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11 hours ago, logres212 said:

In Australia if a conviction is 10 years or more ago and the time served is 30 months or less, the conviction is considered "spent" and is sealed and can only be viewed by applying to a Australian court. So a conviction wouldn't be visible on looking at a normal data base by immigration or police.( there are some exceptions)  Check Aus. Government website for full info.

That is not the case anymore for current sex offenders. It stays there for life, and so it should. But still he will be with people at all times and only there for 4 days. He tried to get a clearance to work in a soup kitchen a few months ago and was not able to get it. His job would be in the kitchen, not with the public that visited the soup kitchen and its been 13 years now and they still knocked him back.

9 hours ago, Russell17au said:

Unless he is listed on the International Sex Offenders Register through Interpol then I would say he has no problem, but he must remember that even if he has a valid visa he can still be refused entry at the entry point by the IO the same as anyone else can be

He does not know if he is our not. He does not need to tell the police when he moves address or has new car rego details like some sex offenders.

12 hours ago, catman20 said:

not worth speaking to a lawyer or immigration in your home country?

That is what I am trying to find out. If we can go to the Embassy and explain the case they may approve the visit.

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

With respects your brother is a convicted sex attacker. It's not like a complaint was made, and nothing was found out and it went away. He was not a child - he was an adult, with the responsibilities of adulthood. He chose to make the sexual assault. Describing it merely as a 'complaint' is insulting and derogatory to the 'adult victim' he attacked.  I'm sure her relatives would not describe it as just a complaint !! People don't go to prison for 'mild' sexual assault. 

 

That said, I am a believer in people moving on after stupid mistakes, so assuming he is not on - or has now been removed off - some sex register that prevents travel he is welcome here. I know people who have similar convictions and they have had no problems entering Thailand.

Complaint was made meaning who made the complaint. Given my brothers and I broke 3 of his ribs and jaw for this, you now think I'm insulting his ex-girlfriend just because of how I worded my OP.

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

If he is on a sex offender watch list he will not be allowed to enter.

We are in Australia. But when he moved address or gets a new car rego he does not have to report it like others have to, so we are not sure of his status.

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Apparently the USA puts sexual offenders on a watchlist and puts this information in the passport. How about Australia?

No idea because I have never had a record and my brother has never had a passport. He has applied and is waiting. My old passport has nothing on it about police records but I need a new one as it has not been used for many years.

9 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

well done US. OP, it seems your brother may have a problem coming here

**or maybe not. that is specifically paedos

3 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

do you mind giving him a quick slap from me too : )

Yes because we broke 3 of his ribs and jaw. He has paid his price. Now like us with him, time to move on. :)

8 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

well done US. OP, it seems your brother may have a problem coming here

**or maybe not. that is specifically paedos

It was with his ex girlfriend who is an Adult.

21 minutes ago, 007 RED said:

OP…. Your brother does not need to declare his criminal offence if he applies for a tourist visa.  In fact as an Australian citizen he is eligible for Visa Exempt – that is to say he does not need to obtain a visa from the Thai Embassy/Consulate in Australia, he just arrives at the airport, gives his passport to that immigration officer, who will then allow him to stay in the Kingdom for 30 days (free of charge).

 

Regarding your comments about another post concerning the refusal to allow another person from the USA to enter the kingdom because he allegedly had a criminal record, I would ignore. 

 

A lot of paranoia and people jumping to all sorts of wrong conclusions.  There is no indication from the original poster as to what offence he was convicted of.  2 months in jail is very unlikely to be a sex offence. Law enforcement agencies around the world don’t routinely share information about people who have been convicted of not wearing a seatbelt or any other offence.

 

Hope your brother gets to the wedding.

 

PS... Tell your brother - if the immigration officer askes him do you have a criminal record - smile nicely and say Who me?

Thank you. I in boxed you but since seen your replies here. Thank you for your time and info. And thank you for not abusing me because of my brothers past. He done the crime, he done the time and me and my 3 other brothers flogged the shit out of him for it and then moved on. :)

20 hours ago, 007 RED said:

Thai immigration does not have direct access to any other countries immigration or national security databases.  Likewise, other countries do not have access to Thai immigration or security databases.  Information is shared on a need to know basis, as and when appropriate and this is normally done via diplomatic channels.

 

I suspect, that on this occasion the IO just threw the question ‘out of the blue’.  When the passenger answered yes, the next obvious question would have been what offence(s) you were convicted of.  Depending upon the answer, the IO would have referred the matter to a senior officer for further investigation and a decision regarding entry.

 

FYI – The Immigration Act B.E. 2522, Section 12 states:  Aliens which fall into any of the following categories are excluded from entering into the Kingdom:

 

Section 12(6) states:  Having been imprisoned by the judgement of the Thai Court; or by a lawful injunction; or by the judgement of the Court of foreign country, except when the penalty is for a petty offense or negligence or is provided for as an exception in the Ministerial Regulations.

 

Section 12(7).   Having behaviour which would indicated possible danger to the public or likelihood of being a nuisance or constituting any violence to the peace or safety of the public or to the security of the public or to the security of the nation, or being under warrant of arrest by competent officials of foreign governments.

 

Section 12(8).   Reason to believe that entrance into the Kingdom was for the purpose of being involved in prostitution, the trading of woman of children, drug smuggling, or other types of smuggling which are contrary to the public morality.

 

Without additional information it is impossible to say why the IO made the decision to refuse entry.

So if someone has an sexual assault record, can they apply to be allowed in? We have been invited to a wedding and my brother did time in 2005 for sexual assault as claimed by his ex-girlfriend (Adult) No other records and no convictions since. Would you think it would be wise for him to visit the Thai Embassy in Australia before booking a plane ticket. He has never had a passport before so I do not know if this would of been put into the Interpol system or not.  Is that above info for tourist or people wishing to live/work there or for everyone??

19 hours ago, SpeakeasyThai said:

As an honest law abiding ex pat living in Thailand, I am fed up meeting lawless ex pats with criminal history, problems and mental baggage that they bring to Thailand. They end up bringing their problems with them and thus, creating problems for the rest of us. Your 'friend' should stay in America where he belongs. He is America's problem, not ours.

 

Well done Thai immigration. 

Once a crim always a crim and people never change right? The only difference between you and him is that you have never been caught. Have you never broken any law ever?

19 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

i was only joking. couldn't resist it. he doesnt need to go to the embassy. as i said in between my piss taking, they don't check criminal records to enter Thailand

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I'm going to Thailand soon. After reviews for Travel Insurance, who you used, prices etc. This is for an Australian resident.

5 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

i was only joking. couldn't resist it. he doesnt need to go to the embassy. as i said in between my piss taking, they don't check criminal records to enter thailand

Thank you. But 13 years of piss taking does get to me given I did not do the crime. he did the crime and he did the time and he got a good flogging from me and my other brothers for it. Now we have moved on. :)

5 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

for what exactly? he doesn;t need a criminal record check as said already

I meant the Thai Embassy. Someone else has posted in the site that they got refused entry for a crime from 25 years ago and much lesser crime. They visited Thailand before then when they went back they got refused entry.

5 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

your nonsy brother doesn't need to worry. he doesn't need a criminal record check to enter thailand (unfortunately) 555

Whatever <deleted>. Sad world when family get judged because of other family members but I'm use to it now. Just shows how low some people really are, needing to make yourself feel better do you be attacking others.

4 minutes ago, toughlove said:

Not sure what visas are available these days but if you want to be absolutely sure then go to the thai consulate. It will cost more but no way they can refuse him when he arrives
Peace of mind I guess

Thank you. Should I get him to visit the Australian Embassy first to make sure?

4 minutes ago, tonray said:

Is he listed as a 'sex offender" ? Is he is...he may be on a list shared by the US and Thailand

Australia so I think it is the same as the US. As for what they class him as, I have no idea but he does not need to notify police when he changes his address or car ego details like some do.

4 minutes ago, isaanbanhou said:

I suspect he did prison time for sexual assault as he was convicted of sexual assault no because an ex -girlfriend (adult) made a complaint.

Yes I have made it clear that it was what he done time for.

5 minutes ago, toughlove said:

Lots of Info on Google. Short answer is no problem

https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forums/asia-thailand/thailand/travelling-to-thailand-with-a-criminal-record

Yes we have searched but yet to find any about this sort of crime. Plus a post on this site said someone was refused last year for a lesser crime over 25 years ago and this guy had visited before. Thank you for this new link, I will check it out.

My family have been invited to a wedding in Thailand. My brother did time in prison in 2005 for sexual assault as his ex-girlfriend (adult) made a complaint.

Will he be allowed to visit Thailand.

He has never had a passport but is applying for one. He has no other record and has not been charged with any crimes since then.

Will he need to declare this information or will they already have it in their system. Will he be refused entry when he turns up.

It seems pointless flying there just to be turned around.

Should he contact the Thai Embassy in Australia before going to make sure he can visit.

NO NEED FOR ABUSIVE COMMENTS THANK YOU.