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36 minutes ago, SomeFarang said:American guy of European descent
Is that code for something?
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18 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
60/70 year olds going out "on the pull" and pulling prostitutes are sort of stuck in a time warp . where the year is 1969 and they are still 20 years old
Aside from your disapproval, is there supposed to be some kind of downside to this?
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Commentary on flaws in this non-peer-reviewed study. In particular, because early action (China, Australia, etc.) doesn't reduce non-existent deaths, it isn't counted as effective.
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The person who writes these headlines is doing Thailand a great disservice.
As the article points out, Covid is "sweeping the US and Europe with record numbers," Thai hospitals are "bracing for worse days to come," and Omicron payouts are "overstretching" insurance companies.
The government has changed its arrival policy in response to new information and new circumstances since Test & Go was originally devised -- in particular, that fully vaccinated travelers may be infected, and infections may be missed because of smaller testing windows. Tourists have changed their plans because holiday travelers usually have shorter vacation times.
Any "panic" reflects the writer's own opinions about Thailand's Covid policy, and not the facts nor responses to them.
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1 hour ago, dr_lucas said:
What's the TL;DR?
I think it's that the OP / "news team" is employed by the site host to write a weekly "Thailand News Review," and is probably either paid by the word, or is simply encouraged to say as many provocative things as possible in order to attract SEOs and advertising. Perhaps the OP can add to or correct this impression?
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19 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:you remind me of the guy in the gym yesterday,came over near me to use a machine and complained i had no mask on,<deleted> stop coming to the gym i told him if ya that paranoid
Great, thank you for not joining my gym.
My experience has been 100% that the occasional unmasked person at my gym will mask up if asked politely, while also pointing out that a) it's a posted requirement of this and all other fitness centers in Thailand, and b) at my age there's no up-side to losing that extra margin of safety. Full staff support too, I'd add -- they did not enjoy being out of work for the months that gyms were closed down here.
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3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
Yes the chart is complied by me.
Great, thanks! For your consideration: a line showing seven day moving average of the daily PCR+ATK total?
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20 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
Data is from the link that is also provided in the post, this one https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/ you can set the date and track back.
Sorry if I'm being dumb here -- are you getting the data then making the PCR+ATK bar graph yourself? I can't find it on the MOPH site.
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Bkk Brian, can you please clarify the source of the very helpful two-tone green bar chart of PCR and ATK totals? Thanks.
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6 hours ago, rickudon said:
What they didn't say is how many would have suffered if not vaccinated. The increased risk may be just a few cases per 100,000.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00451-5/fulltext
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1473-3099(21)00451-5 (pdf link)
Table 1 shows that the expected number of unrelated "background" cases during an equivalent period in 2020 was about 26+/-3 per 100,000. The inactivated vaccine (CoronaVac) is believed tohave causedbe associated with an additional 4.8 cases per 100,000, while the mRNA (Pfizer)have causedis thought to be associated with additional 2 cases per 100,000. In other words, for every person who is affected by the vaccine, 5-10 times as many people will coincidentally develop Bell's Palsy for reasons having nothing to do with vaccination.The effect size is very small. It is also important to note that the investigation compared two different vaccine technologies for which data were readily available -- Sinovac (inactivated virus) and Pfizer (mRNA) It did not compare Sinovac or Pfizer against other vaccines of the same types. Other vaccines use the same inactivated virus tech as Sinovac (for rabies, influenza, Hep A, etc.), and possible increased incidence of Bell's Palsy for these diseases and vaccines have been investigated elsewhere.
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This is not a "Government Program" that provided vaccines to embassy workers, this was the State Department choosing to use public funds to vaccinate their employees. No program.
Actually, Operation Warp Speed bought hundreds of millions of doses, which the federal government distributes for free (often adding funding to manage vaccination programs). The Dep't of Health & Human Services allocates shots to 5 federal agencies -- State, Defense, VA, Prisons, and Indian Affairs -- using the same formula used for distribution to the states and territories. Some details are provided here:
https://www.ft.com/content/8212dd93-959d-40ad-ab52-87dc05fbe0ad
“The department is one of several federal agencies receiving vaccine allotments due to our national security mandate,” (Anthony Blinken, Sec. of State) ...
The Department of Health and Human Services said it allocates a percentage of available vaccine doses weekly to five federal entities, including the state and defence departments, proportional to the adult population of each.-
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Taxpaying US citizen here.
Although the Embassy response to citizen concerns has been atrocious, it still seems perfectly reasonable to vaccinate US gov staff, including Embassy and JUSMAAGTHAI (and other military and gov research personnel) here. They are a tiny number compared to the expat population, and may, sooner or later, provide essential services to us. Treating them doesn't undermine the general principle that we're responsible for our own healthcare when we're overseas.And I am quite proud that US policy has supported allocating a portion -- 150,000 -- of our donated vaccines to all expats in greatest need, regardless of nationality -- those over 60, pregnant, or with one of the listed health issues -- rather than being reserved for younger US nationals at much lower risk. And who can greatly mitigate (although not completely eliminate) that risk with readily available Sinovac right now.
I'd also point out that US expats under 60 are more likely to be working, and thus more likely to benefit from the expat taxable income exclusion, which is $107,600 for 2020, in addition to avoiding state tax liability as non-residents. The exclusion is partly based on the assumption that expats will make fewer calls on US services, independent of tax obligations in their countries of residence. It seems to me that the expectation of automatically being provided with a particular vaccine because Americans who live in the USA can get it is one of these.
Finally, I'm writing this less in response to the OP than to non-American lurkers on this thread, just to make the point that while we red-blooded Murkins might not agree with particular officials or specific policies, we can also cool our jets (i.e. flame off) and appreciate the larger picture. And to suggest to my compatriots that members of Congress -- in particular, Tammy Duckworth, although I'm sure there are others -- should be thanked for what they are accomplishing in getting vaccines to Thailand, rather than blamed for what they are not.
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https://www.verywellhealth.com/how-to-show-proof-of-vaccination-new-york-city-5196619
which says:
- You can show your paper COVID-19 vaccination card or use the official apps to enter indoor venues like restaurants, bars, and movie theaters in New York City.
- The New York State Excelsior Pass only works for those who have been vaccinated in the state. Out-of-state visitors will have to opt for the city's NYC COVID Safe app.
- For international visitors, all WHO-authorized vaccines are acceptable, according to the NYC mayor's press office.
Regarding the NFL, I suspect that if they have a way to let unvaccinated QBs (like Lamar Jackson, who is the Ravens starter against the Raiders) into the stadium, there will be an arrangement that lets their app verify overseas WHO-authorized vaccines.
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... live in a location requiring proof of a US recognized vaccination for entry into businesses,
Where is this requirement in effect?
I just looked at a couple of state vaccine passport card requirements. My impression is that anybody vaxed out of state or country must have a local healthcare provider verify the vaccination. No special requirements for US or CDC vaccine approval.
You are in the same position as many Europeans who have gotten AstraZeneca -- also approved by the WHO (like Sinovac) but not the CDC -- who will need to have their foreign record checked by a local provider, even if they got Pfizer shots.
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This story is at least two weeks old. The press release appeared, and was widely reported, on July 23:
The press release comments on a non-peer-reviewed preprint published on July 16:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.28.21259420v2
Thai government to tax (remitted) income from abroad for tax residents starting 2024
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Complicated!