Johny90

15 hours ago, Johny90 said:

London, ON? 

London, UK.

3 hours ago, NonthaburiBear said:

which part of London youre mate ?

SE blackheath bud. London lad?

On 10/01/2018 at 3:56 AM, theguyfromanotherforum said:

London, ON?

London, ON? 

London, UK.

On 10/01/2018 at 4:10 AM, sanemax said:

TBH , I did have you down as a troll .

First post , typical situation .

Maybe you are genuine , I will go and read the OP again and reply

If you are just trolling, please PM me stating as much , as I dont want to waste my time

Bud, im still confussed as to why everyone thinks im a troll. Ok, after having a browse I get it (a bit), a lot of guys get themselves in this situation and maybe the older, more experienced, thailand goer will laugh about it because they see one outcome.. 

Ive had a read of these posts but all situations are different so i thought id post.

I mean, what do people want to beleive im real? Haha 

My facebook.. phone number? Lol

Id happily give them for some sound advice. 

8 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

Well, I am a nasty Serb, but just like you I am also Canadian.

 

Anyway, don't do it bro!

Londons a long way from Canada.. im sorry to hear that

On 02/01/2018 at 5:51 AM, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

Absolutely. That's why he is on this forum looking for advice instead of having one on one with his mom.....cuz she'd approve for sho

If you re read the post im looking for past experiences with someone whos been in a simualr position. Funnily enough the old dears never dated a thai bird. Pretty sure I saw yours in one of the bars though

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

No, "keyboard warriors" is a reference to people who are abusive and confrontational on forums , people who make threats online , but will not do it in real life , that is the definition of a keyboard warriors .

   People ridiculing others are not keyboard warriors

I see from you quick reply your also in the same boat as the orginal post I commented against. 5555

Someone who comments with no helpful advise or suggestions and just trys to belittle the OP behind a computer screen..  keyboard warrior. Trys to entertain his boring life with a reaction as theres no possible positive comeback from his actions. 

A bit like what your trying to. Maybe take up chess bud. Kills hours of time. You can always play online against a computer if you have no one to play against. 

Yawnnn

On 02/01/2018 at 1:36 AM, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

Johny, you got it all wrong.

 

I come from a "poor" country and women were not prostituting themselves like they do in Thailand.

 

This is a pure nonsense as Thailand is a richer country than where I come from.

 

It's just easier. Pure and simple. There are plenty of Thai women who had it tough, abandoned with a child, grew up dirt poor and still managed to make their own lives - on their own. I know one such woman in her 30's who is absolutely drop dead gorgeous. She has her own cooking school and just bought a house for 10mil in Bangkok. She's currently chatting with some Italian guy who wants to meet her.

 

I'm afraid you are too slow Johnny, but all I was saying you can do better than a prostitute in Thailand.

 

Good luck to you.

 

 

Where are you from, if you dont mind me asking?

Ok, maybe in your country they dont.  But maybe the option isnt there for them? Thailand has a thriving sex trade. If you were a female who has two children and the father walker out and left you with nothing.. what would you do? Work on a farm for 150 bht a day or try to provide them with a better life with a potential of earning 2000 bht a day + drinks? 

Im not condoning it bud.. its all new to me. Im just trying to see both sides.

On 02/01/2018 at 1:50 AM, sanemax said:

May I ask you a question ?

Are you also scrolling through forums and talking to people who you dont know from behind your keyboard ?

  Or are you different ?

A question in a forum..  I guess that seems normal. So, yes. 

A* for observation there sanemax but clearly I mean scrolling through forums and being rude or leaving harsh comments to try and get a reaction out of people you dont know.

The idea of forums is to advise/ share expereinces, advise and information. Leaving comments to 'try' and take the Mick out of someone you dont know... keyboard warrior?

12 hours ago, sanemax said:

Whether she is a nice person or not is besides the point, the point being is that she is a prostitiute

Thats one way of looking at it.. 

Then the other way could be the pure need for money because of poverty. Having children to feed and Thai men messing them about they might have no choice but to do this to provide for their family. 

I thought same way before reading up online. The luxury of living in the west, eh?

13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm not saying it is true in this case, but in Thailand there is the "long con" where they give up short term gain to make it large later on. My ex wife did the long con on me, so I know of what I speak.

Helps if one doesn't let on how much money has and keeps saying one is poor. Offering to buy houses and cars for the beloved is a sure fire way to get long conned.

Sorry to hear about that bud.

This is exactly the kind of advice I was looking for because if theres any con to be had from her it will be a long term one. We've talked a while and the messages are constant from her. I know she isnt talking to anyone else because she wouldnt have the time Lol. She hasnt asked for any money, I even offered testing her. 

What should I look out for/ be cautious of from your experience? 

She has pretty much finished building her own home on her aunts land so I dont need to worry about property.

Thank you in advance

12 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

I don't want to sound harsh, but at 26 the best you can do in Thailand is a bargirl?

 

The only bright spot in all this that you will be thought life lessons early on, unlike some old guys who will never get a second chance.

 

As for being jealous, I am really not sure what of? You dating a bargirl?

 

 

Dont mean to sound harsh but make out im a guy who cant get girls in my own country haha

You seem bored with your life.. scrolling through online forums, behind your keyboard, giving it to people you dont know. I feel sorry for you bud. 

I went to Thailand and started speaking to a girl, I didnt go out looking for it. So, I guess no, not the best I can do. I'll put it down to timing.

Best of luck to you.

1 hour ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

Sure. Everybody here believes you.

Its ok to be jealous bud. After all, your DP is of a star trek character which probably says alot ?

4 hours ago, Watchful said:

Something is terribly wrong with ALL of the stories and ALL of the posts in this thread.

 

Everyone has ignored the two most important people in this situation. Johny you are NOT the most important person in the world to your GF. To her and FOREVER the most important people in her life are her two kids.

 

Johny, how do you see yourself bonding with these two kids?  Is that something you look forward to? If you can't see yourself as a dad and provider, you need to move on.  It will never, ever work.

 

Look, she spends every waking hour worrying about her kids and their well-being. Now you could fit in the picture, but only as someone who provides security and a future for these two youngsters. If you faithfully fulfil that role, you could indeed have a happy life together.  

 

At 26, is this something you'd seriously like to commit to?  

 

If you choose to ignore these two people, I can guarantee you will regret it.

Thanks for your comment!

When talking about a possible future with her, I talked to her about this and she knows IF things do work out I have no problem with that. Im now noticing that, even in the UK, a lot of girl have a child or two. I doesnt bother me. I understand that when somebody becomes a parent, their children are the centre of their world. 

The reason for the post was more to try and figure out her intentions from my explanation of the situation and what has happened between us so far. If im just a future 'walking ATM' for her to leave the bar scene and nothing else.. maybe? I guess nobody will know. I was hoping there was someone out there who has been in a simular situation!

2 hours ago, KhunMhee said:

All joking aside bud. If you use the search function it will show lots of these stories. Most cases it does not end well. 2 rules I live by. If the offer is too good to be true it likely is. And a leopard can't change its spots. Even if she has the full best intentions something always will come up.

 

Either way it's your life and if you're absolutely certain then I wish ya luck. It wont be an easy relationship up hill fights most of the way.

Reading those stories is what worried me haha.

Your right, to much grief for what its worth at this early stage.

Cheers for your comment back bud

On 29/12/2017 at 10:18 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

The best advice you have received is to "run Forrest run". You can choose to ignore it, but don't cry if it all turns to tears.

I had many bar girl girlfriends ( a lot longer than 3 days ), but if one was planning the wedding ( asking you to visit the family is code for I want to marry you ) after 3 days, she wouldn't be seeing me again. 

BTW, many bargirls have several "boyfriends" sending them money from overseas and spend their time away from the bar messaging and skyping them all. Their problem is making sure they don't all turn up at the same time.

 

Famous bargirl lie- "send me money so I don't have to go with man". 

It wasnt after 3 days she was declaring her love and wanting to marry me or I would have done the same and RAN! Lol. We've been talking a while.

I understand many BGs have several 'Boyfriends' but I dont think its possible with her because, we message so much and the replies are pretty instant when the conversation is flowing. She wants to video call me alot . 

She hasnt asked for money to stop working, I did offer to test her reply but she said she does not want to do this because I should not be supporting her at this stage and hasnt bought the subject back.  

It may seem im mind set from my reply but im still considering. Im just replying to your points. 

Thanks for the comment!

On 29/12/2017 at 10:09 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

That's a bit harsh. If I was 26 now and knew anything, I wouldn't bother with Young women back home if my life depended on it. My biggest regret is that I didn't know enough when I was 26 to stay away from them and wasted so much of my time trying.

Completely agree

On 29/12/2017 at 1:22 AM, Berkshire said:

....and the best you can do is a 32 yr old BG with kids?  Young women back home ain't doing it for you? 

 

The thing is, a BG who's been in the business a long time most likely has had her heart broken many times over.  By Thai and foreign blokes alike.  Over and over again.  Nevermind you trusting her, when will she trust you? 

I could easily find a nice girl in the UK id say but it comes down to timing. Right now ive gone to thailand and meet this girl. 

Thats very true. Thanks for your comment bud

2 hours ago, KhunMhee said:

Quite simple. Buy her the biggest house you can't afford. Give her 50% of your wages. If she is still with you in 10 years she is a keeper. Don't listen to anyone else I think you're on the right path. Best of luck to you and remember the bigger the house the better

Hilarious. Whens the stand up tour start? Id like a ticket.

Like I said, first time to Thailand so im asking for some advice and peoples past experiences on bar girls. I mean, isnt that what forums are for? Sarcastic expats who take the Mick out people behind a keyboard.. Great one!

Cheers to those who have left sound advice for me to consider.

7 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Banks dont give bar girls loans to buy houses, you may want to look into who's name is on the mortgage.

 

OP, a lot of this comes down to your future plans, are you intending to move to Thailand, or looking for a Thai girl to come to your country. Otherwise, whether she can be trusted, genuine etc isn't really relevant. 

Thats interesting... I'll have to giver her an ask..what do banks require for a cash loan in Thailand?

Right now I have no idea on my future. Im 26 with a decent job working for an international company so the worlds my oyster, I guess. 

I can see a future with this girl - once (and if) the tust could ever come...

21 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

Well here goes!   Yours is a classic story, heard and written about thousands of times over many many years.   It comes down to this, she is either giving you a story you want to hear, or stringing you along and you are not going to know which it is from miles away.  She may well be genuine, as this is how a lot of relationships do start.  She is not a youngster anymore, she has two kids to support and maybe, just maybe, you have found a connection that may work.  Despite what lots of people on this forum will tell you, nobody can give you advice on how to proceed.  Several things are for sure, no relationship  like this can survive  months of separation; this is going to cost you money, as for her to stop, you must support her. You may well pay for years and nothing ever comes of it.  Getting her out of LOS to your country is expensive, time consuming and may not be successful, even if you are married.  She already has a family, you are younger and don't, will that work for you?  Tough questions mate. I wish you luck. These relationships have worked for others, but not many an d after a lot of heartache and coming and going. 

Thanks for your reply bud!

 I guess your right. Any kind of relationship from, near enough, opposite ends the world is doomed from the start. 

Like you said, im much younger than her so, Im not to sure how it can progress. For one I have no idea on how the country/ women works out there.

I dont mind some baggage, most women (even here in the UK) have some these days. 

Im already booked up to return in march so, if theres no red flags before then, I'll see what she has to say about her plans and intensions and go from there. 

Thats deffinatly brought some more points to mind though. Thanks again!

Thats a no then? Haha

Hi guys,

Im just looking for some advice/ past experiences about a thai girls..

2 months ago, when in Pattaya, I met a girl at a Go-go bar. After a few days of pre drinking in there amd getting to know her, it seemed like we hit it off. I paid her bar fine for two nights.

2nd night we went out and on the way back to the hotel stopped in the bar she works for a few drinks. I got on really well with the owner after a week of drinking in there (an older lady). I played pool with her betting that the loser rings the bar bell and buys everyone a drink. I won and she changed this to winner rings the bell. She kicked off and the girl I fined stuck up for me and ended up getting sacked (as well as a few pool balls thrown her way).

I spent three days with her in total which brought me to the end of the holiday. She never asked me for payment but because of her getting sacked etc i paid her 4000bht. However, other than the odd beer at her bar, she never offered to pay for anything when we were out and about (taxi, food, drinks) or said thank you when I did. We seemed to have a lot of fun and a laugh and she also told me she likes me more than just a customer.

I return home to a few messages from her saying she missed me. The day i left she returned home to surin and spent a few weeks there. When returning to Pattaya she found a new job and she tells me she feels bad towards me going with customer and it took her a while to go with one. I know this because she constantly messages me all day every day and most nights wants to video call me. I offered (tested her) to send her money each month and look after her if she wanted to return home but she declined my money. She has nearly finished building her own home in Surin (bar work and bank loan funded). I told her I do not like the work she does but it is ok for now as she needs money to finish her home and to provide for her family, as long as she always uses condoms.

She is 32 with two children and im 26. She has never asked me to send money and tells me in 2 months she will finish the bars because she has had enough and wants to settle down. Im due to visit her in 3 months. She wants me to meet her family, see her home and quite often talks about having a family with me. She comes across very soppy, always talking about her feeling towards me. Today we exchanged over 350 messages after her taking the night off from work because she "wanted to talk to me all night". She has also put on facebook she is in a relationship and a few times sent me screen shots of men messaging her and her replies telling them she is in a relationship and she is not interested.

This was my first time to Thailand and all the internet consists of is sob stories with western men and thai girls not working out and them getting conned one way or another so im not sure what to think.. She knows I think this and says she understands as a lot of thai girl use western men.

All the boxes seems to have been ticked and she seems genuine but can you trust a bar girl or help not think she has other intentions?

Thanks in advance! 

Johny