Matptg

29 minutes ago, MuntyC0re said:

well I think it's not a problem

Thank you

Hi everyone,

we just went to the gym, he asked forgiveness to the clerk for what he did and thank the girl for not calling out the police. He only asked me no to take off his sunglasses during it. At the end of it he gave a tip to the girl too.

Thank you all for your thoughts. 

15 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Nonsense.  A customer can not steal from a minibar.  In every hotel I have stayed, upon checking out, the front desk sends housekeeping to the room in order to take inventory and then the final bill is tallied.

 

You seem to think that it was no big deal from your posts

 

”Sometime to learn you need to wrong”  

 

So one needs to steal in order to learn it is wrong?  ?

 

”I would classify the act as an harmless thing”

 

’nuff said

 

 

if you stay in an hotel and a customer "forget" to mention the beverage it got during the last night, let it be. If I chase a customer and catch it had something from the minibar that it didn't declare we may make it feeling uncomfortable and the said customer may badly review the hotel in other regards (bad customer service, no decent breakfast etc...) and this review can potentially cause a loss of money (someone who wants to book the hotel reads the review and decide at the end not to because of the bad feedback). Harmless thing yes, stealing is never good, sometime you have to go through it to understand it. No talking about this any more

34 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Please let us know which hotel you manage.  I certainly wouldn’t want to stay in a hotel where the manager “just turn a blind eye” to theft.

This comment is out of place and has nothing to do with the topic. Just to let you know any way, I turn an eye blind when I know a customer steals a bottle from the minibar or in that range, or when an employee steals some food from the breakfast room. Of course if something from the room would be missing I would take the thing seriously.

8 hours ago, Jonmarleesco said:

Has it occurred to you to take him to task and punish him yourself, rather than simply trying to establish whether he is in any further trouble?

Today I'll take him back to the gym to apologie for what he did. And to make him to thank them for not putting him in further trouble which can cause here to be jailed

8 hours ago, Jonmarleesco said:

Has it occurred to you to take him to task and punish him yourself, rather than simply trying to establish whether he is in any further trouble?

5 hours ago, Wake Up said:

We all have made stupid mistakes in judgment. This could turn out to be a good lesson for him without heavy consequences.  I am a firm believer that good people sometimes do stupid things and regret it and don’t repeat it. If the club wanted anything else they would have called the police IMO. 

Totally agree. He's a good boy, well mannered, with 2 parents that taught him the right pattern to follow. Just made the wrong thing out of curiosity/stupidity. I am sure he learned the lesson 

5 hours ago, Wake Up said:

We all have made stupid mistakes in judgment. This could turn out to be a good lesson for him without heavy consequences.  I am a firm believer that good people sometimes do stupid things and regret it and don’t repeat it. If the club wanted anything else they would have called the police IMO. 

Totally agree. He's a good boy, well mannered, with 2 parents that taught him the right pattern to follow. Just made the wrong thing out of curiosity/stupidity. I am sure he learned the lesson 

43 minutes ago, watcharacters said:

 

Where did he say the gym belonged to an hotel?

 

yes the gym belongs to an hotel, stands on the fourth floor of it,time to time I go there too

3 minutes ago, denby45 said:

Seems to me it was not just the bells which were dumb.

 

 

Den

don't understand this statement

16 minutes ago, TerryLH said:

It didn't sound like that from your original post.

yep, actually as mentioned before stealing is really a bad action that can lead small realities into ruin. But I also believe that every case has to be evaluated in itself. As I told in the previous post, I work in the hospitality field where small thefts happen every day, from customers and employees. Sometime, just turn blind your eye, that's it. Like the gym management did actually, they just waited for him to go back and ask for the payment. In that situation his behaviour was ok and they just took him back home and ask to get paid. No police, no burocracy, no harm

1 minute ago, PatOngo said:

Except of course if you are an official in authority, you buy the job and it is quite normal to steal. Send your relative to an inactive post for a month and everything will be ok. 

Stealing is never good. Even the smallest one can break a business down. I am hotel manager and have to deal with small losses everyday. It's a lesson. 

50 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

Since they handled it sooo nicely - I would say they are not likely to pursue it further. I would go back to the gym and thank them profusely, maybe bring them a gift - - and then take your relative to a Thai jail to show him what he was risking... 

Gosh reading so many that went to jail for minor crimes like this. The handled it nicely yes. I think no risk any more simce they now know where I live amd no one showed up.

He learned the lesson

29 minutes ago, Toknarok said:

        Many kids do stupid things. How many of you can honestly say that when you were young you didn't shoplift some petty article. I did once and got caught, taught me a lesson that's for sure. Never did it again  

       Seems to me this kid is ashamed of what he did. One petty theft is not an indicator that he will be a serial thief all his life.

Precisely. It is said that sooner or later you have to pass through everything. As long as the police wasn't called it will be fine. They wanted to get paid, they did. I think among all the thefts occured in the kingdom those that have been reported are the ones that somehow gave troubles after being caught

33 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Was it dumb bell end.?

Don t understand.

Could you be clearer?

4 minutes ago, Petchou said:

Send him back home.   He is showing the potential to  do the wrong things  here.   Just matter of time to  see him. Doing  something  worst. 

I think we are getting things bigger than what it actually is. He wronged. Simple. But from here to say he's going to do something worst there is an abyss in between. Sometime to learn you need to wrong. That's it. And in a couple of weeks he'll leave anyway therefore...

5 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Dump the relative - sounds like an accident just waiting to happen.

 

 It does not sound like he opened up to you and said what he'd done by your comments - he only seemed bothered when the security came back with him. He could quite easily have said 'look i took this from the gym, come with me today and lets pay for it". no the deceitful toad just went back like he'd done nothing. If there was no cctv he'd  have got away with it. Thief mindset.

I would classify the act as an harmless thing. He never did it before and I think he just wanted to feel cool in somehow by breaking the rule. Small thefts many people have been through. I know the law in Thailand takes everything serious when it comes to theft but however I believe deporting or banning a person to enter the kingdom for a small crime it is way too much. Anyway, he regrets what he's done. The debt has been paid and supposedely the gym didn't take any action for it ( they know where I live, I believe the police would have already showed up otherwise)

1 hour ago, laurenstones said:

100%

100% that nothing else should happen to him? I know the world is big but being banned from a country isn't this pleasurable

10 minutes ago, varun said:

Money's been paid so that's probably the end of it.

 

Do suggest a swift kick in the pants for your idiotic young relative.

If he continues on his current path he's in for an extended vacation at the Hilton..the other one.

Thank you. Yes it's what I told to him. He never did actually and maybe he wanted to feel "cool". He learned the lesson amd still feeling so embarassed. To me it's all fine too

15 minutes ago, InMyShadow said:

17 minutes ago, Matptg said:

Hi everyone,
 
I' m new in the forum and your help will be highly appreciated.
 
I've been living in Bkk by an year already and a couple of weeks ago a relative of mine (very young) came to visit me. 
 
He made a monthly subscription to a gym next to my condo and this idiot last Friday has stolen something from the gym. He went back to gym last Monday and the clerk asked him to pay for the stolen thing because they had a footage of him doing it. He had no money in that moment, so the clerk called the security which took him by motorbike to my condo. He paid to the security the amount he owed and the security left immediately after. No police were called. My only concern is that the gym requires your passport to subscribe. Do you guys think he's risking something? I mean, being blacklisted? I repeat, he paid to the security and no police were called. To me it's like from their side is ok.
 
Thank you all for your reviews
 
Matteo

No

Thank you, to me he's out of risk too

11 minutes ago, jackdd said:

99,9% that nothing else will happen

In case he is under 15 he can't be punished anyway

Yes to me sounds like they just wanted to be paid without getting too many troubles. Afyer all the mentioned gym belongs to an hotel

Hi everyone,

I' m new in the forum and your help will be highly appreciated.

I've been living in Bkk by an year already and a couple of weeks ago a relative of mine (very young) came to visit me. 

He made a monthly subscription to a gym next to my condo and this idiot last Friday has stolen something from the gym. He went back to gym last Monday and the clerk asked him to pay for the stolen thing because they had a footage of him doing it. He had no money in that moment, so the clerk called the security which took him by motorbike to my condo. He paid to the security the amount he owed and the security left immediately after. No police were called. My only concern is that the gym requires your passport to subscribe. Do you guys think he's risking something? I mean, being blacklisted? I repeat, he paid to the security and no police were called. To me it's like from their side is ok.

Thank you all for your reviews

Matteo