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37 minutes ago, yogavnture said:i wonder how well chinese tourists will get along with other europeans and westerners after things open up/..............i wonder if hostility towards chinese will occur due to covid anger
I highly doubt that any tourists will show hostility towards each other because of the pandemic. Most people travel and go on vacation to have a nice and enjoyable experience. The vast majority of Europeans don't blame the Chinese people for the virus outbreak either, and East Asian people, including the Chinese, are still very much liked and respected in Europe. As far as I know, the same holds true for North America even though there tend to be some antagonism between its different minorities. That being said, neither Europeans nor the Chinese will likely return to Thailand in significant numbers anytime soon.
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It isn't really that uncommon for Russia to conduct so-called cyber attacks against Norwegian government facilities and private entities. This is something that's been going on for decades in one form or another. It should also be mentioned that these activities have been gradually declining over the last few years. Stories about such "attacks" usually aren't newsworthy because most intrusion attempts are detected and repelled, and the whole dynamic is rather well-known and not that interesting in the context of the Norwegian news media.
Add to that, Norway tries to maintain a cordial relationship with Russia and therefore the government prefer to avoid criticizing Russia for what it considers to be lesser infractions. Basically, Norway's relationship with Russia is similar to Norway's relationship with China, in that China conducts widespread espionage against Norwegian companies and interests in Norway and abroad, but the Norwegian government is very reluctant to criticize China. All of this means that the issues above, as far as Russia and China are concerned, seldom receive major news coverage.
What's interesting in this news story is that Norwegian government actually went to the press in order to shed light on the Russian activities. That rarely happens and when it does, it's usually because the Norwegian government tries to appear assertive and wishes to gain political favor either among the Norwegian people or allied countries. In this case, probably both because there is an election in Norway next year, as well as an attempt to show solidarity with Germany and the EU in their recent increase of political pressure on Russia.-
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8 hours ago, Trillian said:
Tourism is less than 12% of GDP it is not the main source of revenue by a long way.
In April of this year, Dhanin Chearavanont stated that 'The tourism industry is one of Thailand's main economic sectors, accounting for 16-17% of GDP.' Official government sources have frequently put forth similar statements while underlining the need for getting tourism going again for the sake of the overall Thai economy. This is because various enterprises indirectly linked to tourism suffer from a reduced customer base and low economic activity as well.
The Thai government and businesses hope that increased domestic tourism will manage to soften the blow from the lack of foreign tourists. I think such an increase will do that to some extent, but unfortunately for Thailand, it's likely that any positive impacts will be highly localized, and it's doubtful that an overall increase in domestic tourism will be significant enough for its industry to overcome the many challenges it faces as a whole.
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39 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:As Whites make up a higher percent of the population ,more Whites should be begetting shot .
Need to get the figure up to 50 %
I know you're joking, of course. But if one was to include White-Hispanics in the statistics as White people, that figure already exceeds 50%. By the way, I also believe socioeconomic factors are the main reasons for the crime which various communities in the U.S are experiencing. And while racism might be one of many factors holding those communities back, I don't believe at all that racism is the main reason for inequality and poverty. Other groups of people in the country do comparably well in relation to each other, generally speaking. There are also Black people who do very well too and its middle class has been growing for a relatively long time. However, many Black people seem to suffer from a cultural problem which manifests itself in dysfunction, at least according to the Black people I know, and it creates a very poor environment for people who aspire to better themselves and improve their communities.
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4 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:
I disagree , White kids are also told (by their parents) to do what a Policemen says (and not to be rude)
Generally speaking, that might be true. However, statistics from the Department of Justice show that White people, more often than any other group in the U.S, are shot to death by the police. From 2017 until 2020, about 40% of those shot to death by the police were White, about 22% were Black, about 16% were Hispanics and about 22% were others.
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15 hours ago, Parsve said:
And in the same time researchers in Europe try to find out if nicotin have any positive effect on Corona as they have found out that there is less smokers than non-smokers that have been infected.
That's true. With information emerging from different countries, the Norwegian Institute of Public Health no longer consider smoking a distinct risk factor for severe COVID-19 progression. Smoking was removed from list of risk factors in April of 2020. Statistics from Norway also indicate that smokers are less vulnerable to COVID-19 progression than the general population. Similar findings have been made in the UK, and in other countries as well, as far as I understand. But one should keep in mind that diseases related to smoking might still be considered risk factors.
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It's understandable that the Chinese leadership seek to publicly redirect focus to the Taiwan issue as China suffers from an increasing number of domestic challenges. The international political climate favors such redirection as well as China's reputation has already been tarnished, rightfully or not. By taking a more aggressive stance towards Taiwan at this time, the Chinese leadership might gain favor among some of its people and can outline new political principles without creating too much additional distrust.
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3 hours ago, dinsdale said:
Over 2000 by end of the wk. Maybe more. It depends how they are testing and assigning cause of death. Heard that Germany is putting cause of death down to underlying conditions. If you get the virus and that complicates the uderlying condition that leads to death then it's the underlying condition that killed you. The fact that this would not have happened if you did not get the virus doesn't matter. Germany as of yesterday: 62,465 cases with 541 deaths. Anyway I still think Thailand's numbers do not reflect what's happening. Back to Don't test. Don't tell. And also how are they determining cause of death. Still where i am there's high 90% wearing masks. The next couple of wk should show if this is flattening out. Of course if there was more much testing we would be seeing a different picture.
I agree with most of what you wrote. But while I'm not stating that you're wrong about Germany, I doubt that's true in its case. The mortality rate of covid-19 in Germany is only a bit higher than in Norway, where it's about 0.55%, and Norway doesn't automatically attribute the cause of death to an underlying condition either. While every infected person who've died in Norway have had an underlying condition, the causes of death for those are still registered as covid-19. https://www.fhi.no/en/id/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/
But I definitely agree with you that Thailand's numbers may not reflect what's happening. As you wrote, it comes down to testing and assigning cause of death. Because of those issues, we might not see an exponential growth in the infection rate or death rate in Thailand at all, especially if testing doesn't become more widespread. The mortality rate of covid-19 in Thailand will likely appear to remain very low as well. But something similar might happen with large-scale testing too, as seen in Germany and Norway. Both countries have tested a relatively large number of people and identified several cases in every age group ranging from 0-100+. As most people won't become seriously ill from covid-19, and young and healthy people cope better with the infection than others, that brings the mortality rate down statistically.
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While it's interesting to compare statistics, I agree with the other posters who have pointed out that the methods may differ significantly between countries. The procedures for testing and access to testing equipment vary, and some countries, such as Thailand, have significant regional differences in terms of services. The quality of documentation may vary as well. For example in Norway, we don't register or publish recovered or so-called cleared cases, at least as far as I know. However, the number of tested and infected people is registered, as well as the number of hospital admissions linked to Covid-19, type of treatment required and deaths.
The Norwegian Directorate of Health publishes updated statistics every day and here are some figures from Norway for those who might be interested. As of March 22, 54393 people in Norway have been tested for Covid-19 and 2132 have tested positive. The average age of the infected people is 47 years, 54.7% are men and 45.3% are women. Of those infected, 169 are admitted to hospital for observation or treatment, and 32 of them have received intensive care. A total of 7 people have died due to Covid-19 and the average age of those who died is 89 years. The mortality rate of Covid-19 in Norway is currently at 0.33%.
Edit: Source https://www.helsedirektoratet.no/english
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"Vaccine Passport" for Thais - here's how it might look for foreigners
in Thailand News
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Not to be that guy, but what you write isn't entirely accurate either. Case fatality rates range from about 0.5% and upwards in developed countries with facilities like the ones you describe. For example in Norway, the fatality rate is about 0.75%. In regards to treatment, about 5% of cases in Norway have required hospitalization or serious medical attention. Of the cases requiring treatment, about 35-40% of patients are foreign-born by the way.