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52 minutes ago, Brunolem said:
1. Western governments are inept
The numbers speak for themselves.
There is no need to search for complicated explanations, Western governments were caught with their pants down, and messed up badly when it came to dealing with the pandemic.
Not all.
eg New Zealand. Have very sensible Prime Minister. Quite lovely. Not speak rubbish.
Half the covid deaths in the world is Brazil, USA and UK. IMO this country’s Prime Minister/President is loons. Argue with doctors, bleach, promote drugs that not work.
In UK and Brazil the prime minister/president have Covid.
Boris go to covid hospital, proud to shake EVERYONE hand. I interested know about how many die because he spread it.
And Brazil guy do the same, no mask, shake hands.
Idiots. Really.
Three idiots= 500,000+ will die. World economy terrible for long time.
Which one the biggest idiot? Hmmm, not sure.
Amazing guys.
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3 hours ago, roquefort said:
Let me enlighten you on life in "Wuhan Flu plagued Europe".
What's more, they don't get run over in droves by alcohol or drug crazed drivers every day.
Er. I think everyday
In 2018, around 23 400 persons were killed in road accidents in the EU: 45% of the fatalities were passenger car drivers or passengers; 21% were pedestrians.
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16 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:Put into perspective 330,000,000 people and do the math.
Not opening the economy, such as what Thailand is doing, will have adverse effects
Thailand is open economy. No lockdown now.
Everything open now.
Because we control covid already. No infection 78 day already.
Only not open to foreigners not want quarantine. If they bring covid again must close again.
Sensible. Not loons.
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21 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:
What will you do when the Thai economy crashes?
Buy cheap land.
21 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:Just exactly how many Thai's killed themselves in that last financial crisis?
Less than 170,000
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4 hours ago, Aussie Col said:
What percentage of the Thai population has been tested?
All countrys most the people not tested.
thailand do 750,000 test already.
More than most countries. More than New Zealand.
If have lot of positive will test more.
Every test the last 78 days is negative.
4 hours ago, Aussie Col said:I know nobody who's been tested and and the friends and family i ask they know nobody either.
Which country?
4 hours ago, Aussie Col said:If you don't test anybody you wouldn't find covid-19
You test yet?
Why not?
Test not help if you have covid already. Better wear mask, stay home, not get it.
Good luck
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3 hours ago, bwpage3 said:
Disastrous epidemic?
There are 330,000,000 people. Do the math.
Ok
170,000 dead already
5 million positive
infection 50,000+ everyday
anti maskers, anti vaxxers, conspiracy theory x100
= 1 million + will die
Be 329,000,000 people.
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3 hours ago, bwpage3 said:
You think a mask prevents CV?
Yes.
Me and the doctor and scientist.
You a antimasker? Watch YouTube?
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5 minutes ago, trucking said:In big cities and tourist resorts.
Upcountry more like 400-450 for a bricklayer / plasterer or painter.
Now, with people losing their jobs in the cities etc and returning home there are more workers available for construction which keeps wages down.
I was on construction site today in Ranong. Most job the Burmese working per meter. Not per day.
Upcountry? Issan? Yes, be cheaper. Issan worker in Ranong today the site get 500 per day.
Prefer Burmese. Generally speaking Burmese better skills, work harder, polite and faster. The Issan guys drink to much. Some is lazy, Some is stupid.
Electric work 180 per point for Burmese. Install toilet 400 etc.
Today is Ranong.
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5 hours ago, scammed said:
he can thank the government decision to shut down
10 hours ago, webfact said:said he used to rely on foreign tourists
Foreign governments?
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9 hours ago, AlfHuy said:
500-600 baht a day working in construction. Yeah, right. Probably no skills at all in this business.
500-600 is normal for daily pay construction job. If monthly is less a little.
9 hours ago, AlfHuy said:I am sure Cambodians, Burmese etc don't get much more than 300baht a day.
I not know about Cambodians in Pattaya.. But I sure/know Burmese man in South get 500 daily construction. Sure.
If smart/good skills they get “per meter”. Is more than 500 daily.
eg. 120 baht per sqm tile work, brick is 50 per sqm, cement rendering is 60 sqm, chiam 20 per meter
Install window 300 per window, slide door 700, wood/plastic door 250-300.
300 a day will only be weak or fat woman not have skills.
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6 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:Life is going on quite well in Thailand...compared to the lockdowns in many others and out of control spread in the U.S. Schools and businesses are open and internal travel is unhindered...there's no other place I'd rather be at the moment.
Life in Thailand start again, schools, factorys, plazas, inside restaurants, etc. only the border is closed.
I wish it open. But can not.
Because selfish maskholes, anti vaxxers, anti tracing appers, anti social distance, anti rules people in many countrys. Stupid conspiracy theorys.
Some place even have covid party.
because this covIDIOTS is be impossible stop. They refuse the rules then cry they loose the job, business etc. Stupid people.
If allow selfish people enter Thailand because “need a holiday” covid will spread again= schools, factorys, plazas, restaurants etc will close again.
Thai people follow the rule= 5 weeks control covid.
Other countrys not wear mask, etc etc, 6 months already= it be worse.
I want covid to end SO MUCH. But be impossible with selfish idiots. Fact. Really.
if not have selfish idiots= control covid about 5 weeks, same Thailand.
The type in the video= the type “need a holiday”
only care themself.
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22 hours ago, PatOngo said:
I have tried on numerous occasions but total denial and silence is her proffered answer!
BS
I not answer because “off topic” this thread.
Here...
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Amazing USA.
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Good idea.
Maybe.
Phuket to many local people. What about them? If do it, are local people allow to leive Phuket? Be dangerous to spread.
Maybe small island be better. Local population must agree. And if leive the island, should be quarantine 14 days. Test.
Phuket, Samui be difficult control it.
Only some countrys can come. Eg New Zealand
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9 minutes ago, Grumpy John said:The warning sign for me was the trend for large companies to build new or relocate factories in other countries. A couple of years back Toyota built their mini production line in Indosnesia, Panasonic recently move some production to Vietnam. Not a lot of progress with the EEC!
Because Thai salary double Indonesia, Vietnam.
Thailand still win because infrastructure better.
How the Toyota factorys in Australia?
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/end-car-production-australia-what-went-wrong
Of all the Free Trade Agreements that Australia has with other countries, none was more brutal than the deal with Thailand introduced in 2005. Since Australia agreed to lift the import tariff on cars from Thailand, more than two million Thai-made vehicles have been imported; from familiar brands such as Ford, Holden and Toyota, as well as Honda, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Mazda and others.
In return, Australia shipped to Thailand just 100 Ford Territory SUVs. That’s because Thailand maintained hidden, non-tariff barriers while Australia opened its borders completely. Ingeniously, Thailand continued to impose higher registration fees on cars with larger engines – such as those made by Ford and Holden. Toyota already had a Camry factory in Thailand so couldn’t export cars there. Thailand – regarded as the ‘Detroit of the AsiaPacific’ – is now the second-biggest source of motor vehicles in Australia after Japan and ahead of South Korea.
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34 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:The Thai tourism model is built on high-volume, low price.
Unless you're willing to deal with ~ 30-ish million tourists, it's a waste of time and energy.
BS
Only 30+ million since three year ago.
Successful before that.
34 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:On the plus side: the environment is bouncing back brilliantly.
Agree
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30 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:The overly cautious approach, combined with extreme cowardice on the part of the administration, amounts to sadism. They are inflicting untold pain on the masses and on Thai families with foreign partners. Millions are out of work.
The process should be simplified. Anyone, from any nation should be welcome starting tomorrow.
Sorry Mr USA, no thankyou. We have no infection local case 75 days already. We beat covid, not want be same USA.
Schools open, factorys open, plaza open, inside restaurants, weddings, etc etc. We live again.
Only thing is border not open. Why we want this people come in? Argue about mask, anti vax, anti social distance, anti tracing app. Idiots.
More people die your country every 4 hour than TOTAL Thailand.
Other countrys start lockdown again. Because they stupid. Open before they control.
I loose money because covid. I not angry thai government. (About covid).
But I angry so much other countrys covIDIOTS, maskholes, anti vaxxer loons.
Fighting each other black and white, lefty and hard right etc etc.
30 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:If they are willing to support the economy by paying for quarantine, there is no risk, and only upside.
Who pay?
30 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:This appears to be extreme timidity on the part of the small and weak men in charge. And it is grossly unfair to the people in tourism.
Like Spain? Open two week, must close again.
30 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:Also, Thailand is taking alot for granted. They are assuming they will even be remembered once all the delays are over. That is alot to assume these days. Gone, and maybe forgotten?
Thai should die because USA selfish guy want holiday? Pffft.
Thailand be remembered for
Thailand ranked highest in a global survey for its effective handling of Covid-19 and recovery from the crisis. The Global Covid-19 Index (GCI), published yesterday (July 28), gave Thailand an index score of 82.06, putting it on top of the global chart as an example of best practices in tackling the dreaded virus.
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https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30392083
USA remembered for? How many want go USA for holiday now? High covid, riot and looting, police killing, mass shooting etc etc
30 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:I predict tourism will never return to it's previous levels, in our lifetime here. Caution and prudence are one thing. Inane stupidity and paralyzing fear is another.
Good. 40 million every year to many.
Damage nature to much.
I be so so happy if covid finish tomorrow in the world same thailand. Thailand win covid in 5 weeks.
Because 99% people follow the rule. If other countrys 30% refuse the rule, covid will win, sure. Forever.
I not want this selfish people come thailand for holiday. For what? Spread = close factorys, restaurants, plaza, schools etc etc again?
Nobody starving Thailand. We have lot food. We help each other.
i have good idea. Everyone in USA wear mask, wash hands, social distance, tracing app, lockdown 5 weeks. You be control covid.
THEN you be welcome thailand. We not want your virus. For what?
Many TVF member anti mask, anti vax, anti tracing app, anti social distance. I not want foreigner with selfish behavior now. Refuse listen. Care themself. One guy say he will pay the nurse throw away vaccine, not take it.
For what?
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Covid infections up and up.
Why?
Behaiviour.
One of the largest events since the beginning of the pandemic has begun in South Dakota: More than 250,000 people are expected at the iconic Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
Many who rode their bikes into Sturgis on Friday expressed defiance at the rules and restrictions that have marked life in much of the world during the pandemic.
“Screw COVID,” read the design on one T-shirt being hawked. “I went to Sturgis.”
link.
comes as the Local Government Association calls for councils to be given more powers to shut down rule-breaking pubs nationwide, as revellers once again packed into venues up and down the country last night.
More than one in four people who have tested positive for COVID-19 were not found to be at home when doorknocked by authorities on Thursday.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-31/one-in-four-not-home-covid19-positive-adf-door-knock/12511682
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17 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:
You really do talk rubbish.
There will be no Thai citizens in USA or Europe who have been refused treatment, testing or help.
In the UK and Netherlands they tell you wait till you get serious before bringing you into hospital. In some countries (correctly) you come into hospital straight away.
BUT AT NO POINT IS ANYONE WHO IS ILL IS REFUSED TREATEMENT. Even in the USA, where health insurance is a controversial topic, they will treat anyone with covid free. Please don't talk utter rubbish.
BS
It is thought that as many as 16,000 people died because they didn't get medical care between March 23 and May 1.
up to 25,000 deaths would have come in the first six months because of healthcare delays,
link
16,000
That only U.K.
I show you link, and video of real people explain.
You not read, look, just argue.
Talk rubbish.
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3 hours ago, Justgrazing said:
No in the context of this article it isn't .. why do we have to have the graphs comparing the U S with Thailand when the article is about U S politics .. it is a common theme running though the contributions of the member to big up Thailand's perceived success in the fight against C V and at the same time diss' other countries response to it with an air of dare I say superiority .. even when the article doesn't appertain to Thailand in particular ..
Is tiresome the US etc will not control.
Annoying.
Selfish
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23 hours ago, rupert the bear said:
testing on arrival and the govt pays for it so people can travel.got it thailand ,listen and learn.millions of jobs your losing and also firms going bust,tourism construction real estate manufacturing.so get around it. a test on arrival.we all know u dont do thinking ahead or planning,anticipation.but it works and you will save the country.otherwise the peasants will become revolting!then you wont be so important anymore so theres really so much at stake.just have to pay up now for the test,no racist rip offs !can it be done,aghhh dont hold ur breath but this is the way out.quick jump on the train before it leaves the station.
OP about increase in Germany covid.
= you thai bashing post.
Thailand ranked highest in a global survey for its effective handling of Covid-19 and recovery from the crisis. The Global Covid-19 Index (GCI), published yesterday (July 28), gave Thailand an index score of 82.06, putting it on top of the global chart as an example of best practices in tackling the dreaded virus
https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30392083
Germany 15th worse in the world covid.
10,000 die already.
Thailand control covid 5 weeks.
When Germany control same, be welcome to Thailand. Not now.
Not want covid return same Germany.
Thailnd not want to copy Germany.
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1 hour ago, rooster59 said:Democrats said they offered to reduce a proposed $3.4 trillion coronavirus aid package, which the House passed in May but the Senate ignored, by nearly one-third if Republicans would agree to more than double their $1 trillion counter-offer.
They stupid. Money not control covid.
Behavior control covid.
Wear mask, wash hands, social distance, stay home, tracing app.
Control about 5 weeks same thailand.
But anti masker, riot and protests, covid party, anti vaxxer, refuse the app= not control, terrible economy, trillion++ waste money.
Listen what doctor say, not politics loon.
i boring this idiots. Selfish.
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13 hours ago, fredwiggy said:
letting Thai's come back and not quarantine is ignorance and stupidity. And prejudice.
You confused.
thais must quarantine.
The OP say it.
On 8/6/2020 at 11:56 AM, webfact said:latest cases are a 42-year-old man and a 62-year-old woman who returned from the United States on July 31 and were found to be positive on August 4 in Chon Buri state quarantine.
You post confused everything. To much. I lazy explain for you.
32 Pheu Thai MPs vow to stand by student protesters
in Thailand News
Posted
They win 4 election.
up to the people right?
They win the election last time same.
But
parliamentarians should consider the fact that Prayut lacks a mandate from the people since he did not run for election. Also, he is the sole PM candidate nominated by Phalang Pracharat, which failed to win a majority of seats in the March election and thereby has little in the way of legitimacy to form a government.
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https://www.nationthailand.com/opinion/30370562