

Cannabis prohibitionists are the scourge of the century. 

On 2/15/2020 at 5:17 AM, BritManToo said:

But he can blame the corrupt police, and the corrupt immigration that conspired to heavily punish a foreigner for a crime a Thai wouldn't even be fined 500bht for committing.

Agreed.