SoNowWhat

OMG The pool is closed? 

Maybe do your part and stay home to prevent the spread if the virus? Simple logic always prevails when in doubt. 

Is this a joke post? You expect an airline to let u bring kilos of excess baggage for free so you can play some idiotic game? To add to the already hideous destructiveness of flying on the environment? You think TAT should pay you to play golf?

5 hours ago, Pilotman said:

Civil partnerships that are legally the equivalent to marriage, absolutely right.  'Marriage', well it depends on what you believe to be the definition of marriage.  This is a very personal view,  and in my mind its nothing to do with religion, but to me, 'marriage' is between a man and a woman, not same sex couples. This is also controversial, but I believe that adoption, and indeed parenthood,  should be restricted to married couples.  Kids need the balance of a male and female partnership to foster their own development and growth. Again, I realise that this is not a view shared by many others. 

So all single parented kids are a mess? I think its 2020 not 1950. Pretty much these days families come in all shapes and sizes...just like people.

22 hours ago, digbeth said:

you can't police peeing and spitting in pools, but if someone spit or <deleted> or leave any bodily fluids let alone fart in an elevator, you should be able to tell

Peeing in a pool will not spread Corona virus. The pools are closed to avoid congregation and encourage people to stay in because the is no place to go.

On 3/30/2020 at 12:34 PM, bkk6060 said:

Well, I bet people with HIV have died from it.

If they did not have HIV probably a much bigger chance to live.

So, I would say HIV was the cause.

Well once again the brain power of Thaivisa experts might just light up an LED. Currently there is no evidence to suggest people living with HIV on medication are at any greater risk of Covid-19 complications. The same factors that increase complications hold true for everyone.

And a survey... precious.

On 11/18/2019 at 11:18 AM, Jane Dough said:

On 11/18/2019 at 8:43 AM, ezzra said:

one will do well to keep away as far as possible from dealing or coming close to any of the above groups, nasty piece of works they are...

Dear ezzra, I give exactly the same advice about serial posters on THAIVISA. Have a nice day.

3 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Letting nature take its course, what someone wants and what nature wants are two different things, nature wins every time when it comes to the hardware.

Yes let nature take its course...now please hand over your LIPITOR and VIAGRA.

Yep right.

On 5/23/2019 at 4:30 PM, bkk6060 said:

Well, not exactly.

Transmission of herpes or HPV genital warts are possible via happy ending.

Next time, Better make sure you have condom or they are wearing a glove with plenty of lube to be 100 percent sure.

And you could also win the lottery...get struck by lightning...duet with Taylor Swift...buy an ostrich...don't worry enjoy your handjobs the chance of anything happening is a crazyillion to 3:62.5

5 hours ago, sanemax said:

5 hours ago, mommysboy said:

 

Did you misunderstand ?

If you have unprotected sex with a HIV+ woman , your chance of contracted the disease from her is a probability of 2 %

  If you has sex with her 50 times , the probability would be 50 x 2 %

Well I see you are still are having problems with math.

And I think I know why...

Try to GOOGLE...HIV transmission rates...and those numbers you keep clumsily trying to leverage are highlighted at the top of the page...however a careful thorough  reading (its only a sentence so the mind boggles) indicates 'of up to 2%'. If u look at 'insertive vaginal sex', this chart posts a 0.04 percent chance (assuming that is your preference) from a single exposure. Again there really is no mathematical way to quantify your chances of getting HIV without factoring in the who, what, when, and where...of the sex you are having is considered. And most importantly then you must be having sex with someone who is not on medication that is capable of transmission with a few other factors thrown in. Am I to assume that the THAIVISA community is really that concerned about this? Have you guys ever thought about yoga? fly fishing? knitting? FI driving? Really try to find a hobby...it might help. In the meantime wear condoms or take PrEP and get tested regularly. 

8 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Yes, but the more times that you put yourself at risk , the higher the probability of catching it

Yes but that is not what you said. And again HIV infection is much more complicated to figure out. And as you are a prince among men having  limited contact with women outside of the sex industry why are you here? Why does this interest you? Count yourself lucky and fare thee well.

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Yes, every encounter would be 2 %

If you times that 2 % by 50 , that would give the possibility of 100 %

I will assume you have done a quick search and discovered this to be false. This is not how probability and statistics work. Math gurus help out here.

And again just because you have sex with someone who is HIV positive does not mean you will get it yourself. There are lots and lots of variables when you spin the big wheel of HIV transmission. Who, where, how, and when you have sex determines your probability which would need to be figured out individually. And while the chances of you getting HIV are actually low...it could happen on your first go or your 1000th. Hope that you are at least getting tested regularly. 

I'm taking a break this is exhausting. 

48 minutes ago, SoNowWhat said:

Oh then tell us doctor just exactly how does HIV usually enter a person's body? Or outside of IV drug use is it the presence of a tear/cut/opening/wound/laceration/abrasion/microabrasion to a mucous membrane occurring during sex?

 

https://www.catie.ca/en/pif/fall-2011/exposure-infection-biology-hiv-transmission

 

As I said 'there are a few reasons' why circumcision helps prevent HIV transmission and actually the mechanism is not fully understood and is still being studied.

But in the meantime...microabrasions on penises...sorry for those of you having breakfast.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3543106/

 

http://i-base.info/guides/testing/what-are-the-routes-of-infection

 

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2017.00241/full

 

 

Sorry over edited myself...should read:

'Or outside of IV drug use is it the presence of a tear/cut/opening/wound/laceration/abrasion/microabrasion or contact with a mucous membrane occurring during sex.'

3 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

Absolute rot. Micro abrasions? If you knew anything about HIV you would know it takes a lot more than a "micro abrasion" to contract HIV. Many of your remarks have been questionable. You certainly don't sound like a medical professional to me and shouldn't be masquerading as one. 

Oh then tell us doctor just exactly how does HIV usually enter a person's body? Or outside of IV drug use is it the presence of a tear/cut/opening/wound/laceration/abrasion/microabrasion to a mucous membrane occurring during sex?

https://www.catie.ca/en/pif/fall-2011/exposure-infection-biology-hiv-transmission

As I said 'there are a few reasons' why circumcision helps prevent HIV transmission and actually the mechanism is not fully understood and is still being studied.

But in the meantime...microabrasions on penises...sorry for those of you having breakfast.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3543106/

http://i-base.info/guides/testing/what-are-the-routes-of-infection

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2017.00241/full

30 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

I first visited Pattaya in 1984 and have been a regular visitor for the last 20 years. Do you consider that in all these years it's not unlikely that I've known three people who've got Aids in Thailand and died of it.

 

There must easily have been tens of thousands of 'em seeing as Aids has so far killed 35 million people worldwide.

Well I think I will take the other guys advice and ignore you.  If they died it was because they refused medication. The idea that you found out through 'common knowledge' that three random people you met on miscellaneous visits to Pattaya over the course of 15 years died from HIV is well...(insert your own opinion).

And when you said:

'These three have all gone in the last 15 years so make up your own mind if there really is a treatment that can arrest this disease.' 

It let's me know that you won't believe any facts that you personally don't believe.

https://www.avert.org/living-with-hiv/starting-treatment

2 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

There was a major study over 2 years I think.... results due out some time ago but at the time it was believed there were no know cases of an infection from a person on properly taken meds.

Gold stars for you...there have been several recent studies OPPOSITES ATTRACT/PARTNER 1/PARTNER 2 that have proven that HIV positive people who are on effective treatment are unable to transmit the virus to their partners because they have achieved an 'undetectable viral load'. There is now a scientific consensus that U=U or Undetectable equals Untransmittable.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanhiv/article/PIIS2352-3018(18)30132-2/fulltext

http://i-base.info/partner-study/

http://news.trust.org/item/20180821143040-w7z1s/

1 hour ago, Kenny202 said:

Reason being the virus can only live outside the body for a split second but it can make it's way under the foreskin apparently. Not 100% sure if this is true or not

There a few reasons why but most importantly a circumcised penis has a tougher layer of skin (as it is subjected to more daily 'wear and tear' so is less likely to get microabrasions during intercourse that could allow the transfer of the virus into their body. But otherwise completely correct circumcision lowers risk significantly.

1 hour ago, yogi100 said:

3 hours ago, SoNowWhat said:

If any shred of what you said is true they died because they did not take their medication or were unaware that they were positive which is hard to imagine as you don't just die overnight of AIDS 

Where did I suggest that they did die overnight or did I state that they were known to have Aids prior to death.

Meaning their would have been several serious health problems over time that would have required seeing a doctor who would have recognized the symptoms of advanced HIV and put them on medication immediately. And my question was how did you know they had HIV? 

9 minutes ago, Bang Bang said:

Question for the med types:

How close are they to developing an HIV vaccine? I know about PrEP. But what I mean is a once-and-done jab. Which has to be the next billion dollar drug.

A vaccine is going to be tricky for several reasons and the best guess is 10-X years it really just depends on who you ask. However, long acting injectable treatment is in the works but still on the horizon. Their are several clinical trials currently underway.

Which is a very short way to explain a complex answer and as for those long acting treatments being available in Thailand it is another story. We can all cross our fingers and hope both will arrive soon.

1 hour ago, yogi100 said:

 

These three have all gone in the last 15 years so make up your own mind if there really is a treatment that can arrest this disease.

If any shred of what you said is true they died because they did not take their medication or were unaware that they were positive which is hard to imagine as you don't just die overnight of AIDS and any doctor would immediately know the symptoms. And again where does one find out about the cause of death of someone you have absolutely no relation too? POZ people rarely if ever disclose their status to anyone other than their immediate partners and trust me I will guarantee that someone around you or someone you know is HIV positive and you will never ever know about it because they are too busy leading happy, long, healthy lives. So everyone make sure you are tested regularly if you are sexually active and know that if you do become positive you will be just fine and will carry on with proper treatment.

20 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

Advanced HIV? That seems like a strange terminology? Advanced HIV is AIDs isn't it? I was under the assumption provided treatment was received before CD4 levels fell below 200, you had a good chance of survival and a normal life providing meds were taken religiously every day. Once levels fall between 200 the infection is classed as AIDs and I thought then treatable but will result in an early death. 

 

You guys realise HIV and AIDs are two stages of the virus. Not the same thing. HIV is the first step. AIDs is the second and usually final stage.

Yes the terminology is changing because of the severe stigma attached to AIDS.  The same as the term 'to be HIV infected' is now HIV positive or diagnosed with HIV. And yes as was pointed out earlier HIV and AIDS are not the same thing. HIV without any treatment can lead to a condition commonly referred to as AIDS when CD4 counts fall below 200. This is wholly preventable through regular testing and prompt treatment of HIV. Even after an AIDS/advanced HIV diagnosis most people will return to health.