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Just now, rwill said:

If they do start enforcing the TM30 policy fully they should get rid of 90 day reporting as it is redundant and unnecessary.

Honestly speaking 90 days report makes no sense especially for those that have been in here for over 3 years without police or immigration problems... the 90 days should be applicable to tourist who wishes to stay in here longer than the expected  

Just now, lucky2008 said:

is it really necessary to get an updated the Kor Ror. 2?

it cost 20 bath.. you had better get it before going to the immigration office 
I've been doing this for 13 years 

On 2/2/2019 at 3:34 PM, KittenKong said:

If Immigration never accepted bribes the agencies wouldn't bother offering them.

you are very correct

18 hours ago, Khaeng Mak said:

Immigration's rationale for me having 800K in the bank was that I should have sufficient money to cover my living expenses for one year.

 

But that position no longer holds up to logical scrutiny.

 

Immigration can no longer claim that the money is for my living expenses. As it cannot be withdrawn from my account.

 

If I have to lock my money up. Why can't I lock it up in the purchase of a Condo.

 

The retirement programs in several other countries allow me to do so.

 

Or are these changes just a poorly implemented plan to effectively double the amount I must now have in Thailand. 800K locked up in a low interest account, and then I have to bring in additional money to live off.

 

Or is there trouble on the horizon and those in charge want to bolster Thai banks with immovable foreign funds?

The Answer is "YES"

1 hour ago, HalfLight said:

Could one of those be my wife or is that a silly question

yes, your wife can be one employee just as mine 

On 1/29/2019 at 6:32 PM, Peterw42 said:

You would need to setup a Thai Company, 2 million baht capitol, 4 Thai employees (pay tax and social security) etc. That company would employ you and get you a work permit.

Married visa allows you to work with a WP

Actually if married to a Thai, its 1 million bath capital

Mukdahan Immigration office
333 Moo 7, Amphoe Mueang, Mukdahan 49000.

As for the departure card just fill in your name and leave other details .

Cheers 

7 hours ago, Just Weird said:

Why do "we all need to stand against this"?  The only ones who need to stand against it are the ones who cannot meet Immigration's requirements.

And the financial requirement equals: deposit 400k in your Thai account for 2 months, do you think all foreigners living in Thai can meet up with this requirement. Because the most difficult part of the requirement is the bank statement 

29 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

A Non-O multiple is available at some locations for being the documented parent of a Thai (versus married to a Thai) - but, of the locations nearby of which I am aware, they require financials to get it.  Someone please correct me if wrong - as this could help the OP.

You are right. A financial evidence must be presented which is the reason why our fellow here had to come in as a tourist regardless of being a father to thais. This guy is financially weak yet the immigration at point of entry want him to get a NON O visa. I am pretty sure he is not the only One in such Situation.

43 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I am sure a I am not the only person that knows you cannot get a non-o visa based upon marriage without a marriage certificate or based upon being the parent of a Thai without a birth certificate. 

Have a look here at the requirements for a O visa on the MFA website. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15398-Issuance-of-Visa.html

The O in non-o means other. They can be issued for several reasons.

That's why you can present which ever document you have and not just a marriage certificate... And those with NON O being the parent of a Thai would get same multiple entry visa. I have 5 different people with NON O multiple visa being parent to Thais.. 

3 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

We don't know that the kids are actually his (ie he is the father). He might just have taken them on, as so many foreign men do when they start a relationship with a Thai woman. That would affect his standing but, as I said above, getting married would solve everything.

From his post the kids are his and his problem is the 400k been asked for by the immigration at the time of extension which made him reserve to the tourist stamp option. We all have different stories and experiences about Thai immigration law 

11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That is incorrect info. A marriage certificate is mandatory document needed to apply for a non-o visa based upon marriage.

He could get one based upon being the parent of a Thai by showing their birth certificate but it would only be a single entry non-o visa.

Defend what you only know.  I can send a private DM to you of 5 different NON O visas without marriage certificates but everyone has a kid.. NON O means family visa... You only present a marriage certificate when you don't have a kid yet or,  present both birth cert "kid" and marriage cert  Grant me the permission to DM you.. Lot of mistakes in the immigration law when it comes to NON O

8 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

Just re-read and see he is not officially married.  That would need to happen first.

You don't have to be officially married before you can get a NON O visa..  NON O must be attached with a Thai identity number which means a Thai family and his 2 kids are there to fill in the space. His problem is the 400k the immigration need to see before granting a one year visa. Getting a visa from suvanakhet means you have to leave the country every 90 days but if you get an extension from the immigration you don't need to exit after 90 days..  The immigration officers need to take a review on their law as the law should favour all and not some

38 minutes ago, Iem said:

I'm surprised no-one has suggested he get a non O based on the children ! As he normally leaves Thailand every 60 days he would not need an extension . He would just need to pay for a new Non O every 14 months or so .

You are right..  But foreigners with NON O visas should get a better treatment. Singaporean immigration will never stress a Thai citizen this much.  

58 minutes ago, SpeakeasyThai said:

Your cleatly in the wrong on 2 levels and are up to your neck in it.

 

1) You HAVE exploited the visa - immigration department as you are not a tourist.

 

2) You willingly bribed an immigration officer.

 

If i was i your boots i would pull your head in and keep quiete. Apply for the correct visa and marry your long suffering poor Thai wife !!

 

No wonder they all end up going with farangs !

 

 

marry your long suffering poor Thai wife !!

 

No wonder they all end up going with farangs !

1. This is so wrong to tag is wife as a suffering poor Thai wife. 

2. What's so special about the farangs ?

Read the post once again the guy clearly stated his reason for not getting a NON O visa " 400k in Thai account" .. A law should favour all and not some. 

54 minutes ago, SpeakeasyThai said:

Your cleatly in the wrong on 2 levels and are up to your neck in it.

 

1) You HAVE exploited the visa - immigration department as you are not a tourist.

 

2) You willingly bribed an immigration officer.

 

If i was i your boots i would pull your head in and keep quiete. Apply for the correct visa and marry your long suffering poor Thai wife !!

 

No wonder they all end up going with farangs !

 

 

marry your long suffering poor Thai wife !!

 

No wonder they all end up going with farangs !

1. This is so wrong to tag is wife as a suffering poor Thai wife. 

2. What's so special about the farangs ?

Read the post once again the guy clearly stated his reason for not getting a NON O visa " 400k in Thai account" .. A law should favour all and not some. 

44 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

So get your married non-o from Savannakhet, 5,000bht for 15 months, no savings or income required.

you are not getting the point. Been married for 11 years and same thing documents must be submitted over and over again. The savings and income requirement makes no sense. Make your findings, male foreigners and female are treated differently. A female foreigner will only show her marriage certificate, Thai husband's I'd card plus family book and 1900baht, while a male foreigner would be asked to submit  more than this plus 400k in account for 2 months. 

Truth must be told. Thai law is like a nail you have to be careful while barefooted. 1. A marriage certificate has no expiry date. 2. A child's birth certificate has no expiry date. 3. House registration and family book has no expiry date "tambien ban" but yet a married foreigner would be allowed to stay for 365 days. My question is which other country does this? Married Foreigners deserves better treatment and this would only happen if we all stand strong by confronting the law makers to have a proper review of the law they made.  Married foreigners should have a longer stay visa and not just a 365 days extension, plus the 400k is the only reason why a foreigner would pay under table fee. Things need to be corrected 

10 hours ago, BritTim said:

Pursuing this issue is very unlikely to work out well. Trying to use visa exempt entries as a way of staying long term in Thailand actually is against a Police Order issued in the middle of 2014 (though the prime minister stated that the rules should "be applied flexibly"). If denied entry when trying to enter visa exempt, there is no appeal procedure. You could get the mid level official you bribed into trouble, but it will probably cost you a lifetime ban from entering Thailand. I suspect that would be too high a price for you to pay.

 

You may not like this, but the solution is to get tourist visas for subsequent trips into Thailand. If you stay over 30 days, this actually works out cheaper (you save the 1,900 baht for the extension) though there is obviously a bit of hassle and extra space taken up in your passport.

The problem we all need to stand against is the 400k ,"$12,500"been asked for in the account for 2 months without withdrawal, 90% of married foreigners ain't  OK with this. Switching from TR to NoN O is easy but only few would meet up with the immigration financially status demand.

10 hours ago, BritTim said:

Pursuing this issue is very unlikely to work out well. Trying to use visa exempt entries as a way of staying long term in Thailand actually is against a Police Order issued in the middle of 2014 (though the prime minister stated that the rules should "be applied flexibly"). If denied entry when trying to enter visa exempt, there is no appeal procedure. You could get the mid level official you bribed into trouble, but it will probably cost you a lifetime ban from entering Thailand. I suspect that would be too high a price for you to pay.

 

You may not like this, but the solution is to get tourist visas for subsequent trips into Thailand. If you stay over 30 days, this actually works out cheaper (you save the 1,900 baht for the extension) though there is obviously a bit of hassle and extra space taken up in your passport.

The problem we all need to stand against is the 400k ,"$12,500"been asked for in the account for 2 months without withdrawal, 90% of married foreigners ain't  OK with this. Switching from TR to NoN O is easy but only few would meet up with the immigration financially status demand.

10 hours ago, BritTim said:

Pursuing this issue is very unlikely to work out well. Trying to use visa exempt entries as a way of staying long term in Thailand actually is against a Police Order issued in the middle of 2014 (though the prime minister stated that the rules should "be applied flexibly"). If denied entry when trying to enter visa exempt, there is no appeal procedure. You could get the mid level official you bribed into trouble, but it will probably cost you a lifetime ban from entering Thailand. I suspect that would be too high a price for you to pay.

 

You may not like this, but the solution is to get tourist visas for subsequent trips into Thailand. If you stay over 30 days, this actually works out cheaper (you save the 1,900 baht for the extension) though there is obviously a bit of hassle and extra space taken up in your passport.

The problem we all need to stand against is the 400k ,"$12,500"been asked for in the account for 2 months without withdrawal, 90% of married foreigners ain't  OK with this. Switching from TR to NoN O is easy but only few would meet up with the immigration financially status demand.

Lot of people complained about this same issue. Let's have a private chat and you will get every info needed. A Thai lawyer is ready to support foreigners living in Thai with " thai-wife,  kid,  and kids".