llopatka

"These people are so stupid". As a Thai citizen, I would appreciate it if you and your lot left my country too! You are ignorant, bring nothing but trouble, and you speak in double-tongues. Elections are *critical* to democracy, Khun Kwai Lueung; the opposite form of government - unelected panels - are *always* associated with authoritarian regimes (aka dictatorships). I honestly don't understand why you guys don't simply move to Laos or Burma: countries that already embrace your political ideology! Wouldn't that be easier?

I am ashamed to say that some of my family members associate themselves with your group. I no longer consider myself related! You disgust me.

- Samui Lucas

My thai wife laugh when she read you post

First she agree with you

but second she said you do not speak like a thai

You speak like a falang pretending to be Thai

So I ask her does that make you a FAKE THAI

ooops I said the wrong thing we are still not talking

TV Hub of fake Thais.

But more troubling was the fact he had to ask his thai wife this..

And how would as thai wife know what a thai writing in English sounds like anyway or a farang trying to sound thai ?.....I think both posters are bullshitting

Do I need to send you scanned copies of my identification and birth certificate too? And a picture of me holding it? I'll happily give you my mother's phone number if you really want to verify, but she's not gonna be happy to hear that you're accusing me of being a *fake* Thai. I've already posted my docs on here once: for all to see. You know what was disturbing? Between tezzainoz and his Thai wife, they couldn't figure out that there's only one Thai guy who has the name "Lucas Lopatka". My Dad's Canadian, and my Mom's Thai. I was born on Ko Samui. It says so on my papers. I do not see what part of this is so hard to understand. Geez, like I'm just on here trying to participate in a discussion about something that concerns me, and I get slammed for projecting myself as who I am? My parents are involved in the tourism industry, and our family is deeply affected by this turn of events. Our renters are disappearing in droves, and our extended family is split by ideology. Seriously, what gives these haters the right to *tell* me where I'm from?

"...and warned actors and singers supporting the anti-government People Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) that Chiang Mai people do not welcome them."

Let's create some borders and close our minds.

So, is this basically one of those separatist groups who want it all their own way, as usual? They want to reap all the benefits of nationalism that suit them but also have the power and autonomy to reject any of it they don't like? Basically do what other can't. That is to have their cake and eat it too. Sorry, but life just doesn't work that way. You've got to take the good with the bad. The French Canadians have been trying to do this for ages but they have never succeeded.

If they insist on going further, just tell them to let us know about their new system of government. new currency, new....etc. Thaksin and Yingluck can be President and First Lady, in some perverse type of union. They can give everyone a new car and pay $5000 a tonne for rice in attempt to corner the market. They can also travel the world shopping to their heart's content, knowing that the loyal Redlanders are all being good and honest subjects. Then the fairy godmother will come and sprinkle magic dust on everyone, and life will be sanook, sanook, and more sanook without that nasty reality stuff ever getting in the way.

The French-Canadians used separation as a tool for leverage, in an effort to protect their culture: a right granted by the Quebec Act of 1774. Anyway, that whole debate is soooo 1995. Separation isn't a hot topic in Quebec anymore, and hasn't been for some time already.

The issue in Thailand is much more heated and intense, and the contributing factors are nothing like those in Canada. That being said, I agree that the creation of a land-locked autonomous region is - in my opinion - complete and utter lunacy.

Did caretaker-PM Yingluck yet make any comment, about her supporters' actions, on Friday in her home town of Sankampaeng ?

Surely at least a brief-statement, or a Facebook-post, I must have missed over the week-end ?

Nothing, nada, zip, zilch etc, etc

Maybe she doesn't want to feed the trolls! Nutters on both sides OMG!

Not a good idea to put yours or anyone else's phone number on a forum - unless its a fake number!!!

It'll get zapped soon enough... I am insulted and I'm posting on the off-chance that some moron is gonna dare call me a *fake* Thai to my Mom.

If it means anything to you - I believe you are Thai - Ponchi though is not Thai!!

Lol! Agreed! And thanks

Not a good idea to put yours or anyone else's phone number on a forum - unless its a fake number!!!

It'll get zapped soon enough... I am insulted and I'm posting on the off-chance that some moron is gonna dare call me a *fake* Thai to my Mom. There are ignorant people on both sides of this debate, and that is *exactly* what is tearing my country apart. Given that, I would argue that my comments have been completely on-topic.

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Now that's North Korean style!

"No doubt they would bring Thaksin back as their democratic elected leader for life, succeeded by his son." Where do they come up with this garbage? So what if a guy wins two or three elections in a row? Totally normal, and natural occurance: look at any G8 country! Give us a party other than the Democrats as an opposition: I'm sure there are plenty of able-minded citizens like myself who would vote that party in so this mess can go away! And why, exactly, are we comparing Thailand and North Korea? I don't see millions of starving people. C'mon, man....

Well, they took the farmer's rice and then didn't pay them for it. It the kind of thing the North Korean government does, isn't it?

I come from a G8 country and we haven't had a rich tycoon, his brother in law, and then his sister being Prime Minister in near succession to each other. If you don't think Thaksin's ambition was to be PM/President for life, regardless of any laws he might have broken, you weren't paying attention from 2001-2006.

If they had let the elections roll normally, and the Democrat opposition would stop sucking up to the military like they have been since 1946, we wouldn't be in this situation. Let TRT/Puea Thai or whatever incarnation of theirs finish their term, and vote for someone else! If they don't get out, then *that* is when you have the protests. It certainly doesn't help that the *corrupt to the core* Election Commission shreds the legitimacy of everyone but the Dems. I was there in 2001, and from 2004-2010. I was at the protests. I had f***ing bullets shot at me. My vending machines got shot up with bullet-fire. I lost my company over the mess! That's what the mandarins and their yellow supporters hailed on us.

Agree to disagree, but I can see where you're coming from... screw Thaksin and his sister! I could care less. I just wish people would stop messing with the electoral process!

No doubt they would bring Thaksin back as their democratic elected leader for life, succeeded by his son.

They would have their red army, red schools, red law for the masses with leaders exempt and anyone who didn't agree with them would be banned, like the singers.

"Democratic" Lanna Republic, as democratic as North Korea. The Thai armed forces should act quickly here, these people have to be put in jail.

Now that's North Korean style!

"No doubt they would bring Thaksin back as their democratic elected leader for life, succeeded by his son." Where do they come up with this garbage? So what if a guy wins two or three elections in a row? Totally normal, and natural occurance: look at any G8 country! Give us a party other than the Democrats as an opposition: I'm sure there are plenty of able-minded citizens like myself who would vote that party in so this mess can go away! And why, exactly, are we comparing Thailand and North Korea? I don't see millions of starving people. C'mon, man....

this people so stupid.

go away from my country please !!

"These people are so stupid". As a Thai citizen, I would appreciate it if you and your lot left my country too! You are ignorant, bring nothing but trouble, speak in double-tongues, and tarnish Thailand's international reputation. Elections are *critical* to democracy, Khun Kwai Lueung; the opposite form of government - unelected panels - are *always* associated with authoritarian regimes (aka dictatorships). I honestly don't understand why you guys don't simply move to Laos or Burma: countries that already embrace your political ideology! Wouldn't that be easier?

I am ashamed to say that some of my family members associate themselves with your group. I no longer consider myself related! You and your supporters disgust me.

- Samui Lucas

I wonder until when those mules will realized how stupid it is even for big money.

this is a pretty narrow minded post, you don't know her background and what else was used as an "incentive" to make her do this, usually mules don't have a choice. Go read a book or google it.

What a load of crap.

Mules DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE.

My God what a stupid statement.

Of coarse they have a choice.

DO IT OR NOT.

GREED my friend GREED.

Read my post before you type. Here's an excerpt concerning your baseless opinions, just for your benefit:

You call B50,000( $us 1,600) BIG money.

My god i would not do that for B 1 million.

In for a long time.

STUPID woman.

NO pity at all.

PPP of Mozamique is $1100 (USD per capita). For those of you who don't know what that is, purchasing power parity conversion factor is the number of units of a country's currency required to buy the same amounts of goods and services in the domestic market as U.S. dollar would buy in the United States. Compare that to $36500 in the UK. Therefore your 1 million baht is roughly equal to her 50k.

Here's another one for you to consider... johnopolo should listen up too... I mentioned in my last post that the Mozambican HIV/AIDS prevalence rate is 16%, and 22% among women aged 20-34. The average household size in Mozambique is 4.8 persons with a median of 5 (median is the most common number, in case you didn't know). Do the math... no, wait? You didn't get that far? So that's why you're spending your BIG 1 million baht on cheap beer and bargirls that you condescend on? If you had a family member with HIV/AIDS, you might know that anti-retrovirals cost $10,000-15,000 USD / year. That is big money -- enter the multiple trips that she made. What if it was someone in your family? In mine, we do whatever we have to to help. I'm glad I'm not a part of yours.

I've held more than a fair share of my thoughts regarding blatantly stupid comments on this forum, but some of the ones here are astounding -- especially given that they're coming from ex-pats who have resided for considerable time within a buddhist culture... Here are a couple of them:

bridge2bridge:

"My God another one-- will they never learn.

Appears not.

Now 37 will be in her sixties when she gets out, if she is lucky.

Stupid woman, no pity for some one who does this."

The average lifespan in Mozamique is 49.7 years. Not like the poor woman had much longer to live anyway -- she might as well have been a senior citizen...

Another one from bridge2bridge:

"You call B50,000( $us 1,600) BIG money.

My god i would not do that for B 1 million.

In for a long time.

STUPID woman.

NO pity at all."

PPP of Mozamique is $1100 (USD per capita). For those of you who don't know what that is, purchasing power parity conversion factor is the number of units of a country's currency required to buy the same amounts of goods and services in the domestic market as U.S. dollar would buy in the United States. Compare that to $36500 in the UK.

johnopolo:

"The only square that's applicable here is the prison cell. And what AIDS infected bar girls have to do with this drug mule is beyond me. What can we expect from you next: a bleeding-heart compassion call for the rapists out there ... or the paedophiles. Grief...."

Your comment is disgusting. The Mozambican HIV/AIDS prevalence rate is 16%, and 22% among women aged 20-34. Not surprisingly, the burden of HIV/AIDS falls mainly on women to take care of their sick family members. Correlation?

frankold:

"Finding a 9 to 5 job that pays the going rate doesn't provide a salary nowadays? Plenty of girls working in 7/11 in Bangkok or elsewhere have children and parents to care for. Most of the prostitution over here is done thru greed and laziness."

A) In Mozambique, nearly 90% of the economically active women work in agriculture. Of the other 430,000 women, about 160,000 received a wage. The share of women in wage employment in non-agricultural sector was nearly 20%. Coincidentaly, 90% of the population also lives on less than $2 a day -- less than one of the Changs you drank while writing your post. Do you speak Thai? Do you know the families? Do you *really* care? Pardonnez mon Francais, but &lt;deleted&gt; please.

Get off of your ivory towers! -- or your plastic barstools, whichever is more fitting. With all your privileges, like internet access (1% of Mozambique's population has internet access), maybe you should have considered doing a bit of research ala Google before opening your traps. As a compassionate citizen of Thailand, I implore the aforementioned to take their malignant cynicism back to wherever it is that they came from. We're better off.

Bon voyage!

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it is ridiculous as is the fact that the corrupt Abhisit government already been found guilty for taking a few hundred million to much in party contributions still has not been gotten out of power. Shooting 88 people , err, terrorists I mean

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I'm also very sorry you like to be so rude about Thailand. Especially sorry you seem to like telling lies.

1. The Abhisit government has not been found guilty of taking a few hundred millions of baht. The case against the Democrats you might refer to was dismissed in court.

2. The government didn't shoot 88 people, not even the army shot 88 people. You seem to forget the police/army personel killed by grenade attacks, the lady at BTS Saladaeng, etc. who are included in the total tally of 90/91.

Now back to the real topic here "Children under 18 to face curfew"

1) I was there -- and there were certainly people getting shot. We must have been shooting ourselves, us silly prai. 2) Of course it was dismissed in court.

I think the guy's trying to make a statement, not a factual argument. Lies? Read up on your Thai history, or read something not published by the state.

This would be laughable if it weren't so pathetic. Love to hear the PM explain this is was this announced by some rogue cop? Unbelievable.

So I would guess that your thinking is the young adults or children are better off roaming the streets late at night. Force the parents to get off there dead ars and pick up there kid from the police station and explain why there 15 year old was on the street at 1:00 AM. Your right it is pathetic only because some people think this is all laughable.

With some estimates placing up to "800,000 minors under the age of 18" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand) in Thailand's sex trade, you can be sure that impacted parties will have their investments locked up safely in their brothels.

Keep problems behind closed doors.

Hail the Great Leader!

So what will result of all this turmoil? I used to strongly question my decision to ditch medical school in Canada to pursue family land business on Samui, and to study economics at Chulalongkorn instead.

I will say, I was an illegal 19/20-year old teacher in Thailand for well over a year -- without a work permit OR a fake degree -- until my citizenship situation got sorted out several months ago. (Although I was born on Samui, I didn't get citizenship because I wasn't "Thai enough;" at my time of birth, you could only hold citizenship if your father was Thai -- the workings of a previous, just-as-stupid, and mysogenist neo-national junta). I used to work in all of those low-paying junk jobs at bilingual and wish-they-were-International schools, and can say, for one, that yes, Thailand needs to revamp their education system. Paedophilles, racists, and plumbers that can't spell plumber surely have nothing to invest in my country excepting a couple bahts every Friday for an all-you-can-Chang at the Cathouse and a hooker.

However, the changes that will take place will most certainly not be in the form of pay-rises tempting an influx of young, energetic, and qualified Western teachers. Instead, keeping sufficiency in mind, the non-elite Thai schools will simply hire Filipinos: they have degrees, there's lots of them, and they'll work for peanuts. Unfortunately, in my dealings with Thai students in Thai (I speak read and write -- apparently it makes me less desirable as a candidate), I can conclude that most of them cannot understand what it is that those Filipinos are saying. Perhaps being able to speak, read, and write in grammatically, situationally appropriate, comprehensible English should be the new requirement, maybe even with a TEFL attached. That would seem reasonable, given the 20-50K pay.

Given that I now have citizenship (and out of those schools), I'm homefree. However, there's also the issue of land-retention rights and the future of foreign investment in Thailand, which is a major concern to the family: we deal in land-development. But as it looks, foreign investment, no matter what the outcome, is here to stay. Why all the panic? Certainly, a country with three mainstays -- coconut trees, tourists and dimebag gogo-girls, can't afford to cut their own throats.

So, no matter how stupid the people responsible for the New Year's bombings, be assured that they know Thailand can't afford to clean up its image up that much. The struggle is over who owns the wallet, not who fills it: both sides like to keep their pockets lined, and the profits reeled in on Samui, Phuket and elsewhere are too large to be risked at whole. Thailand's been through this on average every 10 years -- it's the same old dirt road, walked on by lots of flip-flops. Constitution ammendments will only change whose rich hands are in power. Poor people will still be poor, rich people will still most certainly be rich, farangs will still be farangs, and whores will be whores. To all the illegal teachers: "Good luck next time." To investors: nothing's new, and keeping it Thai, "Jai-yen yen..."

Cheers,

Cathouse, 4 o'clock, Friday...

Lucas