GeeKay

2 hours ago, medic5678 said:

No, I'm not fooling around.  Of course, the temptation is there but it's a guaranteed way to destroy my marriage to the girl I love.  Sex comes and goes in a relationship, but I love my wife tremendously.  I got the by far the best girl I'll ever have in this world and a fling is worth nothing beside this.  So I'll stay on the narrow path :).

We're in the same boat.

10 hours ago, medic5678 said:

Let's be honest guys.   The thing we want most is to see the girl's face clearly and a better view of her body.  We men are pigs and I admit to it.  Not to say that I'd fool around on my wife, but I'm not dead yet either.

When you say you're not dead does that mean you're still a chance of fooling around or you just haven't been caught yet? lol

38 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Gone Baby Gone, The Town, Argo. Not too shabby directing?

 

Argo: Best Picture Oscar (Affleck and Clooney producers).

 

Addiction is tough, sad to see this news.

 

Jennifer Garner's new film looks awesome: Peppermint, where she channels Liam Neeson.

 

 

 

 

I've been to Peppermint many times on Walking St I wasn't channeling Liam though.

13 hours ago, stud858 said:

I've heard that is usual too from people who went in.

You're quote is indicating it's replying to my quote. That isn't my quote and it's a load of bullshit from someone who has never been in the situation.

On 7/21/2018 at 10:58 PM, snowgard said:

I not believe your story!!! You will never been locked in the police station for 15 days. This is complete BS.
The normal time someone is locked in the police monkeyhouse are only 1-2 days ( on weekend). In normal they bring you direct on the next day to the court. So something stink very much about your story.

I've only just logged on a read a few older posts. I won't get in an argument with you Peanut I can't write in broken English.

I thought it was the Idiot Abroad when I saw the photo but then I read the story and I knew it definitely was.

It's like a horse race. Him and Matt Damon broke together but Damon is like Secretariat and Affleck is a Sham pardon the pun.

On 8/14/2018 at 5:33 AM, fakename said:

Another point about your buying your ticket and paying the fine, is your putting an end of hiding and worrying. Another thing is you buy the ticket you want and the price you can afford, If someone else is buying your ticket, at DC, I dont think they are going to sit all day and try to get the best for you, and maybe charge you a Service Charge, on top of it. You got two choices, dont take the stupid choice!

Good advice. Another fact is not every airline will fly deportees so once you're in IDC you'll have to accept what their little travel agency dishes up. This happens to be my subject of some small expertise after spending 8 nights in IDC recently. You want to make sure you have your money available as well because you will be sitting in a hell hole with 100 other inmates 24hrs a day until you can sort it out. Incredibly every room has guys in charge that are actually inmates themselves. The room/cell that I was in the boss was an Iranian and actually had a phone in there which I was able to use by paying him 1000 baht a call. Don't expect any rush service to get anything else sorted but the food is wonderful especially if you like a bit of white rice and some chicken carcass (no flesh) in hot water. Slapped onto a tin tray that you have to wash off in the toilet before lining back up and placing it on the pile at the cell window. Has anyone else had this wonderful experience?

3 hours ago, BestB said:

This i could not tell you, either one on Pratumnak Hill or one in HuaYai, i am thinking the first one.

 

Did they bring you in from the side in the back? Had to take off your shoes, then right in front was processing office and to the right is where you saw the cell with people doing weird stuff? If thats the one, then its the Provincial on Pratumnak Hill.

I can vaguely remember coming in from the side just a road next to the building. It was fairly low key I was with one other person and we weren't handcuffed. Never was I required to take off my shoes and there were a lot of people around. We went through to an area where we had small rooms to sit in with table and chairs. Then the actual court room was quite full and the magistrate a woman was right up the front on a kind of stage set up with a security type barriers. I had to go to the front and hear my stuff at one stage and fortunately I had a translator because finally on the 2nd week of my time in Soi9 my friend that works in the hotel I always stay at found me in jail. The hotel put 2 and 2 together because all my belongings were in my room and I just disappeared. It sounds like I was at  the Provincial Court on Pratumnak Hill.

After my case was finished we walked back through the building to the front and I firmly believe that cell I spoke about was nearby. I really need to find out if I was hallucinating because there was a big cell with all these guys I'm sure someone said they were some types of monks but they were white guys all shaved heads and tattoos. This is more than likely some psychotic episode but it seems so real.

3 hours ago, BestB said:

To put your mind at rest, it all happened even though it’s hard to believe.

Thing is everyone makes mistakes and surely there are consequences . Problem is in Thailand punishment does not fit the crime.

 

did you deserve to get punished for overstaying ? Sure , but did you deserve to be locked up in general population with no food, water or any basic necessities ? Of course not.

You should have access to basic medical care, legal assistance to say the least.

 

one thing is being a hardcore criminal, drug runner or rapist or killer and another an overstay of few days, no one got hurt, no one was killed, injured or suffered any discomfort by your few day overstay 

Agreed. Now can I ask  which court I would have been to? Was it the provincial court and have you been there?

3 hours ago, BestB said:

Pretty sure you confused, after 2 days of not knowing if day or night, time of day, brain starts to go a little . 

 

For me it it was easier as I had people visiting me , for you I can only imagine the nightmare and frustration of not even knowing what to expect , when, why or what .

 

seriously give yourself a pat on the shoulder , it’s an absolute nightmare to go through alone with no one to assist in a country like Thailand 

Thanks for those words but I can't really give myself a pat anywhere after putting myself in that position.

I hope you don't mind this extended conversation with me but it's so refreshing to hear from someone like you that knows what goes on. The reason I say that is because as you can imagine it was all a blur at some points and I really would like to work out what happened or what may have been hallucinations.

3 hours ago, BestB said:

 

 

was his gf still there ? She is a young girl with a great ass and usually showered in the cell you stayed.

After the way you've described her do I even need to answer that question? Mate this was the episode from hell there were no nice stories like that to tell. I'm picturing the thought of her appearing and showering in my cell now I might have asked for an extension. ( Of time served I mean not my private part).

As for Mr Hong Thong I believe I saw him at IDC when I was leaving. I was out of the room/cell I was staying block 7 I think and down stairs in the common area and he was walking past in a group and he yelled out hello to me. I'm positive it was Mr Hong Thong himself. Still no gf unfortunately though lol.

I have to edit this because it does not make sense even to me. If Mr Hong Thong was a Thai there is no way he would be in IDC?  Maybe it was someone else there's a fair chance I've gone crazy I think.

3 hours ago, Kadilo said:

The mistake wasn’t just overstaying due to your foot injury. It was not attempting to get an extension at any time and going’s out on the piss and attracting interest from the Police. 

I do not disbelieve your story as you seem a genuine guy but you have to accept that you made a gross error in judgement too. 

This is Thailand. I’m sure your jail experience was a prolonged and unpleasant one, but I fail to see from what I’ve read how you was treated like an animal. Maybe I’ve missed something. 

No you are right mate I wasn't treated like an animal. 

There is no where that an animal can be locked in a cage legally and not given food or water for 15 days so I rescind my statement. I was treated worse than an animal.

Everyone has got their right to an opinion but I've had a gutful of trying to help anyone out that could ever think of risking themselves going through this. I don't get any thrill out typing away writing about this misery.

To say part of my mistake was to go out and have a drink? Well maybe I don't drink like you and carry on like a pork chop. Oh and maybe I don't take kindly to being ripped off blind by some monkey running a bar and if you haven't seen that happen than you definitely don't handle your drink well.

As I've said before I didn't cause a big stir and I paid my bill however I wasn't aware that Tourist Police would be interested in my visa date when all they asked for was some ID. So I could have given them a drivers licence yet when I gave them my passport they thought they might just go through it page by page.

Nobody called them to get involved I'd left the bar and just thought I'd have a chat with them to see if I had any recourse.  

5 hours ago, seasia said:

Yes

 

Incredible.

 

Amazing you both got thru it.

Fascinating ( and scary ) read.

Yeh it's only bits and pieces of my story which is easier than the whole thing that would take forever to write.

After everything I went through at Soi 9 I then spent 5 days at Banglamung police cells which was another unbelievable experience. I was locked in a cell once again with no bedding or pillows just cold concrete floor but this time with me in my locked cell were 5 young Cambodians.

Now get this these guys were smoking meth in the cell and they were getting it from a guy who worked in the station that delivered the food. Yes you heard me right this hell hole actually provided food if you would call it that which was only fair considering they were providing methamphetamine. You can imagine whats going through my head now I'm thinking this will be the ultimate downfall if they decide to do a urine test on all of us I'm going to be positive as well due to second hand smoke.

Back to the food for a minute it was little packets of boiled rice with about 2 strands of onion on top an absolute delight especially watching us all eat with our hands. They served twice a day at this place a real dream come true in fact I'm forever watching my weight and restricting carbs so I was starting to think I'll get fat lol. Whenever there was an extra packet I claimed it and told them they shouldn't be hungry anyway smoking "ice" all day. In all seriousness I started doing push ups regularly which I always do at home and there wasn't much else to do I'm not up to speed with Cambodian current affairs.

I don't care if people don't believe the story because I know there are people on here that are aware of this situation now in Thailand. However I do need to point out I am a very normal guy and I don't care what some people say on that score I know this can happen to anyone. I do business in Hong Kong and Singapore and have been to Thailand over 20 times often on my way home to Australia. I would say in that time I have flown Thai Airways Business Class at least 10 times and First class 3 times. The point is it's not a story about some broke expat trying to beat the immigration system. I made a mistake by staying a little longer after missing my flight because I cut my foot and to be honest I have done it once before and just paid the 500 baht per day when I got to the airport immigration they just took me in an office and processed the whole thing in minutes.

I understand they need to toughen their stance on this stuff but I wasn't entitled to be treated like an animal in my opinion.

3 hours ago, BestB said:

Lol, it’s all true . The cell you chose is actually “ bosses” private shower and toilet .

 

”boss” is a tallish guy with tats all over his back.

 

that cell is the only one with running water and half decent toilet. Girls cell also has a usable shower and toilet. All other cells are for hybornating .

 

and yes surreal yet totally real

I'm note sure if that boss guy was there but like I've said I was fairly wiped out by lack of sleep and I actually went a bit mad one day in there after coming back from court. There was a guy that seemed to be in charge I'm sure they were calling him Mr Hong Kong but he wasn't from Hong Kong I don't think. He had tattoos all over him and was quite fit he was good at fixing the tap though with the plastic bag lol.

3 hours ago, BestB said:

I was in Soi 9 cells and yes inmates share the food and drinks it’s an unspoken rule. Whenever someone has a visitor , you would order double or triple of everything to go around to share.

 

Hand to hand operates out of south Pattaya , based in suksabai villa.?

Righto so you've been in the Soi 9 cells. I am still having nightmares about that place I took up residence in the first cell right near the entrance and where all the visitors come to the window. You would know where I mean as you walk in towards the cells its the first one on the right facing the other way. I preferred sleeping in there because I was on my own and even though I had nothing to sleep on except concrete I could just curl up against the wall.

Incredibly the cell had a whole pool of water and whatever else in the middle so I could only sleep on the outside of that. I still can't believe the conditions I endured. On one occasion when some of the hierarchy of the police made their daily inspection they locked me out of that cell because one of the coppers decided it was too putrid which was hard to believe he would even give a care . Somehow I had them unlock it again and found some rags and soaked up all the piss and water and wrang it out over the hole in the ground toilet. I dried the whole cell and I was starting to think "wow I'm getting a little too used to living here". I even yelled out to the other inmates that I was living in 5 star in my own apartment while they were all crammed together. Amazingly near my toilet where the tap was to fill up the big plastic barrel used as the shower I had to do some plumbing work with a rolled up plastic bag otherwise the water went everywhere. Also I had to turn it on or off I can't quite remember to enable the other cells to use their water at different times.

I'm even finding it hard to believe my story but I'm adamant it's all true.  

12 hours ago, BestB said:

Thats spot on, the only way for someone to survive is if someone brings food and drinks, Amazingly everyone who is locked up shares everything they get.

And also just as amazing or weird, but everyone kind of sticks together, i actually made lots of friends while locked up.

 

Its definitely an experience to remember  and when looking back, makes you think, how the hell did i survive??

 

 

 

 

Yes well I think I was in shock as much as anything because I've never been in any trouble before so certainly never incarcerated. As I stated I was initially in Pattaya Police station cells at Soi 9 or whatever they call it. If you asked me it's right on beach road  but I'm guessing Soi 9 is there somewhere as a side street. I was then taken to Banglamung Police station for about 5 days before being sent to IDC in Bangkok for about 8 nights before I managed to organise my deportation.

I'm interested to know if you were in any of those lock ups or seen them firsthand. It's correct what you said about other inmates sharing which I found happened to me at Soi 9.

Another thing that happened was a volunteer group of Westerners came one particular day with some food and water they were called handtohand. By this stage the cut on my foot had become quite infected due to the atrocious conditions. The lady from hand to hand tried to clean it but there wasn't much she could do with her limited resources. I managed to pass a gentleman name Brian my email address and we have had some correspondence since my return. Below is part of an email he sent to me................................................

3 hours ago, BestB said:

Sad reality is thailand lock up is nothing like the West with rules or regulations. They do not feed you or give you water, do not care if you sick or unwell.

 

if you alone, without a thai coming to visit you or there to speak on your behalf , they care even less and as you said , all your stuff goes missing.

 

 

You know your stuff I was in an amazing predicament in Soi 9 cells because I was alone in Thailand so for the first 3 days I had no food or water and the only way for inmates to get anything was to have a visitor pass them something once a day during a short visiting period.

Fortunately other inmates realised my situation and shared their things with me mainly water was what I needed because I'd actually begun drinking from the filthy tap in my cell. 

3 hours ago, BestB said:

No, my thing not overstay. But went through the entire saga and have been helping others in similar situation , this is why very familiar with how this madness works , lol

 

for court bail, they give you blue booklet with all the info and your case number for the weekly sign ins. Once all done , they even take that as proof for their files , you get nothing , not even a paper stating you fulfilled bail conditions 

Mate I take my hat off to you if you are helping people in such difficult situations.

I could have done with someone like you in my corner even though somehow I managed to weave some magic on my own. If I was a bit younger I certainly would not have fancied my chances in that environment because on leaving Soi 9 I became aware the police had stolen my pair of new Nike Air max runners and also my jeans with all my credit cards and some cash in the pockets.

3 hours ago, BestB said:

Police took the receipt , as you had to show fine was paid and they need it for their records .

 

i do not have a single receipt from my dealings , including police and court.

 

all taken by either court or police for their files as evidence of fine/bail being paid.

 

as silly as it sounds , that’s how it works in this legal jungle 

Ok that makes some sense so much as everything that happened is hard to remember I was in quite a state of sleep deprivation.

You mentioned you do not have a single receipt from your dealings , including police and court. I have to ask you did you go through a similar episode as mine? 

22 hours ago, stud858 said:

Can you post an image of your fine receipt and others. That may silence the critics.

I have no idea what happened to my receipt from paying the fine as once I did so at court I was taken back to Soi 9 and locked up again before being taken to Banglamung police cells for 5 days. You must remember I have no bags or change of clothes or anything except what is on me. However I just noticed in my passport where it was stamped for departure there are some other things in Thai writing and I would imagine the part in red would say I am excluded from entering for 5 years. I'll attach a photo of it.

On 7/18/2018 at 8:36 PM, tropo said:

That's a good point - you never know if you need it or not over the 3 week wait period. Probably better to have it than not, but I don't enjoy 5 hours on the bus (including BTS, taxis etc), so I do it the lazy way.

I wonder if they will post it to you if you say you have lost your passport?

Then he could have used his old one to fly to Singapore in the interim. Hard to believe I'm thinking of sneaky ways to rort the system after what I've just been through.

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

 

By your own admission you were in a bar probably getting p++sed, and got into an argument over paying your bill.

So I made an admission to something that in the next breath was only a probability?

Thanks for helping me make a decision on where to go with all this. I'm going to have something to eat.