Pferdlkrantz
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My visit to the City Hall today, Monday 24.08.2020.
I deal quite extensively with some co-owners in my condo and prepared a list of questions that I thought relevant and that would cover. There was quite a crowd there, but I weaselled through and looked for an official, who parked me with one of the back-office workers. Her English was limited but she was very willing to assist, so I presented her with the list as below. Note that the answers to the questions are in italics and there is a short analysis at the end.
I represent several co-owners in a condominium in Pattaya.
Some received a letter of notification regarding the new Land Tax in the early part of the year, others have not.
We have heard that we may have to pay the tax either by the end of August or the end of September, but none of us have received any form of tax demand or invoice.
In the interests of paying on time there is certain information we would be interested in receiving:
· How is the tax amount calculated? .02% of the Land Office evaluation
· Is it based on sale price or an assessment by the Land Office? Or is it based on the size of the apartment? Land Office evaluation.
· Is there a table that can be consulted? No. It depends on the Land Office evaluation.
· In the case of a person owning more than one apartment, how is the tax calculated? The total of the Land Office evaluations is combined and there is a tax on the total.
· In the case of two apartments combined into one, is the tax demand based on the apartment now being a single apartment or still calculated as two apartments and thus subject to a higher tax demand? The total of the Land Office evaluations is combined and there is a tax on the total, the rooms are not considered separately or jointly.
· Is this information available on-line in English or any other foreign language? No
· Will we receive a tax requirement or an invoice? Should be between 01-30 September 2020
· Will other co-owners who have not received a Land Tax notice be informed in the near future? Not answered.
· What is the due date for payment? 30 September 2020
· What are the fines for non-payment or late payment? If not paid by the due date, 10% of the valuation, increasing monthly by 10%
· How are demands sent to co-owners who do not live in the condominium? Please note that post is not forwarded from the condominium to local or international addresses. They are sent only to the condominium.
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Analysis:
For every 1,000,000 of the evaluation, a Tax of 200Bt is payable. There is no lower limit, as was mooted in the original information.
If you have more than one apartment, you are taxed on the total value of the apartments, there is no extra tax. This applies whether the apartments are in separate locations or not, or if two apartments have been knocked into 1. (Good advantage here, as the Land Office doesn’t take into account the increased value of this type of apartment).
The evaluation from the Land Office is below the sale value of the apartment.
The question regarding non-receipt of the notice was very vaguely answered but I would assume not. That also went for the question of the Tax Demand/Invoice, but my feeling is that you should get there and pay if you can.
They seem not to be interested in how persons who don’t live in Thailand or can’t get back to Thailand will be informed or be expected to pay the Land Tax
Personal experience:
As I was only there to ask for information, I had brought no docs except for my passport, which was not requested. She asked for my address and Sshe accessed the Land Office database and was able to call up my apartment including the LO evaluation. I asked if I could pay it now. She said yes, and there was a 90% (nine zero %) discount IF PAID BEFORE 31 AUGUST.There was an interesting side question that might depend on personalities/locations - I'm in Pattaya, but I also asked if I could pay for other people and she replied "Sure, just bring me a table with the names and room numbers and you can pay them all."
The rest of the episode passed very quickly and easily, I paid and was gone. Including chat and waiting time it was less than an hour.
Regards P.
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Hi,
I'm in the process of designing a house that will incorporate eco-energy including solar electric and solar water heating. Has anybody any experience of purchasing, building and installation using Thai firms? Entering these terms in a search engine is very interesting; you either get companies that show a website but the website's for sale or, as in the case in Pattaya, the claimed address for the company is wasteland - and the blurb seems to indicate they deal with companies rather than private persons.
Any advice would be very welcome
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Don't know how one defines "Government Run" bus companies but the following is an account of my experience today, Friday:
North Pattaya Bus Station (Roong Reuang Coach Co. so assume it is not "Government run). Buy ticket, no problems. Instructions on entering waiting area are standard: masks everywhere. Seating is alternate window and aisle per row.
Morchit bus station. Booked a further ticket (Nakhonchai, again probably not G-R), asked for passport, supplied, no issues with being a Farang. Screens are in place as normal, about 50% of the booth operators were not wearing masks but masks were prevalent otherwise.
In short, no issues.I find it strange that the edict has not been delivered to non G-R companies.
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On 3/27/2020 at 12:31 PM, Pferdlkrantz said:
Text deleted as thainet seems to have answered all the questions I wanted to pose in my post. Thanks for that, thainet!
Regards
P
My girlfriend, bless her cotton socks, was kind enough to take the letter I photo'd and translated it through Google Translate. I append a pdf of the text for information, also a picture of the letter that I received.
There were the following documents contained in the envelope:
1. The letter in Thai
2. A second page that describes the property, what it is, whee it is and the size.
3. Clipped to them was a yellow card with red writing on it. Couldn't use photo and GT to find out what it was because of the contrast issue.
My take is that the card is only to be used if you have objections to the assessment. I base this on line 9 of the body text and assume, then, that the card need not be sent and the default of 30 days (line 12) of the body text. Please feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong.
Regards
P
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Text deleted as thainet seems to have answered all the questions I wanted to pose in my post. Thanks for that, thainet!
Regards
P
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Hi,
Situation: Due to some factors, there has been a change in management at my condo. The new Juristic Person Manager has initiated various plans, some good, some not so good. This person is also a member of our Committee. We have very soon our AGM where, under the Condominium Act, the Interim JPM has to apply to for a term as such. There have been indications that there is a sub-agenda to this in which includes the exclusion of all non-Thai in the running of the Condo.
The makeup of the Agenda is against the requirements of the Act, specifically the non-forwarding of the financial report in the stipulated period (minimum of 7 days before the AGM Condo Act 38/2) - in fact it has not been presented at all, and the non-presence of the Item "Consider other matters" (Condo Act 42/1). There are some suspicions that this person has been personally contacting fellow Thai nationals, canvassing for support in the form of proxies presumably to force this persons own private agenda through the AGM. Note this is a very brief description of what is a serious issue with many other indications that this is occurring. There have also been some changes announced with regard to the application to become a member of the Committee, as is the case with the proxy: The application for Committee membership now has to be done on a form (previously this was done on a voluntary basis at the AGM itself) The proxy form now needs a "duty stamp". Neither of these appear in the Act.
Questions:
Can the AGM be stopped due to the irregularity of the Agenda?
Is there any recourse in the event that the meeting is forced ahead despite the irregularities?
We can assume that there is some background information that we do not have with regard to the applications and proxies. Can we get this information confirmed and, in the event of any irregularities, have the result reversed?
Any help, comments would be gratefully received. Note that, with regard to the "Consider other Matters" issue: Due to the suspicious nature of some of the projects that have been initiated and the suspicion of money being siphoned off from an account, this is considered vital.
Regards
P
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On 9/24/2019 at 2:20 PM, Benmart said:
I read and watch my valuables.
Not so much the quote as the sig.
Three rules:
1. A mix of random upper and lower case letters, numbers, punctuation and other symbols.
2. A different password - and username - for every website with which you are registered, includes email addresses - and have more than one, use throwaways for a casual look that requires registration.
3. See rule 1, but make that double length.
Regards
P.
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On 2/24/2019 at 3:31 PM, Pib said:
I'm wondering if Thai banks will actually do this or this is just something immigration officers think should be easy to get. Now, I'm sure it could be done but would require the bank to key in on select codes. Guess we'll find out over the coming months are more after extension reports flow in.
And this is going to be a problem where pensions are "normally" posted to a person's account the first few days of every month but "occasionally due to weekends/holidays" a payment may be paid/post early. So early you actually reflect two payments for that month and no payments for the following month. Like a U.S. social security payment on 3 Aug and another one on 31 Aug (the 31 Aug payment would normally occur on 3 Sep but 3 Sep/Mon was a US holiday preceded by the weekend so it was paid early). This periodically happens with various US govt benefit payments like U.S. social security, military retirement, Veteran's Administration, etc.
Typically happens with the UK state pension, which is paid 4-weekly. Nice to have 13 payments in a year, but doesn't help with the Thai regs, as you suggested. Oh yes, and it's paid LATE in the case of weekends and bank holidays.
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This likes the old-age-pensioner version of clickbate. You're going to get all kinds of <deleted> transport whatever country you're in. Either suck it up or don't get in. Don't complain about it. You ain't in Europe no mo
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22 hours ago, Tayaout said:
From experience it means they don't understand. Instead of saying they don't understand they say don't have or no. For example I went to buy 1 whole chicken from some vendor that sell only chicken. I ask Khai noung and he said don't have. I point the chicken and he give me 1/2 chicken...
And if you'd said "Gai song" you'd have got two whole chickens. Probably.
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On 8/2/2019 at 1:13 PM, Skallywag said:Ah the ultimate Catch 22.
No job, no money and of course a suggestion to go seek professional help at $160 an hour. A worthy yet monetarily unattainable solution.
OP has an internet connection, maybe read about Buddhism online.
Noble truth 1: Life is filled with suffering
Join the club
Not as bad as that year when Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash all died. That was bad:
No Jobs, No Cash, No Hope. A wonder we survived.
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May only apply to Pattaya, but I don't think so, somehow.
So you’re coming down Thappraya from Jomtien to the flyover, ready to hang a left to the traffic lights and then a right into what will become 2nd road.
Wrong. They blocked it off for at the traffic lights to allow for road works from the junction where, if you’re coming from Pattaya, you turn right to get onto the Jomtien road to about 100m along 2nd road. Diversion signs? None. Mapped routes for those needing to get onto 2nd road (especially the Song Thaew’s)? None, leaving all traffic to make their way through numerous backstreets until they come out of a narrow street just past the road works. As there are numerous small roads and passages between hotels, the traffic is jammed up even more by all the traffic trying to get onto the one road that leads back to 2nd road.
Note that all the traffic from Jomtien into 2nd road is forced into 3rd road, less those who know the back streets, doubling the amount of traffic on that road. And lo and behold and to my disbelief, I saw another road gang cutting a channel along 3rd road, just where all the traffic is concentrating where those savvy enough have come down off the flyover and are trying to join the rest. "Naah", I thought, "not really".
But yes, yesterday I saw them digging up that road as well.
So, my friends and colleagues on Thai Visa, I would like your comments on a change of definition of LOS from “Land of Smile” to “Land of <deleted>”
Regards
Pferdlkranz
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23 hours ago, uzynkotak said:
The correct number is 72, not 27 or 50.
No, it's 27 - to Westerners. Don't forget Arabs read right to left
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Very well reasoned, common-sense and informative.
Thanks
Pferdlkranz
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On 3/25/2019 at 10:01 AM, mamypoko said:
Made it very easy to live abroad. Thinking it also made it impossible to live back 'home'.
Anyone else feeling that?
Ex-scaley here.
Exactly. School HK, Singapore, Malaya, Germany.
Service in Germany, and with the Navy round the Far East.
Since then visited/lived various countries from The Gambia the the US
Came back to the UK, spent some years wondering what I was doing. Ended up getting a contract in Germany and essentially stayed there ever since. Every time I had to go back to the UK it was like "What is this country doing?"
Moving around gives you IMO also the ability to pare down what you REALLY need when you decided to move.
Also, I never think of the UK as 'home'.
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Anybody know of AA for Falang in Pattaya?
Just askin'
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And nobody has had a close look at the ICM TECh advert on this site.....
E-services tax expected to take effect next year
in Jobs, Economy, Banking, Business, Investments
Posted
The tax will be passed down the line to the consumer, naturally.