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1 hour ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Yeah, they have no way to verify a US territorial state document, other than going the full route of legalization through all the channels. I had my brother send all my documents back and forth to all the entities, below is a link to the procedure for legalization. You did the state part already, just a few more steps (US State Department, US Thai Embassy, MFA), though time consuming. If you have someone in the states to help with all the USPS priority tracked mailing, then they could get you the rest of the way, then the MFA you can do yourself from Thailand. Don't get too discouraged. 

 

https://newyork.thaiembassy.org/en/page/legalization?menu=61ea69ddf85ab7598d722da2

 

https://washingtondc.thaiembassy.org/th/page/certify-us-documents

I’ll follow your advise thanks 🙏 , get the required docs upon my arrival in US .

not much I can do now , just wait for wifes green card approval. 

until then I’ll have to border bounce every 3 months to Savann 

no big deal , just fills up passport quickly.

12 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Did you get the Apostille legalized at a Thai Embassy in the US? Plus, I think the Gold seal is the state Apostille, you would still need to get it authenticated by the US Secretary of state(which when they are done is a bonded/riveted together multi-paged document), I believe the Secretary of State was John Kerry in 2015. Then bring that back here to the MFA and have them certify the US Thai Embassy signature?

 

My full Apostille/Authenticated Marriage documents have an original notarized (embossed seal) marriage certificate, a letter from the Secretary of the Commonwealth (Massachusetts) with his Gold Seal applied verifying the signature of the Notary, then it has the top off-white/Manila letter from the US State Department (embossed seal) with the US Secretary of States signature certifying the Massachusetts seal, then a red and blue stamped seal from the Thai Embassy in Washington DC with Signature on the Top riveted page from the US State department. The backside of that top page has the MFA stamp certifying the signature of the Thai Embassy in Washington DC. So three pages riveted together with multiple certifications by people attesting to all of the signatures and seals.

You are correct lordgrunz , my apostille is from my home state . I never had it certified by US Secretary of State . First time I ever heard of such a requirement . Difficult to acquire now from Thailand Im sure . The reality is , the officer wouldn’t even look at the state apostille and license. Just zero negotiations . You must have thai license or certificate from Thai Embassy, with Thai seal , nothing else will be accepted. Thanks for your help and advise .

38 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Why didn't you ask to speak to the head imm officer? Problem would have easily been solved. 

If you think going over this woman's head would have resulted in the supervisor reversing her decision, that my documents are not legit ?

Well hope you maintain that cheery optimism , Ive never seen a Thai happy about losing face , ever .

Yes lordgrinz we were married in US in 2015, wife retained her name .

moved to Thailand in 2017

My marriage license from US does have the gold leaf apostille attached to it (expensive and time consuming to get) ,made no difference to officer . The letter from US embassy, expensive trip and time consuming also . Irrelevant to this woman. I have no answer for being treated like this . The wife had to do the arguing, and she nearly had a nervous breakdown! Later outside she was adamant that she had enough, never go back in that office again. I’ve already started greencard process for the wife , we both had enough.

So long Thailand 👋🏾

3 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Married to a Thai why not simply get a marriage visa.🤔I Unless i suppose you stay away for more than a year at a time.

My Non O was based on marriage from Savanna. , 90 days all you get now if money not in Thai bank.

I expect even this to end soon . For many years I went and got a 1 year non o marriage visa , no money to show .

all coming too an end , I think.

Pay the large broker fees or border bounce every 3 months ,for now

16 hours ago, BritTim said:

 

Savannakhet does issue Non O visas based on retirement with funds in an overseas bank account, but I do not think an IRA account would qualify. You could ask them. At best, this would mean border bounces every 90 days, but that would likely not be a major issue if you live in Mukdahan.

Thanks Tim 

I’ll give Savannakhet a try.

I’ll post the outcome in a few weeks 

Cheers 

Yes Hamus , offices everywhere 

but without 400k or 800k in thai bank no visa for you or me 

that why agent have a lucrative business 

thanks for info Guys

my visa will expire 1 Dec,  any opinions about getting a retirement visa instead ? I can show funds  in America (IRA) ,  would be easier and cheaper than agent I use in Pattaya ,. Plus i now have to show up in person  for immigration photo , new rule (13 hrs on a bus sucks ! ) i live in mukdahan

any thoughts ? Thanks 🙏 

Wow , good tip , great story!

Thnx Frits , ya that’s what I did this past year, because not enough money 

Fills up your visa book pretty quick , sucks 

but Laos does have great duty free !

Thanks Tanoshi , I’m learning 

Thnx everyone , looks like I’ll be heading to Savannaket !

fun , fun

Will the u.s. embassy in bkk help with translation and verification?

Thanks for replying first off .

yes I’m trying to get another non-immigrant O , based on marriage, the same I received in u.s. d.c.

and no I never registered our marriage, I went yesterday to local government office here , they said we don’t  read English 

i asked if I get it translated, could you register the marriage? Said no , that also might be a fake.Go to your embassy and have it translated and verified.

Any way to get this done without fly to bkk?

thnx 

Anybody out there deal with this one?

im am American living here in Thailand going on a year next week.

Went to immigration in Mukdahan for renewal of my non “o” visa , for another year 

I was given a big run around over my marriage license might be fake.

tried to explain to them we married in u.s. , moved here and all my info had be approved before. Told me go try bkk ? <deleted> ?

Thanks for any info