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She must have been naturalized before 1992. Since then there was no need to renounce Thai citizenship. If she knows where she was registered before they can find it. 

The only thing that family has found so far is the divorce papers between mom and step dad. Not sure if that would be enough? I am backing out of this a while since he is resistant to doing anything to help his current situation. I discovered that this child is actually 50 years old. Appreciate the help and advice that you all have provided. Will check back later this week.

I tried to google this for more information and came up with nothing regarding a Thai man being deported. Are you sure this is true? If so a little more information is needed. Since the information has been vague, it's hard to believe. There's information about other nationalities but nothing that matches this case. 

The SEA community in California and elsewhere in the US, is quite good at gaming the system. I'm sure they know the resources available and have probably used them. Although Thai, there are many Lao immigrants and they have a network of resources. They even told me they could help if needed because I speak Thai. I didn't accept.

The US does not deport people convicted of misdemeanor crimes.  If a person has committed a felony crime then they are eligible to be deported if they are not a US citizen.  Given that the Thai person in this case is not a US citizen he most likely committed a felony crime of some sort so that is why he is being deported.  There are many types of non-violent felonies that he could have committed to qualify him for deportation.  It is too bad that his step Dad and his mother never went through the process to have him become a naturalized US citizen as this 45 year old man is now suffering the consequences for it.  He can attempt to get an immigration lawyer to stop the deportation orders but it is very difficult to do so.

Whatever Thai he knew was lost. English was the primary language at home. I hope that he can pick it up quickly once he is there. He accepts full responsibility for the situation that he is in. He has worked steadily. In fact he was working as a security guard prior to this last thing when he stupidly tried to outrun a cop that was trying to stop him for speeding on his motorcycle. There were other things in his past, long ago. Not sure what (long before I knew him) but not car theft and not drugs. Just stupid things. Makes bad decisions.

He talks with other detainees at the detention center and that's where he got the idea that he could be put into a Thai jail. He is psychologically worn out now, doesn't have any fight left in him and just wants to go.

2 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

It he has an unserved jail sentence expect it could be an exchange of prisoners and jail time possible but am not an authority on such.  

He served his full sentence and ICE picked him up when he was released.  He has now been in detention longer than he was in jail.

19 minutes ago, meand said:

He has got to start learning Thai asap. Does he speak no Thai? He is essentially going to be a foreigner here no matter how many times he tells people he is "Thai". Once he tells them he is Thai in Thai, things are going to get a lot easier for him. Myself I would focus the vast majority of my efforts on learning the language and proper pronunciations etc. 

Maybe a few words but essentially none.  Am hopeful that he can pick it up quickly.  His American stepdad speaks more Thai than he does from being stationed there and from being married to a Thai for many years.  You should have seen the look on a Thai taxi driver's face when he referred to Trump as bo ba ba lo. 

Saw him today and for some reason he is concerned that they would put him in a Thai jail when he got there.  I have no idea why that would be as he has done nothing wrong in Thailand.  Does anyone know if that's a serious possibility?  As far as I have seen on the internet is that different countries do different things with regards to deportees.  My guess is that they would just cut him loose at the airport.

31 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Might contact her former husband if still alive as he might have some information to share and believe you mentioned a sister and why would she have the same problem if born in USA (or are you saying both were born in Thailand and traveled with mother)?

 

If appeal possible would go that route first as this surely ranks as cruel if not unusual punishment after 40 years stay (even for the current crowd in DC).

 

I never got the full story on the kids' dad but long gone.  Nobody talks about it.  Yes he has a sister also born in Thailand.  Both came to the U.S. as military dependents.  

Just now, lopburi3 said:

https://toplawyer.law/crimes-that-make-immigrant-deportable

 

Get as much information as possible for locating relatives of mother as this will be best chance for support and home registration.  

Working that angle.  Mom is elderly now with dementia so this could be interesting.

8 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Yes he can if convicted. I personally know a Thai person in his 40's who was tossed out of the US about 12 years ago. 

Yes, the U.S. is within their rights to deport him however unfair it seems especially for the nonviolent nature of his crime, so we are just trying to help make the transition easier for him when the time comes.

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

This person was born in Thailand, right? Where? Is there a local birth record?

 

How was this person transported to the U.S.? On a valid visa? If so, what type of visa?

 

What is this person's current status in the U.S.? Are they being held at a detention facility? Have they been released pending a hearing? Arranging legal representation in the U.S. might be the best short-term option, but so much is unknown about this individual's case.

 

I guess I'd be surprised if this person could be deported to Thailand without the approval of the Thai government/MFA, and their representatives in Washington, DC? I mean the U.S. isn't like Thailand, smuggling ~ 100 Uighers back to China ziptied to the seats with black bags over their heads.

 

Based in the President's pronouncments Friday, we should probably be preparing for quite a few more Thais to be rounded up and re-patriated. 

 

 

He arrived with his US military stepdad and Thai mother so assume as a military dependent.  All papers related to that are long gone.  Parents divorced and no one kept anything (yes, I know...).  The biggest issue right now is anyone proving that he is a Thai national with no papers.  No papers will make it hard to get Thai ID.  Sounds like they (ICE?) are still trying to find hospital birth records to prove this.  So maybe he's in luck there.  The flip side is that they could keep him in the detention center for a very long time.  

Yes, Trump will try to deport anyone if he can.  His sister has the same situation but she has stayed out of trouble.  Yes, it's been suggested that she get U.S. citizenship but she just shrugs her shoulders. 

1 hour ago, jackdd said:

As a Thai he can get free treatment in the government hospital which is responsible for the area where he is registered (after he is registered and has his Thai id card).

So at the beginning he probably has to buy it himself.

How does he go about getting registered?

10 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I think the first thing that should be done is to contact Thai embassy or one of the official consulates in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles. They may be able to help him since is a Thai citizen.

Does he have a Thai passport ? He would need that or a certificate of identity when he enters Thailand.

I assume he has had permanent residence in the US for all the years he was there. There is a appeal process for the deportation order.

It is possible that he will actually make his way to Ubon as that is where his mother is from. Could be some distant relatives still around.

Of course he will try to find some odd jobs and is a hard worker.

Other problem is that he is diabetic and will need to get his medicines right away.

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I think the first thing that should be done is to contact Thai embassy or one of the official consulates in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles. They may be able to help him since is a Thai citizen.
Does he have a Thai passport ? He would need that or a certificate of identity when he enters Thailand.
I assume he has had permanent residence in the US for all the years he was there. There is a appeal process for the deportation order.

Hello,  more than 10 years ago I helped another person in exactly the same situation.  He was born in Thailand during the Vietnam war period to a Thai mother and unknown father.  She later managed to acquire a "Green Card" status to the USA and came to the USA iwith her 4 year old son, and he grew up never knowing he was not a USA citizen, and his mom just stayed on a "Green Card" status.  He was arrested and jailed when he was in his 20's and when his sentence was over USA Immigration gave him a faded Thai birth hospital paper, and put him on a plane to Thailand.  He was in shock, having no idea what was happening to him.
 
His sister (who is in one of churches in the USA) somehow found my phone number and called me from the USA while he was still on the plane to Thailand.  We met him at the airport when he arrived and took him to the "backpacker area" back then in Bangkok (Khaosan Road).  He was a non-citizen of the USA and a non-citizen of Thailand, so quasi-illegal for him to be anywhere or work anywhere in Thailand, just like non-Thai-Citizen "Hill Tribe" people in Thailand.  I told him to "learn from the other foreigners in that area who somehow manage to live illegally in Bangkok and make ends meet."   I had no real idea what to do to help him.  He had no money, couldn't speak Thai, and was a non-citizen.  I gave him a cell phone and some money, and we helped him frequently for the next year or so.
 
He did manage over time to become a "friend" of a lady in some sort of real estate business and she protected him, helped him, and he was basically "OK".
 
It took several years, but he and his sister in the USA managed to convince his mother to get USA citizenship, and then come to Thailand to dig up sufficient proof that he was born to her, and that she was a Thai citizen.  The hospital was closed where he was born, but they managed to find a doctor or some nurses to vouch for him being born in that hospital to her (as indicated by that faded Thai birth paper from the closed hospital).  Then they had various Thai relatives vouch for her.  Then they had two dna tests performed in Thailand to prove that he was her close blood-relative (offspring).  And finally after about 5 years of this process of verification he gained his Thai citizenship.  But still cannot speak Thai and relies on his long-time lady friend for helping him find work to do.  Note, that the Thai government was not interested in helping at all.  Just allowed him to be deported to Thailand because of that Thai hospital paper, and then abandoned him at the Bangkok airport.
 
If you want to give me a pm with an email address I can ask the person I helped if he would be willing to correspond directly with you about what he had to do.  He is a likeable person, but was a stupid member of some gang in the USA which landed him in jail and deported.  He is quite grateful for everything we did, and stays in contact often.  He is not a "hardened criminal" or "dangerous" in any sense of those words.  

What passport is he holding ?

So where are the Thai relatives? That would be my angle.

I am trying to gather information for a relative that is being deported soon from the U.S.  His mother is Thai, his stepfather was US military.  He came to the US when he was about 5 with his mom and stepdad and has been in the US for about 40 years now.  He got into some trouble with the law (no violent crime) but now they are going to deport him to a country where he knows nobody.  His mother became a US citizen after he turned 18 and he never bothered to get naturalized and he was never legally adopted by his American stepdad.  

This is new news to him and to us.  Just wondering if anyone knows what the Thai will do with him once he arrives in Bangkok?  Is there available assistance for him to help get him set up there?  He has some money and his US family will help, but initially he will arrive with very little.  

Not sure if this is the correct forum to ask about this.  If not I would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction. Thanks.