IsaanFam

On 10/29/2018 at 1:45 AM, elviajero said:

They are only stopping people trying to stay long term as tourists. Those people (me in the past) have got away with it for years and can’t really complain when the system gets enforced.

 

You said they are trying to make it harder for everyone, which they aren’t.

I think you are wrong, because one thing leads to another, especially as most of Thais regard us as tourists, irrespectively of which visa one may hold.

15 hours ago, Thailand J said:

I have checked into the 5 years Elite visa long time ago , if i remember right you need to exit and re enter Thailand once a year. You are over staying if you have not been out of Thailand since you got the Elite visa about one and the half year ago.

 

I thought it was possible to extend that visa within Thailand, ie. without exiting and re-entering the country?

Thanks for your feedback. Just to add for people unsure, you do not need a yellow book or any residency certificate to get this 90 day visa in Vientiane. 

Nice about the 100 THB you paid from the Thai Consulate to the Border, I pay always 300 THB, always and it never bothered me.

And about the checking you waited 2 hours...  it is really not necessary. The guys at the table even make a quick check if you ask them if they think all ok.

9 hours ago, grollies said:

That's pretty sad.

I know some people are more equal than others, otherwise you wouldn't call it sad that I oppose inequality. 

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Thats interesting to learn...  would you go into a little more detail? how did the BiB (in Thailand?) rig the test?

 

Its good advice to have any test followed up at a hospital in the event of a false positive. 

I read a book about a prison escape in Thailand, the guy stated that the cops put some dope into his car and tried to extort couple million bahts which he refused to pay followed by a transfer to Hilton.

These things happen, especially in tourist areas. Just think of how many ways there are to make money, and hiring a guy selling dope to a foreigner and then arrest him to get money is one of many things in their repertoire of scams.

Why get angry about the "slow drivers". If you check the speed limit you will notice that they just following the law. If it makes you angry just buy a car with more power and you will never really notice anyone blocking your way.

13 minutes ago, toolpush said:

And you can add to the fact that so-called HiSo Thais in their Benz's and BMW's always drive in the speed lane because they are entitled too and it doesn't matter what speed they drive

I pass many BMW/Mercedes and they normally drive 90 and on the left side. 

On 5/26/2018 at 10:31 AM, possum1931 said:

and what if they jump the queue in front of you, do you let them because you are farang? 

 

Normally I just show them my dick and this solves the issue. 

On 5/25/2018 at 7:16 PM, Dmaxdan said:

I don't think the class system in Thailand is really that different from anywhere else. If you're a pot bellied, Chang swilling Farang, with a tattooed bar girl on your arm then you're hardly going to gain any respect from the Thai hierarchy. People of a high social status can spot others a mile off, whether you're Thai or otherwise. I'm willing to bet that if a Farang is clearly from a high social group then the equivalent Thais will have no issues welcoming them into their own circles. Anyone who believes otherwise clearly thinks their social status is higher than it actually is.
At the end of the day, loss of face just amounts to being afraid of admitting you're in the wrong of at fault. This is a big flaw in Thai culture. So, if you're like me and big enough to hold your hands up and apologise when you know of think you're at fault then you won't go far wrong.
I spend way more time mixing with Thai people than my fellow Farangs, and in every case they have bent over backwards to make me feel welcome almost to the point that it becomes embarrassing. So don't listen to the cynics who say you will never be excepted in Thai society.
Clearly the problem is with them, not the Thai people.



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The funny part of this is that Thais are really super serious about the hierarchy. Over time I have made multiple encounters based on this principle. Flip flops vs dressed nicely. They treat you very differently. 

In Isaan, everybody comes to me and talks to me. But only if I wear shorts and flip flops. If I wear my regular clothing, ie long sleeve, long chinos, nobody seems to want to talk with me.

On 5/25/2018 at 7:16 PM, Dmaxdan said:

I don't think the class system in Thailand is really that different from anywhere else. If you're a pot bellied, Chang swilling Farang, with a tattooed bar girl on your arm then you're hardly going to gain any respect from the Thai hierarchy. People of a high social status can spot others a mile off, whether you're Thai or otherwise. I'm willing to bet that if a Farang is clearly from a high social group then the equivalent Thais will have no issues welcoming them into their own circles. Anyone who believes otherwise clearly thinks their social status is higher than it actually is.
At the end of the day, loss of face just amounts to being afraid of admitting you're in the wrong of at fault. This is a big flaw in Thai culture. So, if you're like me and big enough to hold your hands up and apologise when you know of think you're at fault then you won't go far wrong.
I spend way more time mixing with Thai people than my fellow Farangs, and in every case they have bent over backwards to make me feel welcome almost to the point that it becomes embarrassing. So don't listen to the cynics who say you will never be excepted in Thai society.
Clearly the problem is with them, not the Thai people.



Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect

The funny part of this is that Thais are really super serious about the hierarchy. Over time I have made multiple encounters based on this principle. Flip flops vs dressed nicely. They treat you very differently. 

In Isaan, everybody comes to me and talks to me. But only if I wear shorts and flip flops. If I wear my regular clothing, ie long sleeve, long chinos, nobody seems to want to talk with me.

On 5/25/2018 at 5:56 PM, jackdd said:

As others said before, unless you look like a Thai nothing is expected from you, you never "fit in"

So for a foreigner it's quite easy:

You greet anybody with a sawas dee khab, but you only "wai" people who are friends / family and who are older than you (if friends / family who are younger than you "wai" you first you can "wai" back but it's not expected). Always talk polite with everybody. If you stick to this you can't do anything wrong.

I never wai because I am never will be and want to be part of their hierarchy construction because I abhor inequality of human blood. If you want to be yourself, never wai.

On 5/25/2018 at 2:54 PM, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said:

Where do you fit in Thai social order? If you are you a Farang then you are lower than a convicted Thai child molestor on death row, even a rabbed dog in the street. Could have been a reincarnated Thai.

Then coelenterate worms of a latrine.

Then Africans and Indians.

“White privilege”

 

I think it's wrong. We are not part of the social class, we are outsiders. This means, we are not classed as anybody in this society and this gives us freedom to treat everybody with the respect we want to give them. And I really love it because if everybody is wai'ing and bending over a specific guy you can just walk to him and tell him that the weather's great.

How much did you pay?

Why not contact a lawyer? I mean, if you are keen enough to pay 40,000 THB or whatever the amount was, why not hire a lawyer and ask him for his advice and pay some money and then ask him if you can pay him double that in case the police stops you for a urine test you can call him. If it's a Sino-Thai lawyer with pictures of his papa high up the wall as a judge or whatever, it would be really possible that you can call him at the next event and get some real help. Only for the affluent of course who can pay 40k for such an offence.

In short, better call Saul. 

10 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

The mother of your child does not need to be present when you apply for an extension based upon being the parent of a Thai. Only your child needs to be with you.

Oh really, sounds nice. Good info, thanks.

I have prepared these documents:

- 2 copies of: ID card of my son

- 2 copies of: Thai passport of my son

- 2 copies of: blue book with name of my son

- 2 copies of: birth certificate of my son

- my passport + 2 copies of it

- 4 passport pictures of me

- the legalization documents showing me as the "registered" father

- 400,000 in a bank account in my name

Do you think they are sufficient or do I need to have anything of these copies signed by the mother?

On 3/19/2018 at 9:14 AM, ubonjoe said:

You can only get a single entry non-o visa at Vientiane. It does not matter whether you are the legal father or not.

You can apply for a one year extension of stay based upon being the parent of a Thai at the designated immigration office for where you are living. The 60 day extension to visit your child would also have to be applied for at the designated office.

You could also apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) at immigration. You would have to have the 400k baht in a Thai bank in your name only on the date you appy. You would need at least 15 days remaining on your current entry or the 30 day extension of it. You could also get the 60 day extension and then apply for the non immigrant visa.

Hello, I have got a question, now I have the Non-O 90 days visa because of my child and I am planning to get the 1 year extension, but my gf/mother of my child is currently in Europe and will come back a bit late for applying the extension (yeah, really badly planned). Is it possible to go to the immigration with all the paper work (ie, signed housebook, id cards, birth certificate, legalization of the child) without the mother?

18 hours ago, samsensam said:

 

generally genuine tourists dont have any problems. it seems people who seek to use tourist visas and VEs to stay in the country long term who have issues; are such people genuine tourists?

Only because you cannot think of people with enough money to be tourists 24/7 doesn't mean they don't exist.

On 5/8/2018 at 11:44 AM, kenk24 said:

Tends to depend on the financial status of the family - - a Thai friend of mine, thai/thai had to build a 15MM baht home and this was about 15 years ago.... I have seen Thai/thai pay 1MM baht... 

If he had the money and got the virgin he wanted, why not?

4 hours ago, Tony125 said:

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/opinion/2018/05/11/opinion-when-in-rome-or-bangkok-dress-the-part/

 

For our visiting friends puzzled by or indifferent to this, allow me to voice some Thai sentiments. Outward appearance for a Thai is extremely important. This is how Thais think when confronted with such low-end tourists dressing disrespectfully. It’s acceptable to dress as described when you are in Pattaya or Koh Samui, complete with a beer cooler in one hand and a holiday partner in the other. But city life is another matter.

We are highly concerned about our appearance. It defines who we are in our class hierarchy. Observe the 7am public transport scene on either a local bus or the BTS: office workers dressed immaculately, both men and women equally fashionable. In the evening time, inside low-end street bars, local restaurants or high-end fancy hotels find much the same: We are a nation proud of our style and fashion.

Like the guy in every soi with his t-shirt high showing his belly.

So Thai Immigration just doing racial profiling - rightfully so? I think yes, as we know who's trouble back home.

How did it end?

Could lead into a developing story with all that pictures posted or it will be just forgotten. In most European countries you violated already some laws by posting pictures of faces. I think Thailand has similar laws. Even if you helped, you are probably breaking now the law yourself. If you are so concerned you should have taken that matter to the next authority or just for a starter here http://www.1111.go.th

This is now just gambling, could be either you be still that hero later on or even the girl will be saying you did something, ie you smashed their motorbike which led into an accident. Everything is possible to let the participants save their face. Let's hope it turns out well for you and this post and pictures will be ignored by big brother.

So what did he steal?

The wage is much higher than we think but much less in reality. It is really a boosting economy, if you travel to a European country and then Thailand, you know where the growth is. The people earning 7-15,000 THB are the unskilled workers (and yes, for a pop of nearly 70 million, the unskilled work force is probably 30-40 million). Nowadays a Thai can easily get 20,000-30,000 THB. The median is around 20,000 THB + you have many households which have 2-3 earners. Thailand's economy is really going good and has a growing middle class, the wages for skilled work reflect that.

Some real life examples:

Gardener, Phuket: 9,000 THB

Security Guard, Phuket, 8,000 THB

Live-in Maid, Phuket: 15,000 THB

Tesco staff, OT, Chonburi: 14,000 THB

Factory (some medical stuff) / OT, 16,000 THB

Factory (some cables) / OT, 18,000 THB

Construction Foreman, Phuket: 30,000 THB

Receptionist, Phuket: 22,000 THB
Dentist (hired) + Commission, BKK: 40,000 THB

Also, this. Purchasing power $3.7 - compare it to Malaysia or Philipines. https://www.statista.com/statistics/274326/big-mac-index-global-prices-for-a-big-mac/