Graviton

4 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:

And are you saying then that none of your girlfriends enjoyed what you described for the durations detailed, the reason you never married one ?  Pity that all the ones I knew did. Bloody tiring I'll tell you. My JT is now only a sliver of its former self.  You not hansum man obviously ????

And get on ya horse and drink ya milk bez lol

5 minutes ago, sirineou said:

 As it should be. 

These funds should be for emergencies and not to leave on. And they are a relatively small amount. 

$13k for married? the price of a cheap car?  You can't touch the money you have in a car , unless you sell it at which time you don't have a car, and you can't spend your emergency funds unless you withdraw them at which time you don't have emergency funds.

The purpose of this whole exercise by the Thai authorities is that you have emergency funds and that you do not become a burden in the case of a medical emergency.

I know, I get it, I was young one time and I felt indestructible, I don't claim a higher moral or intelligence level.

 But the Thai authorities have to make rational decisions , and I don't think  it is irrational to require  of someone to have a relatively small amount, to protect against emergencies, in fact it might be a measure of tough love and a way to protect as from our own selves and/or  youthful exuberance. 

I know we got away with it for a while do to the embassy letter scam, But how many people died or became a burden to Thailand because they did not really have adequate funds to react to emergencies?

Not that $13k or $25K is even adequate. 

IMO the Thai government should allow long term resident to buy into the government medical insurance. Problem solved, I am sure they can come up with a premium that doesn't strain the system, in fact the system might profit because most expats have better insurance back home and will go there for major non emergency procedures, I know I would.   

Yes exactly but why are they pushing mandatory health insurance too..

I BELIEVE not for O just O-A but if I’m wrong, that blows your thinking out of the water...........here lies the rubix

I have made the same suggestion re government hospital access at fair price.

3 minutes ago, mike787 said:

Pattaya = Dantes inferno.

 

“Ant dantes roo” the song? Lol

4 minutes ago, tifino said:

probably that; if it's good enough for the Goose, it's good enough for the Gander, to try!

1. Some marry and get a visa for them to live in their home country, many...

2. Many times divorce isn’t optional....

2 minutes ago, jinners said:

That's really helpful. Great post

Not if you look at the migration to europe....completely out of control.....

27 minutes ago, sirineou said:

 I have Blue Cross Blue Shield (BCBS) through my trade union in the US that covers me until I am 65 (I am 62 now) so I am covered anywhere in the world, but when I turn 65 I go on Medicare and I am no longer covered in Thailand.

  Med insurance , or the income requirements  do not  not come as a surprise me, and IMO should not to anyone else. 

  Even though it might not had being a requirement for medical insurance  in the past, who in their right mind would move to a foreign country to retire knowing damn well that they will get old and will require care, and not make contingency plans???

  I could have sold  my property in the US, and living high on the hog from the proceeds, as many have, but I did not, knowing damn well that for health or many other reasons I might have to repatriate. 

  Income requirements. Married (400k ) for me,800K for retirees that are not married.

To come to Thailand one needs to do a few things. One needs to buy an airplane ticket. You would not go to the airport without a ticket. One needs to pack esensial things, plan to have enough income for food and shelter etc.

 But it seems for some not plan to have $13K/$24K to leave in the bank for Thai immigration income requirements. and emergencies 

I don't mean to sound ,uncaring, but to me this sounds like extremely poor planning, and not the Thai authorities fault for requiring that you have a small amount of savings to live here.

But you cannot touch 800k for 5 months 400k can never be touched, that is where the issue is, dip into 400k no ext the following year....

9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I said that, not Graviton.

My landlord is a farang. IMHO he is probably about 300 K above a reasonable selling price, not that I am interested in buying.

 

Why does it say I said

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I said that, not Graviton.

My landlord is a farang. IMHO he is probably about 300 K above a reasonable selling price, not that I am interested in buying.

 

Confused why it states I said it.?

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

The last 18- 19 pages has zip to do with OP. 

Why are not these nonsense threads closed. Couple running at present. 

I'm going to start new one.. 

"Would you stay if they...."

I thought this forum was about serious advice re visas and serious other matters. Not gossip tank.

I started the post and it’s obvious there isn’t an empirical answer........

asked how to close it, apparently you cannot.

1 minute ago, yodsak said:

If they use an agent again to bypass the rules there will be no problem.

Yes I see the logic????

1 minute ago, smedly said:

apparently those that have used an agent to bypass the rules and don't have the money in the bank don't need to report their balance after 3 months, like I said above, it will be interesting in 12 months time when they apply for renewal and have no 400k minimum balance to show

There are 2 ways of looking at that...

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Cost? With pre-existing conditions, over 75?

Not a clue? Sorry

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

As I understand it, the authorities want farangs to use THAI medical insurance companies for the O-A visa. Correct me if I am wrong.

Given they also want 40,000 baht OUTPATIENT insurance, I'm not sure your post is relevant.

Can use any insurance company you want.

400k in

40k out

3 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Cigna

https://www.cignaglobal.com/

 

Globality Health

https://www.globality-health.com/yougenio/world/

 

If not yet 80, AXA Global also has some options  https://www.axaglobalhealthcare.com/en/international-health-insurance/plan-details/

 

Cost: depends on plan and whether you accept a deductible but roughly USD $4000 - $5000 a year.  (referring to inpatient only plans).

 

If you request a quote on any of those sites don't put your phone number (enter a string of zeroes or nines) or you'll be pestered by sales people.

 

 

I think the emphasis was more about cost.. those prices are too high...

1 minute ago, Gandtee said:

And where does an over 75 obtain health insurance and at what cost?

Not my point I was addressing a paragraph referencing unpaid bills.... if you had it before? What happened? Non O ext to stay due to retirement don’t need insurance? 

2 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

You thought right in your last but one paragraph.

The hospitals bills as I am led to believe are an O-A issue.......resolved with mandatory health insurance. And possible 100 baht on ever visitor ticket..... going into the hospital pot.......

5 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

Is the Australian economy strong?

The Australian economy is dominated by its service sector, comprising 61.1% of the GDP and employing 79.2% of the labour force in 2016. ... Despite the recent decline in the mining sector, the Australian economy has remained resilient and stable and has not experienced a recession since July 1991.

Currencies are manipulated by the banksters R?

4 minutes ago, Benroon said:

A paranoid one might

If your single who the hells name would you put them in?????????

5 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said:

There are linguists who agree with you and linguists who disagree.

 

I can agree with your point that if a language is not used optimally, communication can suffer. 

 

Thais generally suffer at Thai language and also done benefit from English much either, due to their poor English proficiency and also systemic xenophobia. 

 

Without getting into a really long answer, there are many hints that Thai is deficient in some ways and that most Thais (poorly educated and highly educated) are too. 

 

* It is well-known that Thais are poor readers of their own language. 

 

* It is acknowledged that Thais spend among the most time in the world learning their own language - several years longer than even their neighbors the Vietnamese. 

 

* Thai writing is considered by many linguists to be among the most complex in the world. 

 

* Thais are among the worst speakers of English as a second language of all measured countries - despite their decades long reliance on western tourism and decades long English programs in schools 

 

* Scripto Continua, or writing without spaces (also known as stop words), is regarded by most linguists to represent languages that did not undergo literary traditions to allow knowledge dissemination to common classes of people

 

Then take them uk let them go school everyday for 5 yrs then English is perfect.......

Take the time to study thai also

2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

No they shouldn't if they don't want to, people can stay in Thailand many ways which still are the legal requirements.

 

Nowadays it seems to me Thai immigration authorities have a problem with single falangie men maybe women to, wanting to stay Thailand.

That problem is something to do with falangies not paying hospital bills.

 

I thought OP was posting about someone coming to Thailand some 20 years ago or more when things were easier but many were money amounts grandfathered so the OP's post to me becomes a personal scenario situation. 

For ext of stay due to retirement is 800k 65k a month mixture or the marriage route is what (..I..) was referring to. Anything else up to them.

Just now, Lacessit said:

Sorry, I am not paying attention. Broken records have that effect on me. I switch them off.

Seems like hou are 

Just now, Lacessit said:

Sorry, I am not paying attention. Broken records have that effect on me. I switch them off.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Sorry, I am not paying attention. Broken records have that effect on me. I switch them off.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Sorry, I am not paying attention. Broken records have that effect on me. I switch them off.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Sorry, I am not paying attention. Broken records have that effect on me. I switch them off.

Insults when corrected by facts....want the graph...

enjoy your day I know I will.......

9 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

Wow - only 14K in Bangkok.  I thought Bangkok agents were 25K. 

 

Maybe the discount is due the massive volume increase, thanks to their partners in immigration working with them, to push more customers to use their "services" for their mutual benefit.

Still prefer 1900 baht

Just now, Lacessit said:

Only after you have sold it, or rented it out. I prefer to have my capital earning income in Australia, where I can sleep comfortably in the knowledge I am not going to be subject to capricious rules changes, and can liquidate easily.

Brexit has nothing to do with the fall in the GBP? News to me.

Are you paying attention ITS PAID FOR ITSELF ALREADY.......DONT NEED THE MONEY TO MOVE...

£ was in the 40s 2010

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

You omitted to mention you were working off the result of Brexit. The AUD has not had anywhere near that depreciation.

I'll agree to disagree. Your way works for you, my way works for me.

Nothing to do with brexit “2008 collapse” ring a bell....

but I have the choice of your way too?