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Yes thanks for your good wishes.

I could not believe how quick they agreed it I was thinking they had rejected me and Id already started researching JRing the decision!!

I spent 2 weeks studying the full rules and considering mine and others rejections

I then put professional lever arch organised dossier together of every scrap of presentable evidence

I even made a video showing all my holidays on a cd no longer than 10 mins long

It still was not perfect application as I could not wholley overcome my girlfriends economic circumstances or letter of a job on her return

I should of done the prep first time and I accept the point I should of known better but sometimes you need a good kick.

All the best

I took the advice of GU22 , Atlas, Tariq and Scouse

I prepared a full and proper second application. I did not hide anything.

Handed in tuesday passport collected with visa for 6 months on Friday

No questions or interview

really pleased and happy with your help

Im glad I wass not ripped off by the 15000 bart scam

I thankyou so much and wish you well.

Scouce Atlas and GU22

Thanks I feel alot better for your positive responses.

All the very best

I am starting again witha new application .

Will my gf be blacklisted in any way by the first refusal?

thanks

I thank you for that responce GU22.

Yes it is correct that I have not taken the application seriously enough. I am now determined to get it right now, I am bruised but not defeated.

Sometimes in your career it is easier to focus on other peoples problems rather than your own.

I I will show all our cards , evidence of my international phone cards, 50 odd emails and around 30 pictures of us together.

I have short video film of us together but that will be more difficult to send.

Thats all I can do

Thanks

Below is a copy of the refusal letter....

"You are a single person of working age, but currently unemployed with little in the way of assets/ties or property, which might encourage your presence in your country, I am not satisfied, under these circumstances, that you are socially and ecnonomically well settled in your country, Accordingly, I am not satisfied that you intend to leave the United Kingdom at the end of the period of the visit stated.

You state on your visa application form that you wish to visit your British boyfriend, but you have failed to submit any evidence, such as emails, letters, evidence of cohabitation(if applicable) to demonstrate that you have been in a relationship with him for the last three years or that any such relationship is continuing to subsist)

In view of the foregoing and considering your application as a whole I am not satisfied, on a balance of probabilities, you are genuinely seeking entry to the UK only for hte period and purpose stated/you can demonstrate sufficient ties here so as to encourage you to leave the UK at the end of your stated visit.

I therefore refuse your applicaiton.

Your application does not attract a full right of appeal under section 82(1) of the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002.

Your right to appeal is limited to any of all of the grounds referred to in section 84(1)( and © of the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 namely:

( The decision is unlawful by virtue of section 19B of the Race Relations Act 1976 (c. 74)(discrimination by public authorities);

© That the decision is unlawful under section 6 of the Human Rights Act 1998 (c. 42)(public authority not to act contrary to Human Rights Convention) as being incompatible with the appellant's Convention rights;

The decision in this case will not prejudice any subsequent application should you wish to reapply at a future date.

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I accept I can do a hel_l of a lot more to prove the relationaship. I have over 70 email and well over 100 photographs. Also I various phone bills of phone access numbers over the last 3 years.

But I cant do anything about my girlfriends economic circumstances. Exept support her when shes here.

Do you know why my financial documents have not been returned to my girlfriend ?

So can I appeal? Or do I just re-apply?

As a solicitor of over 10 years (shame not Immg lawyer) on the roll of the Law society of Eng And Wales can I give an undertaking to the Ent Clearence officer?

Many thanks

Bad news only 5 days after our application went in APPLICATION REFUSED.

Really p*ssed off

I have not seen the refusal letter yet but apparently they were happy with my crediblity of course. The fact my girlfriend does not have a job right now , not thai assets . Also we were a little weak in showing the relationship history.But i always use phone cards I dont have dates on pictures...etc

She was not even interviewed is this normal?

The girl from the agency next door who had offerered to do the prep for 15000 bart said 'told you so' to my gf wich didn't exactly help. (Although Im tempted to pay now.)

What do I do now ? Can I appeal with new documenation? Or can I reapply ?

Any assistance appreciated.

Thanks

Yes I think your right Atlas I was missing the point regarding the relationship.

Gu22 I appreciate the warning I have taken my defence.

Taz Thanks for youre advice. My girlfriend went today ignored the agency and applied.

Good luck on Monday.

so time wil tell???

Thanks Taz

Because I am only for tourist visa do I need to prove the relationship

with hundreds of photos emails letter etc.

I have provided all the evidence i am sponsering her fully

Did you provide all the evidence of relationship.

I think the agency just trying to scare me into spending money

?

cheers

My girlfriend went down to the new visa agency centre today for the tourist visa outlined above. This is for a tourist visa 1 month.

She was told by the girl there that the application was very weak because I had not highlighted the relationship between us. ie photos , letters, phone records and she was adviced to pay 15000 bart to help the application. They were surprised I did not give a monthly allowance or invite her before!!!

As I said above the only weakness in the application is the lack of gauranteed job on return I accept that.

Maybe I'm missing the point here but this is a tourist visa im applying for...

I am not applying for a marrage or fiance visa I am just sponsoring her

Whether im a friend or boyfriend does that make such a difference?

Is the agency just trying to scare us in to paying this money?

will the Agency scupple the application if I do not pay up?

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Thanks for promp and extremely helpful replys.

You've both hit the nail on the head! The real issue is 'reason to return. She will leave her job this week as her boss are really exploiting her even by thai standards 14 to 16 hrs a day in the office . I am sure she will find a new job without difficulty, but shes already been told by 2 prospective employers that she cannot have a month off in the summer and a letter.

So the wat I see it i'll have just make sure the other grounds are extremely solid and hope for the best.

Thanks again

Im sure this is covered somewhere but i'll ask anyway.

I would like invite my thia girlfreind of 3 years over for a months holiday to the UK. She is a graduate I met her on her next to the university campus infact in the bank. I have seen her on 2 and three week holidays about 6 times now. Im really fond of her and although were both not ready for marrage ot at least im not!

She of course wants to come although Im sure she'll hate london

THE PROBLEM IS THIS.....

She works as a graduate trainee in a factory where she is worn down she is on the verge of leaving. I have no doubt she could find a new job in Bangkok.

I appreciate the Embassy will say she has no reason to return as she has no job promised; no money etc.

I am in London I have a professional and prominent career and would fully sponsor the visit and the age difference isn't massive .

Are my chances of getting her in as a tourist zero?

If so would it be better to apply for a short student visa for course through the local university?

Any other idea?