On 2/4/2020 at 7:05 AM, Crazy Alex said:

Democrats should be careful about continuing this obsession of getting Trump out of office- especially when they say things like "we can't trust the ballot box". People will be rolling their eyes more and more as Democrats continue this partisan, obsessive behavior.

They remind me of Momentum in the UK. Their carer needs to take the spade away so they stop digging.

On 2/10/2020 at 6:43 AM, Rookiescot said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46366162

 

Meh facts eh? Who needs them. We got blue passports.

The BBC... Brexit Bashing Continuum... "facts", hmmm....

7 hours ago, samran said:

Sorry my post was way above your pay grade there Trans.

 

Ill type more slowly for you next time...

for a moment there, it looked like you wrote "gay parade trans"... i'll read more slowly next time...

On 2/9/2020 at 10:41 PM, sjaak327 said:

GIve it a few years and there hardly is anything to trade with the UK. It boggles the mind how those people voted in favor of Brexit, didn't even bloody think. Emotion is never a good guideline. The UK will find out. It is hardly rocket science. One tiny little country, or >20, only an idiot would believe that the negotiation power of the latter would be the same as that of the former. You cannot fix stupid. 

What do you actually base that on, because it can't be facts.

How would any of the larger economies of the world in "a few years" have "hardly anything to trade with", how does that work? 

How is a country with a population of over 60m, and one of the largest economies in the world in any sense "tiny"?

Surely a tiny country is one like Nauru, San Marino, Grenada, or the Comoros?

Do you think that when you use words like "boggles" "stupid" and "idiot" and "bloody" that your line about "emotion" starts to look a little misplaced?

Just now, Rookiescot said:

So there we have it.

Its all about immigration. 

It's got a lot to do with it, and it's no big secret. It's not /all/ about immigration, but immigration affects economic, especially when it's pushed for left-wing ideological reasons, and not for credible economic reasons... unprecedentedly high... and unplanned for. 

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well you are, you just need to keep denying the Brexit failures as they arise.

There are no Brexit failures, we only just left.

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Given the UK’s appalling and stagnant productivity rates I’m not sure any Brexiteer is in a position give any meaningful comment on Germany cutting costs.

That's not a meaningful comment.

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You seem to have forgotten that Brexit promise to spend an extra £350,000,0000 a week on the NHS.

 

 

Not forgotten, it can still be spent, whilst cutting away all the waste and <deleted> to reduce the cost.

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I understand that Brexiters don't read it.

How could they still look in a mirror after they realize that they ignored all the important facts for years?

I guess it's so much easier to stay ignorant and trust Boris. ???? 

The Mirror is even worse than the Guardian, it's a comic, but at least they can spell. You won't find many facts in such badly-edited rags as those, reading them is ideal if you want to remain ignorant.

52 minutes ago, rhyddid said:

This means
EU products will be more expensive for UK citizens, which they need on daily basis, since UK alone can not produce them 

UK products will be expensive in EU which EU citizens can easily have them substitutes with EU products.

Excellent economic move, that will punish UK citizens, good maybe next time they will ask to re join EU .

EU products might be, it depends whether the producers find ways of reducing their production costs. I don't think anyone "needs" wine and sportscars, the UK produces plenty and many things are available from outside the EU at competitive prices and quality. Similarly, not all UK products are needed or can be substituted. Individual countries in the EU will have no advantage in substituting imports over the UK substituting imports; over time the UK will be able to substitute with more agility than them. Nobody will be clamouring to rejoin when the Italian banking crisis starts.

38 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Alternatively we can sell out to the US and eat their lovely chlorinated chicken in return.

You know when you sterilise your kitchen worktops with dettol before preparing meat and veg, do you know what's in it? Have a guess...

32 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

The Germans simply wait, till the UK - but all foreign owned- car plants are shut down: economies of scale...

Are you suggesting that Germany will stop exporting cars to the UK, see it's factories mothballed, and staff laid off to play some kind of banal long game? What point is it that you're trying to make?

24 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Again a Brit, who did NOT search on Internet first before filing his comment..

EU-28 unemployment at 6.2 % in December 2019, lowest since the start of the EU monthly unemployment series in January 2000.  

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Unemployment_statistics

 

The European Union economy grew by 1.1 percent year-on-year in the fourth quarter of 2019, easing from a 1.4 percent expansion in the previous period, a preliminary estimate showed.

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/gdp-annual-growth-rate?continent=europe  

The entire history of the EU is one of terribly low growth and high youth unemployment.

This is particularly a problem in the mediterranean countries including France.

3 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said:

A customer? Really?

 

47% of all british exports were sent to the EU (2017). If there will be tax borders from next year on, the british economy will be hurt more than the EU's (for the moment).

No, fewer than 47% of UK exports go to the 10 largest economies of the EU (the WEU7 comprise over 80% of EU trade). Get some up-to-date figures and observe the decline in UK exports to EU countries.

The EU doesn't have an economy, because it's not a country. Inidivual countries in the EU, Germany in particular will be worse affected than the UK by a significant amount.

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

In what way was the UK's economic future being stolen?

The historically unprecedented mass immigration promulgated under New Labour resulted in the acceleration of land prices, and the evaporation of low-skilled jobs. This pincer movement undermined the position of young people embarking on their careers. Immigration caused the cost-of-living crisis.

Voting for more immigration is undermining your own chances to find work and own your own home.

I'm a gross underachiever... every time I've stuck my head above the parapet to try and get ahead, I've been shot down, by my a tiny noisy slimy minority, seething with professional jealousy. They did great harm, to more people than they realised, and they were allowed to get away with it, facilitated even.

Should have achieved far more by now, but the attacks never stop. I have to hide any success now, the cost of getting where I am was way too high, but the alternative paths were way worse. The few successes I have managed to smuggle past my enemies, have helped me help myself when needed. Very tired of it all now.

Don't really have much motivation or energy left, but I can at least distract myself and others from the futile monotony of existence with vile immature jokes. Glad to be out of the UK at last, and as long as I can get to the end of what I'm writing, I am not really bothered about anything else. "desire creates suffering", Buddha said.

4 minutes ago, samran said:

What were you saying about ‘dreary repetitive toss’?

Self-awareness is the first step to recovery.

Just now, Rookiescot said:

Oh the video is lying.

Ah right gotcha now.

So when Farage says "We will be just like Norway" what he was actually saying is "We will be nothing like Norway".

No, when the video says Leavers wanted to stay inside the single market, the video is lying. Is it clear?

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Cant find them.

Please list them again for me.

On another thread, use your evident computer operating capability to find them, I'm not for hire.

1 minute ago, samran said:

Well when multiple posters - over many many months - can’t help repeatedly making a big deal or taking cheap shots at my background then you do wonder...

 

Thing like this are BIG deal for them, life experience has shown. 

You sound a bit paranoid, tbh. If you want to make a show of your identity in public, it shouldn't be a surprise if it's referred to sometimes, but that's not what was happening here.

My kids are the same as you, and wouldn't encourage them to make a big show of it. 

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

They lied to you.

You guys simply refuse to see it.

Remain lied to you, and you simply refuse to see it. Why would you vote for your own economic future to be stolen from you by voting to remain in the EU?!

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Nobody voted for hard Brexit.

 

This is what the leave campaign was saying before the referendum.

 

 

They lied.

No that video is lying.

You have Dan Hannan saying it won't threaten our place in the single market, and the rest is about Norway and Switzerland.

Another lie is...

There's no such thing as a hard brexit, there is only brexit or no brexit, and people voted for brexit.

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Absolute nonsense.

Detail some of the "huge forseeable positives".

Already have. Go and read them if you can make your eyes point the other way.

1 hour ago, samran said:

And here I was thinking that it was the opinion and argument which mattered. 
 

Given that there isn't much in the way of argument, there's not much to matter.

1 hour ago, samran said:

 

That some people place more weight on someone’s background, well that’s just.....strange. But predictable. 

He said where they're from, not what they are, but you knew that, didn't you.

Are you playing the race card to shut down debate, or just trolling for cheap thrills?

2 hours ago, puck2 said:

....  in higher prices for many items.

Be lucky that you have to pay for it, and enjoy it as you like the Brexit so much .

If the Germans like exporting to the UK, they may have to cut their costs to keep the prices down, if Barnier trashes German exports by failing to agree a deal.

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The fishing rights were sold and are owned by the foreigners who bought them, there rights of ownership are protected under UK laws.

 

Nobody in the UK is getting fishing rights back, or at least not unless they buy them.

"there"?!

I think you need to check yourself... fishing quotas are not permanent.

2 hours ago, samran said:

I thought the whole point of being a Tory was to CUT the cost of doing business? 
 

Ah well, it will just be passed on to consumers who will have to bear the cost of this. Less money in people’s pockets at the end of the day. 

After so many years of socialism, you're not allowed to; really the massive and ever-expanding budgetary waistline of the NHS should be cut, but that would apparently be evil, according to lefties.

The cost of it, of course, will be passed onto every subsequent generation in taxes, skintifying them.

2 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

What a nightmare to be aboard that ship, not knowing where or when they'll be allowed to disembark. 

Ships are festering places of disease, filth, and rotten minds.