1dayumay

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

Funny.. half of the people in Thailand will give their right arm to just do the opposite, renounce thai citizenship and become an american, go figure...

Nope, what I find in thais compared to Filipinos are they don’t seems desperate to leave Thailand, while Filipinos will do everything to leave their country

13 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

Political Freedom, oh puhleeze!

That's like saying you actually have free speech in Thailand

Welcome to Thai(LaLa)land

There is no country left with freedom of speech. Look at many western and Northern European countries where the freedom of speech have been stolen Step by step every year.

in uk,Germany,Sweden, Norway and many other countries you can be jailed for just saying something not political correct about Muslims,migrants or black people, but if you are Muslim, migrant or black you can say whatever you want about native citizens.

Thailand, are like this because of the junta.

i have to laugh everytime a <deleted> on this forum criticizing Thailand for being i undemocratic, don’t have freedom of speech or is not a free country, but their home country at least within EU where democracy have been stolen from every nation step by step, countries cracking down on free speech, EU regulations on everything and makes the life complicated and unfree.

mecca of the stupid.

What really amaze me are those people from a EU country complain about democracy in Thailand.

clean your own back yard first.

4 hours ago, lvr181 said:

Sadly, us farangs are dreamers for a better democratic society benefiting the people. 

Yes I which the end of EU and every Europe’s can live in a democratic country like USA, Canada , Australia and New Zealand.

we don’t need open borders, common currency, the parliament in Brussels and unelected bureaucrats.

we can still collaborate together, trade with each other etc etc without EU.

8 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Agree. In regard to Thanathorn:

 

- I understand he speaks good English.

 

- I understand he has a couple of masters degrees.

 

- Is his education outside of Thailand? IMHO this point could 'make the difference'. I doubt that even well educated Thais, who have never studies / lived 'outside' for at least a few years really understand what 'democracy' means in western terms. (But I'm not suggesting that 'western democracy' is perfect).

 

Some years back I often had lunch with a Thai professor who taught political science (he spoke perfect English but had never been outside of Thailand for more than short holidays and he had no education abroad).

 

He liked to talk about Thai politics, his understanding  of democracy was completely different than my understanding of democracy. His version is 'PM should be a rich man to give everybody cash etc.., and the voters should listen and do as they are told.' 

 

He just didn't listen to any discussion points about the electorate having rights, and responsibilities. His response; 'a waste of time and not needed'.

 

He brushed aside my summation of what democracy means (to me) and the pillars of building and maintaining democracy. Other western professors who shared the lunch room tried to share their thoughts with him, he didn't listen, at all.

 

This is why I wonder if Khun Thanathorn has had longer-term immersion in western democracy? Or is his version of democracy the same as we have already seen?

 

 

In USA, Canada, New Zealand and Australia democracy means democracy, so what you are saying in western terms does not include members of the European Union, which is undemocratic.

There are so many dangerous radical lefties on this forum.

most comments are from 2 kinds of people.

#1 the thailand haters, who have a miserable life and can’t afford a better life, move to  another country, or spend your holiday in another country.

#2 the ones that are in denial and only belives in what the media telling them, especially British media wich are faker then a 3 dollar bill.

open your eyes and ears and don’t believe everything you see and hears.

On 9/13/2018 at 9:09 AM, Eric Loh said:

ASEAN doomed as long as Thailand takes the chair. Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore have strong condemnation of the genocide and asked for strong action by UN. Malaysia went as far as calling out that fake Aung  San Suu Kyi for her silence in not condemning her government. 

Because Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia are Muslims  countries of course, that’s why, Muslims backs Muslims.

every brits, France people, Germans and Swedish should know what kind of people many Muslims are, those countries I mention has big problems with Muslims, ignore it and you are in denial.

Just now, 1dayumay said:

Forgot the countries within European Union also.

Just now, 1dayumay said:

Forgot the countries within European Union also.

And and and South Africa where white peoples are being slaughtered daily.

On 9/13/2018 at 6:36 AM, Cadbury said:

Thailand, Cambodia and Myanmar. All birds of a feather when it comes to human rights.

Forgot the countries within European Union also.

10 hours ago, 8OA8 said:

I'll take a guess that the taxi in Aus will have insurance cover to cover any and all forms of injury sustained during their ride.

Taxis here are also injured,if not they are off the road.

typican nanny state trash person.

thank god I’m not from a country where the government control my life..

1 hour ago, AhFarangJa said:

Nice to see the local authorities concern for the welfare of it's workers is in the forefront. Regulation cloth hard hats, and open toed safety boots.

Personal choice how to dress,it’s called freedom.

yes there are pros and cons about it, the cons is if you injure yourself then pay the bill your and swallow the cons.

nobody any where in the world should be told use safety gear.

but we see more and more all over the world the government telling their citizens how to dress and what to do.

2 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Having a bad day dear? everybody is entitled to their opinion, even you.

I enjoy my life, spend a lot of time on here, at this very moment i am lying on my bed, reading the nonsense you have just posted.

That’s your life, thaivisa forum.

get your ass out and do something productive.

cheap Charlie lifestyle..

6 minutes ago, wvavin said:

The others agreed to it is because their level of stupidity is on par with this driver.

Most people that are taking vans are those without a brain and want to arrive fast.

i know many Thais that won’t enter a van because they simply are dangerous drivers behind the wheel

5 minutes ago, manhood said:

At first....there are out in the world 2 images of Thailand : great landscape and islands, great food and also great people

But the other image is corruption, dirty beaches, dangerous for travelling on the roads and by boat,

stupid behavior and aggressive peoole if you confront them with their bad habit....

 

So Thai people have to stop with this stupid "loose face" and stand up against bad and dangerous behaviour. Have civil courage what we get tought from childhood but that's mostly missing in Thai society

That loose face attitude have arrived to the West.

people cannot accept they are wrong.

Lose face is a part of Asia, not only Thailand. One day off you can afford travel, you will soon realize that.

5 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

Typical Thais. They agreed with the driver. 

Typical mr.mistrable with your comment.

read again, take a deep breath and relax.

nowhere are they saying they agreed with the driver.

Sometime I wonder why some people spend so many hours everyday on this forum, can’t they afford to enjoy their life, so they kick their time here spreading there pessimistic attitude.

11 hours ago, Misterwhisper said:

What an arrogant statement.

 

Why don't you go out and ask a few Thai people on the streets whether they share your opinion that 80,000 baht net income per month is "hardly over the top"?

 

An income of 2,100 euros in Europe may be rather on the low side. But here in Thailand it isn't. I would dare say there are few locals upcountry who can boast such a salary.

 

But coming back to Udom: He basically grew up in Thailand, speaks the language fluently, supports a wife and child, has integrated well and (so I assume) lives a rather simple life on a modest Thai income. For all intents and purposes, he has become a local.

 

If the only excuse the Thai government deploys in denying him his citizenship is the outrageous requirement that he must prove three consecutive years of taxed monthly incomes that are a multiple of what the average citizen earns, then it only goes to show the contempt Thailand's authorities have for foreigners, whom they obviously only see as milking cows.

 

If European countries used the same sole yardstick, demanding that Thai people who wanted to gain citizenship had to show taxed incomes that are three or four times higher than what an average European employee makes, there hardly would be any Thai people living in Europe at all, no matter how well adapted and integrated they may have become.

 

And guess who would be first to raise a ruckus over such "unfair" or "racist" treatment? Exactly, it would be the Thai government! 

 

    

You are wrong.

the average salary in European countries after tax “EURO”

Europe isn’t a country, and it will never be, the difference from country to country omg Europe are huge, so speak for the whole continent is only lack of geographical knowledge.

13 hours ago, CiaranKL said:

2000 euro a month

 Hardly over the top.  There are rules and if you wish to be one a citizen then you follow them.  

2000 euro a month is more then the average income in most European countries after tax, so it’s ridiculous.

The ones lives under 45,000 baht are the cheap Charlie brits, who complain and try to bargain on everything..

if you need more,  tell your government to stop wasting money on Muslims and immigrants,so you can get a decent pension to live off.

i have brit “friend” he is super cheap,never gives back money I lend to him, never pay for a drinking round, lives like a rat, but his pension is tiny.

So now we know why they are miserable. 555

NB! I’m talking about the older generation, the younger generation,they are not afraid to spend money and have fun ?

Are thaivisa a platform for miserable/frustrated farang?

don’t get me wrong the help you get here from the thaivisa section etc har a good thing, but all the other sections like pattaya news, Bangkok news, farang-pub-drunk-sexpat forum the seems to have many miserable people or are they frustrated, they complain about everything, don’t you have money to spend so you are sitting here all day comment on every topic? 

if you are unhappy start with yourself, only you can change yourself.

now the poor miserable people will make fun of I’m telling the truth, you guys know very well who you are.

1.you stay in the country and should move

2.you are a regular tourist, start go somewhere else.

3.if you aren’t a visitor anymore to Thailand, leave this forum, hang on the forum you are a visitor to.

Positive people have a nice day!  and those negative, miserable and pessimistic start correct yourself.

17 hours ago, mardy1960 said:

he has retired 

9 hours ago, james1995 said:

25,000 baht a month?  More like 7-8000 baht according to my wife.

Minimum wage is 325 baht a day, 7 hours work, 5 days a week MINIMUM WAGE!!! with a degree it’s 15,000 baht a month.

what makes me laugh is all the farang keep saying the whole nation are living on 9000 baht a month, wich is wrong there are  roughly 25million cars on the here, a person with a minimum wage could not afford that, that just show how misinformed the average expat”expert” is.

your wife says that , maybe she only know the hookers in pattaya bars.

i know plenty of that earn 25,000 with normal office job nothing special wich easy earn the double with overtime and commission, it time the average farang in this country get educated and stop thinking he knows everything.

12 minutes ago, Jdiddy said:

 

Dunno, maybe you could enlighten us?

Probably because of taxes, and higher salaries there. 

Just now, sammieuk1 said:

Maybe your spending to much on whores and booze ? 

Just now, sammieuk1 said:

Maybe your spending to much on whores and booze ? 

?? to be honest, no whores, but a few beers per day, But beers are cheap, like 15,000kip for a big beer Lao.

but hotels,motorbike rent, transportation and restaurants are expensive there, ok it’s not expensive compared to my home country, but to the rest of Southeast Asia.