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Selatan

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  1. 1 hour ago, Geoff914 said:

    And even if they can speak it can they read it? Reading it is probably far more important in business than the ability to speak it.

    Most Chinese Malaysians can read and write in Chinese. That's because Malaysia is probably the only country in the world outside China that has publicly-funded schools that have Mandarin as the main language of instruction. Even Singapore doesn't have that kind of schools - Lee Kuan Yew ended Chinese-language schools decades ago, a decision which he later regretted. Mandarin is only taught in Singapore as a single subject.

     

    Not too long ago, some Muslim groups asked the Malaysian courts to rule if Chinese schools were legal or not because they felt threatened by the rising popularity of Chinese schools among the Muslims. Fortunately, the courts ruled against them.

     

    https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3252600/malaysias-federal-court-upholds-constitutional-right-vernacular-schools-teach-chinese-tamil

  2. On 12/21/2025 at 2:46 PM, KhunLA said:

    World's largest producer, and one world's of largest consumers, speak Chinese.  Think in the business world, especially living in E Asia or SEA, it would be beneficial to be fluent in Chinese.

    Yes, it is certainly beneficial to be fluent in Chinese in this region. Malaysia, the top source of tourists to Thailand, has many Mandarin speakers. In fact, Malaysia has the most Mandarin speakers outside of Mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan. But of course, most Malaysians can speak English. Thai, Indonesian and Filipino Chinese however, mostly couldn't speak any Chinese dialect. In this region, only Chinese Malaysians and Chinese Singaporeans have retained their Chinese names and language.

  3. 6 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

    The average shows 3-5 days, but day trippers form  a large part of the  visit activity.  This is particularly pronounced in the south where day trips are common.  I don't know what you are trying to prove. I am using  Thai tourism data.  The travel pattern of the Malaysians with Thailand is similar to other regions. Laos-Thailand, Canada-USA, USA-Mexico etc.

    Day trippers from Malaysia mostly visit Thai small border towns such as Danok, Betong and Sungai Kolok. The number of visitors to these small towns are not high. And  many of them are petrol, diesel, cooking oil and sugar smugglers, not tourists. I wouldn't be surprised if most of these smugglers don't even go through immigration gates properly.

     

    https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/09/1274341/smugglers-modify-cars-carry-more-subsidised-petrol-thailand

     

    Visitors to Hat Yai would often spend a few days there because they are mostly from Malaysian cities further south such as Penang, Kulim, Taiping, Ipoh, Kampar, Sitiawan or even Kuala Lumpur. After the long drive north, it doesn't make sense for us to only spend a few hours in Hat Yai.

     

    Also, many of us Malaysians have been to Thailand many, many times before, so it wouldn't be surprising if we would only spend 3 to 5 days per trip there, around 1 to 3 times per year. Bangkok is the top destination, followed by Phuket, Hat Yai and Chiang Mai.

  4. 2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

     

     

    Why on earth would Singaporians or Malaysians fly all the way to Bangkok to shop at Big C ROFLMAO 🤣 They have their own supermarkets.

     

    Usually Chinese go there, but even they now are getting their own supermarkets who are becoming savy as to what the locals want. 

     

    The sheer volume of Malaysians crossing over at Hat Yai is astonishing. 

    LOL. Don't you Westerners have the tradition of buying gifts from the places that you visit to be given to relatives, friends and colleagues? Many of us go to Big C in Bangkok on the final day before our flight home to buy uniquely Thai foodstuffs, not things that we could get easily back home. Some of us even use the courier service at the Big C to ship boxes of foodstuffs back to Malaysia.

  5. 7 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

    Chinese Malaysians do not need to fly in from Malaysia to shop at  Big C.  Malaysia offers similar with its Lotus, Aeon, Ben's Mydin, econosave etc.    Malaysians are mostly short term visitors on average spending 3-5 days in Thailand.  In contrast, Chinese and Indian  visitors stay 7 days on average. Europeans stay longer; Approx 20 days.  with Scandinavians and UK nationals staying the longest  of that group.  The longer short term visitors stay in Thailand, the more they will spend.  The Malaysians for the most part are short term visitors, and their air fare, lodging and dining expenses  will reflect that.  

     

    Yes, there are daily flights to KUL from Bangkok. What's your point?  KUL is  Air Asia's hub and it feeds most of lots international connections through KUL. Almost all of the flights are narrow body. Thai only has 2  departures from BKK,  Malaysia airlines has 6 to its KUL hub. Using your logic,  The people who fly between London and Frankfurt (86 departures ), Hong Kong  and Seoul (30)  New York and Toronto (35 departures)  New York and Toronto (77 departures) must really enjoy the shopping.

    There you go. Can you make up your mind? Are we still mostly day trippers?

  6. 42 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

     And you would be  misinterpreting the data with that conclusion. Most of the Malaysian visitors are day trippers. Their spending is much less than that. It means  that other groups are spending much more per capita.

    Wrong. There are 22 direct flights from Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok everyday. 

     

    If you have taken any of these flights before, you would think that the passengers were mostly from China. But they are not. Most of the passengers are Chinese Malaysians. Go to the Big C Supercenter at Ratchadamri Road and ask the customers there where they are from. Chances are they are either Chinese Malaysians or Chinese Singaporeans. As a Chinese Malaysian myself, I see plenty of fellow Chinese Malaysian tourists in Bangkok. 

  7. 27 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

    Substantial down payment was paid years ago under the Prayut regime and his "arranged" Parliament approved an installment plan to payoff the balance of the acquisition. That plan cannot be altered nor delayed without agreement from China.

    So whatever the current Parliament decides now is already committed.

    The so-called "Chinese engine" is actually Chinese generator that will be modified to operate as a propulsion engine. China will certify the "engine" as functional (?) but note that China does not use the generator on any of its submarines as an engine!  So what is a certification really worth?

    CHD620 is actually a licensed-manufactured version of the German MTU396 engine. China have produced the CHD620 engines for Germany.

     

    https://www.defensemirror.com/news/35501/Chinese_Submarine_Engine_is_a_Licensed_produced_German_Powerplant__Thai_Navy_Chief

     

    The Hangor-class submarine, jointly produced by China and Pakistan, uses the CHD620 engine.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangor-class_submarine

  8. On 6/20/2025 at 2:04 AM, zmisha said:

    Well, Malaysia has its own strange politicians and crazy things they introduce. Cannot pay cash for public transportation there. So taxi is the only available transport for tourists there. Very inconvenient.

    Bus drivers were stealing bus fares by recycling tickets. Moreover, KL could only implement a single concessionary pass system for all the LRT, MRT, Monorail, BRT and bus lines if a single cashless system is employed. RM10 (for foreigners, RM6 for locals) for an unlimited day pass for all the metro lines including buses is a very good deal. You just need to buy a reloadable card (called Touch N Go) at any metro station or at the Touch N Go service center in KL Sentral. You can also use the Touch N Go card to pay for parking and tolls.

  9. 1 hour ago, roger101 said:

    I don't suppose it helps when The Times ran a Travel item a week or so ago. It stated wonderful country, beautiful beaches, incrdiblel food and lovely people, and cheaper than Thailand. The article was about Malaysia.

    https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025/05/19/china-proves-key-market-for-penang-as-tourist-visits-surge-in-2024-says-govt-rep

     

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    GEORGE TOWN: The Penang International Airport (PIA) saw a remarkable surge in Chinese tourist arrivals, with a staggering 218.86% increase in 2024 compared to the previous year, solidifying China’s position as a key foreign market for the state.

    State tourism and creative economy committee chairman Wong Hon Wai, said the number of Chinese tourists arriving through international arrivals at Penang International Airport was 5,918 in 2022, 37,711 in 2023, and 120,245 in 2024.

     

  10. 2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

    What Facts ???  i never said that anybody was innocent   there is a word ASSUMPTION !!  these people need compassion if they are still alive ??

    The date of the attack. The date they were locked up. You have biasedly assumed that they were innocent. What if they were not innocent? If you support terrorists and terrorism or simply die-hard anti China, then no need to argue any further.

  11. 2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

    yes i know where it is again since they where locked in IDC since 2011 and these stabbing ocured in 2014 i ask again  how did they support this attack 

    No group claimed responsibility for the attack and no ties to any organization have been identified,

    Locked up since 2011 or 2014?

     

    https://thediplomat.com/2025/02/thai-court-opens-hearing-into-petition-to-free-detained-uyghurs/

  12. 43 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

    if that is so, why wait 11 years??

    CAUSE with Trump in power, China knows there will be no backlash  😉

    It's a good form of deterrence, don't you think? You Uyghurs want to enter Thailand illegally we will send you to jail for years. And after we jail you for years we will chuck you back to China. See how many more Uyghurs dare to come in illegally anymore.

  13. 16 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

     

    Hi, thank you for your follow-up info.

    So Malaysia and China got an agreement of Prosecution based on the extradition of the foreign criminals(another country punishes  foreign nationals instead of their home country)?

    Or they were simply prosecuted because of their past crime in China itself, in the case you mentioned?

     

    Anyway, nice to know those lowlifes ended up in  Chinese prison(where they face the harsh enough environment that fraudsters really deserves.

     

    Always felt that the modern  1st world is often sick enough to be too nice to those unforgivable bast*rds. Their stockade conditions don't look punishing enough.

    There should be no such thing as Comfortable Punishment for those ruined other people's life(physically, psychologically,  and/or financially.

     

    Actually, the Taiwanese scammers targeted both Taiwan people and mainlanders. That's why both the mainland and Taiwanese governments wanted to arrest them. After the Taiwan authorities freed the scammers, they realized their mistake after Malaysia subsequently deported Taiwanese scammers to the mainland so eventually they jailed the freed scammers in the hope that future deportation goes to Taiwan instead of the mainland.

  14. 11 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

     

    Their most unknown exports.: Cyber Criminals?

    And what actually happened to them, after Malaysia sent them to China, instead of their home country(Taiwan)?

     

    Were they jailed there?

    Or started the same again there?

    Of course jailed there. Taiwanese scammers originally operated from Taiwan. After clampdowns by Taiwan authorities, the scammers moved to China. When mainland police cracked down on them, they moved to Southeast Asia. That's why you see Malaysian authorities caught so many Taiwanese scammers.

     

    https://topics.amcham.com.tw/2016/05/taiwans-scam-artists-go-global/

  15. 14 hours ago, Lorry said:

    Malaysia deports Taiwanese to Mainland China because Malaysia is licking China's boots.

     

    As I have said before,  Taiwanese are very valuable workers in the scamming industry,  they speak Chinese (for the main market) and English (for the US, the emerging market) and they are digital natives. 

    The bosses are mainland Chinese. 

    No scam enterprise is interested in 75y.o. Swiss computer illiterates.

     

     

     

    Already shown you the news that originally Malaysia deported the Taiwanese scammers to Taiwan, but too bad the Taiwanese gov simply released them all. Of course Malaysia got angry and deported them to mainland China instead.

     

    The Taiwanese were involved in the scamming business earlier than the mainlanders. They were not all victims, although some of them were. They are still in the business. The mainlanders have learned the business from the Taiwanese scammers.

     

    https://topics.amcham.com.tw/2016/05/taiwans-scam-artists-go-global/

     

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    Jou notes that fraud arrests in Taiwan surged nearly tenfold in the first decade of this century, from 3,200 in 2001 to 31,000 in 2009. By 2014, fraud arrests had fallen to 15,000. “It is believed that the fraudsters and their groups have moved overseas (China, Southeast Asia, other countries) since 2009,” Jou said, citing Chinese police data which indicate fraud cases rose from 130,000 in 2006 to 200,000 in 2010 and 320,000 in 2013. The first media report of a cross-Strait fraud case was published in 2010, and the first Taiwan-Vietnam fraud case appeared in 2013.

     

  16. 22 minutes ago, BrandonJT said:

    The BTS had weekly and monthly cards, but eliminated them for additional profit.  The likelihood of them coming back across multiple forms of transportation seem very unlikely as long as so much of the system is privatized.

    The metro lines of Kuala Lumpur started off as privately owned. The 1997-1998 Asian Financial Crisis bankrupted the cronies of politicians that owned the lines and had to be bailed-out via nationalization. Subsequent lines were built by the state and so a single-payment method for all the lines, including buses, was easily implemented. And because all the lines and buses of Kuala Lumpur are owned by the state, a cheap, heavily subsidized, concessionary pass could be launched. The MY50 monthly pass as it is called, is very popular, with over 220,000 subscribers.

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