Sebastian Yanto

Thanks for the reply

I do believe certain envelope will help but I need a link of the 'rules' want to read it our Myslef 

Thanks 

Dear Members 

I tried to look up online but to can't find English or simplified version.

Need to find out details of how to became or 'rules' to be certified organic farms in Thailand 

- I heard about water canals and or absorbent tree as around lands 

just want to get a proper/direct link that I can read about it myself. 

Thank you so much 

On August 21, 2018 at 4:21 PM, cooked said:

Anything similar in your neighbourhood? The locals should be able to help. Around here during the rainy season the water table is about one metre higher than the ground. However in summer many of the ponds dry out almost completely including ours which is 8 metres deep.

Traditionally clay would be used, both sides and bottom. If this dries out cracks may form that won't seal so easily, so you need, somehow, to get vegetation on the banks both to provide shade and prevent erosion.

A LOT of work.

On September 9, 2018 at 3:18 PM, MikeN said:

Well here is an update for you Sebastian, from the Nation so we are allowed to quote them this time.

 

the Cabinet approved in principle a bill to amend the forestry laws to allow landowners to make decisions about protected trees residing on their lands without first seeking approval from forestry officials.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30354035

 So it has been approved but not yet passed into law.

Thanks Mike 

The planting is a 'go' for sure and easily passed, I also plant some already.

they also use this (planting trees) as an asset value to get a 'loan' 

the last time farmers need to get 3 Person above 17 as 'guarantor' to get a 'loan' 

they use any bait to get any uneducated farmer to get a loan, part of it...

And of course on the positive side is No paperwork to plant now.

Now searching for a list of tree that legally harvested without notify anyone for home usage strictly.

planning to build furnitures using tress that I can plant in my land.

any advise?

Thank again 

Farmejo

Noted on that thanks 

good point 

keep it coming, it's gonna be fun

thanks 

Hi cooked 

I just went 'Oblonk' a seminar runs by used to be Archan in agriculture, he helped King Rama 9 doing all the 'King Projects' all over Thailand.

He is in charge mostly in rural location with water problem, following King's footstep.

He runs a local seminar for local Thai farmer's and I get a whole of their teaching and 

Its proven and he has a follower but some monoculture, multi crops & chemical usage are common and some are not believe in these method.

As u knoe we are 2 sides of (rice mono) farmer - the one who always blame others (price, land no good, can't keep water-etc) 

and the other who dig hole-keep water- irrigation-no chemical-home made fertilizer

The method called 'KOG Nong Naa' 

hill pond field, sustainability in farming 

So many subject 

but about canal is 

the best way is;

- to dig too pond more than 6M, lay clay packed mix (I am looking for the correct ratio here, straw+cow dung) bottom side, if 1st time don't work - dry pond and redo clay layer 

- to plant glass (roots reached >5M)

called 'yaa Fek' stubborn hardy grass, which I intend to opt out 

I am looking from organic, non commercials & sustainability angle 

Dear all 

As as I need to ask advise.

I am planning in digging water canal  ('kut lum') around zone of old existing trees. 

Imagine: creating a island of 2Mx8M with existing of mango, Jack, lime tree.

Surrounded by water canal 1Mx0,5M

Then outer layer I plan to plant big trees & other plans including long root grass.

Function to catch rain & moist (lessen watering chore)

My question how to keep water in canal as much, if not how to retain at best.

Cheapest & 1 man show kind of solution, I expect it won't be as perfect as effective 

any suggestion 

1). I don't want to cement, no machinery & not sure about planting grass.

or 'Yaa Fek', as no occupant for another 3 years to take care.

2). Is claying at bottom canal works best ('Kii Bhua + Fang mix), Any other suggestion please?

4) if need to purchase material or labor engagement/assistant, budget at max 1,000bath/zone 

* I am hoping to get as close result of 'Sai Kai' of a KOG NONG NAA model 

Thank you so much 

5 hours ago, MikeN said:

Well I only read the story about two weeks ago, it was still subject to discussion by a committee to lay down the rules, then it would have to be passed by the govt, then published in the royal gazette, and then it would come into force 60 days later.....so I think all those people are jumping the gun !

Would you kindly share the link the story u read please 

Been trying hard to find it and read it 

thanks Mike 

Drtreelove

Thanks for the suggestions 

Since 3 years I fill up with fruits, some herbs shrubs - 

Banana mango Mangoestee, durian, Jack, lamyay, coco, macadamia, Berri, Noi naa, semunphai and Etc.. 

Agroforestry it's interesting 

But, for now searching for a big tree - lumber or a traditional single or multi stem big tree of Thailand tree with English translations so I can do my study base on it.

I am also not looking for 'pay of' for now. 

I have hang nuk yung, Kan phu, stow, Malom mayom and need to extend the list 

so need a link for Thai big tree in English translations 

It's has come trust me, just couldn't get whole in English.

farmers, nurseries, government appointmented Archan (kaset), kaset-takorn, rai owners are mentioning all paperwork done, is a 'go' and some already planted 

I heard all of them within this month.

You can notice all the nursery are bringing out the old unsold big tree & even sharing the same 'Unquotable'. 

But again I might be wrong, so I am still hoping for someone with good or better news than me

Or else I just need a link for Thai big tree translations to English 

Perhaps I can get a help on this? 

Thank you 

Hi all 

I have been hearing my local neighbors mentioning along the line: now we can plant big tree and harvest 

I been searching online to no avail and need much help on 

is there any link to 

- Confirmation of Thai government removing the Law of Harvest big trees (in English)

- link to Thai big tree, native & traditional tree with English names 

Thank you so much