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Hi! The Swedish Embassy in Bangkok has advised that from October 1st, 2026 they will not going to issue Income affidavit income notary letters anymore. Some I talked with believe that after October 1st it still will be possible to get affidavit income letters going some another route? According to information I has received the validity on the income affidavit letters are 6 months from the date of issuing (according to the embassy.) But that the local immigrations has at least in some cases Not accepted income affidavit letters older than 3 months. Lets say a person that currently are on an 1-year extension of stay based on retirement using income affidavit letter method. The person (He) has recently done or will do there 1-year next 1-year extension of stay in a couple of months. He manage to get (what will be his very last) income affidavit letter a little before October 1st. But the validity of the letter and when his next 1-year extension is due is not aligned. He want of course to get extension of stay for as long time as possible by using the income affidavit method. But will immigrations likely approve this as the window to do a 1-year extension is open 30 days (locally 45 days) before the existing 1-year extension of stay ends? Can one possible method thus be to depart from Thailand without a Re-entry Permit and apply for a new Non O e-Visa. And when the e-Visa been issued return to Thailand and use the likely last income affidavit letter (issued a little before October 1st) to get one more 1-year extension of stay? Other "legal only" options? I have also got questions regards how to go from using the Income affidavits letters over to the banked minimum 800.000 Baht method? Will thus Immigrations require that the money been on the account for minimum 2 or 3 months? Some talk about to go to Banked +800.000 Baht as step one to then as step two go to 12 x minimum 65.000 Baht. Some talk about to go 1-year extension of stay based on being married with a Thai women as thus less financial requirements. I will pass good information that I receive to Swedish to some people that asked me what there options now are? Thanks in advance

Thanks! Switched to use a PC as my Ipad seems to have some bugs after upgrading to IOS 26... OK so when I got the 60-day Visit Family Extension (that will cover from 30 January until 30 March) approved on 21 Januari. The 90-day counting went reset to zero from either 21 January or 30 January? No problem which of theses two dates as I will leave Thailand on 29 March (tickets are booked). For my next trip after this one to Thailand. I will not as I did this time apply for a Non O Visa based on being married with a Thai women with the intention to follow up with a 12-months extension based on marriage. I will instead apply from my home country Sweden for a Non O E-visa as Retired and then apply for a 12 Month Extension based on Retirement. When I did the 60-day Visit Family Extension on 21 January. The immigration officer did quite firmly advise that he does not want me to come the next time for doing another 60-day extension and advised he expect me to apply for a 12-monthly extension instead. I informed that is what my plan exactly is and he did seem satisfied with my reply and I got the 60-day extension approved (this time). My last 60-day extension was in March 2025 and did only stay in Thailand for like 20 days on that one. Seems to me (right or wrong) that Immigrations is not now only wants to reduce the amount of 30-day "Tourist" Extensions but also now the 60-day Extensions...

Hi! I did a 60-day Family Visit (Thai wife) Extension on January 21 at Immigration in Udon Thani and the extension is valid to March 30. I did arrive to Thailand with an Non O E-Visa as married with a Thai women on November 1st and the Permission to Stay stamp in my passport is January 29. As I will pass 90 days in Thailand on January 29th I wonder what is the ”general rule” about the need to do a TM47 90-day reporting as I don’t see anything about this in the now attached form (failed to upload!) or seen anything about this matter in any forum so far. As additional info…At an earlier 60-day visit family extension when I visited Immigration in Udon Thani for to do a 90-day reporting as I thought was necessary. I was advised that it was not necessary to do any 90-day reporting even though I would thus stay in Thailand for almost 90 + 60 days in total. The immigration officer pointed on the 60-day stamp extension stamp in my passport and told me that I don’t need to do a 90-day report.

I believe only one as read 15. Quote: ”Thai Witness (Not relatives Person)with Photocopy of ID Card and house registration book”. Unquote For your information I planned originally to apply for an 1-Year Extension at this visit based on that I arrived to Thailand with a Non O E-Visa as married with a Thai. But I have decided to this time only do a 60-Day Visit Thai Wife/Family Extension once again. After I get approved I and my wife plan to leave Thailand in end of March likely to stay in Sweden until beginning of October before going back to live in Thailand again. I plan prior next trip to now instead apply for a Non O 90-day E-Visa based on Retirement and follow up with 1-Year Extension based on Retirement. I need to thus add currency so I have +800.000 Baht on the Thai bank account instead of +400.000 Baht of course. But this looking to me as the better option overall as how I look on it. In some few years after when starting receiving pensions thus possibly switch to the Monthly income method instead… I have asked Immigration in Udon Thani and they informed me that when I apply for a 1-Year Extension the very first time I can only get an extension based on base the Non O E-Visa was issued on. However from the following second extension and so on I was informed it’s possible to switch from for example from a 1-Year Extension based on Marriage to based on Retirement. But as written above my plan is now to start based on Retirement and stay on that as my current planning ahead is at this very moment.

As attached is the English section of the forms for 1-Year Extensions based on being Married with a Thai women and based on Retirement that I received at Udon Thani Immigration on November 2nd 2025. Section 6. As for the Married version was somewhat confusing for me as it appears in the text that even if using the banked +400.000 Baht method on a Thai bank account. It looked like I would anyway need to get a pension income certificate from in my case the Swedish Embassy in Bangkok (which will stop issue these from October 1st 2026). But when asking a Immigration officer she told me that that is not required and that minimum 400.000 Baht as been on my account for minimum 2 Months is what’s required. I asked also if my ”Fixed Account” at Bangkok Bank - Udon Thani branch is approved to use as it is this account that I plan for use for my extension. I asked because as in the forms it says the money shall be on a ”Savings Account” . I showed my ”Fixed Account Passbook in my name only” and the Immigration officer informed me that my Fixed Account is ok to use. She did write on a paper in Thai that I shall give the bank as for get a 3-Month Bank Statement and also a Bank Letter (I guess) as my understanding is that both these documents are required by Immigration. As for proof we are married my wife visit’s the local district office (Amphur) in Udon Thani and they do thus issue a ”Marriage Register Document” as for us is a ”KOR 22” as we originally got married outside Thailand. As we did not got married in Thailand we don’t have any ”Thai Marriage Certificate” and besides that Immigration want either the ”KOR 2” (married in Thailand) or ”KOR 22” Marriage Register Document as it is this that proof we are still registered as married on the day of issuing the document.

Well noted! I have not understood and mixed up Online reporting for TM47 90-day reporting (which I never have done) with Online reporting for TM30 Adress reporting. Thank you for correcting me 🙂 I need however visit local immigration in Udon Thani anyway as is not far from my my wife house on November 3rd as also to get a certificate of residence to apply for a Yellow House Book. Thus hopefully receive a list of what specific requirements that Udon Thani immigration might have for the upcoming application for 1-year extension of stay.

"What interactions do you have with immigration in your visits to Thailand."? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My Thai (and Swedish citizen) wife and I (Swedish only) are living in Sweden and Thailand, but somewhat less than 180 days in Thailand per calendar year. My understanding is that when I as a foreigner do enter Thailand every time within 24 hrs. arriving to my final destination in Thailand. Must visit the local immigration to do the "Address Reporting" within 24 hrs. As my next arrival will be on Saturday and the Udon Thani Immigration office is closed on Saturdays and Sundays me and my wife will however go on a Monday morning instead to do the reporting. I have read that hat the TM30 Online reporting system is not open to be used for the first time after been entering Thailand each time. However I have asked Udon Thani Immigration if I need to visit them for do a new Address Report if and when I have traveled within Thailand only after coming back to our residence in Udon Thani? Regards that Immigrations have replied verbally that I doesn't thus need visit them to do a new address reporting. I do travel to Thailand with a Non O based on marriage 90-day E-Visa and for my three last visits I did also 60-day extensions on top. During my next stay arriving to Thailand on November 1st I will however apply for a 1-year extension of stay. And I did by the way already in July send +400.000 Baht to one of my accounts at Bangkok Bank in my name only due to that specifik bank new rule regards that the money have had to be banked minimum for 4 Months for them to issue the Bank Letter (s) as required by immigration as part of the application. As for my previous 60-day extensions immigrations have checked the receipt in my passport on that I have the done the initial address reporting. And to my understanding this will part of the checks of documents when I will apply for the 1-year extension of stay. Edit. Well noted that TM28 actually has been changed to TM27 and thus Udon Thani Immigration use the correct one. But thus the Immigration Bureau website download section seems not been updated about this still today several years after the change took place. And as I say that I happens to get a receipt from TM27 instead from TM30 is not causing any issues! Seems just like this is maybe the practice how they do at the Udon Thani immigrations at least for me and now quite a few times. As for my part this can now be closed. Thank you

Well. When I and my wife visit the Udon Thani Immigration in conjunction with my arrival to Thailand to do the within 24 hrs after arrival to Thailand reporting. It is the Immigration officer we meet that let my wife do the TM30 and me as the farrang to do a TM27 (is not by our choice). It has been like that regardless which immigration officer we happens to have in front of us at Udon Thani Immigration. What is of importance is that I get a receipt even though is coming from TM27 in my passport. But has TM28 been replaced by TM27? I still see TM28 on the Thai Immigration Bureau on download section but Udon Thani immigration office use TM27. I have checked that is TM27 when I sign on the report as well as asked that the receipt I get is from TM27 and it even is written on the receipt ""Have received notice of change of address from" on the line under my name.

I found this old post that the "Change Address Report" that the TM28 form been cancelled and been replaced by a new TM27 form. However as when I now logged in on the Thai Immigration Bureau website and to section: Download documents > I don't find TM27 but still the TM28 I have also seen in several posts that even if not used very much that the TM28 seems still to be the used by most local immigration offices. But every time that I come to Thailand I go together with my wife visit the local immigration in Udon Thani for the within 24 hours Address Reporting. My wife owning the house we live in is thus doing the TM30 report as she is the "Housemaster" but the immigration office keeps the entire TM30 form (not removing the bottom receipt part). As for me the Udon Thani immigration do however also make a TM27 Change Adress Report and is the bottom section of this one they place as a receipt into my passport. It been like this every time even we stay on same address (my wife house). By asking the immigration officers they have replied that the TM27 is the correct report as related to me. This maybe just another example on that different immigration offices have different practices. And have not had any problems whatsoever in conjunction when I have done some 60-days extensions when the immigration officers have checked the receipt coming from the TM27 form. But it has also then been done at Udon Thani Immigration. But was TM28 replaced by TM27?

As for me starting this thread I am more than happy with the helpul responds as to now close this thread. Hope also others have the possibility to get good medical coverage insurances within Thailand or through insurance companies for example in their home countries that covers good medical care in Thailand and not are very expensive. The insurances I get through Sweden does not have any age limitation but can have limitations for medical issues as known when to get the insurance.

Yes looks not apply to me as long as I make sure stay less than 180 days per calendar year in Thailand as per current and simewhat revised rules as come to force 1 January 2024. I will always keep funds on my and my wifes bank accounts in Thailand as is indeed a good practice. However if I am staying only max. 90 days each time it will be less than if I am on a 1-Year Permission of Stay. The Emergency Medical Insurance when I and my wife are in Thailand have been solved as described this and past times as follows. Me and my wife have via my Home insurance in Sweden a freevof charge Medical Care Insurance that is valid world wide exept for USA and Switzerland for 45 days after leaving Sweden. To this one I pay for a extension medical care insurance for longer visits as get automatically in force on day 46. I have to been paid before come to force but best before paid before travel from Sweden. If to stay longer than originally planned and paid for it can be extended for example while we are in Thailand as long as long as paid for before the before covered period has expired. All Swedish Insurance companies and some of the nearby countries as well own together SOS International Call 24 hours call service as located in Copenhagen. When possible I shold call them if something of medical care feels nesessary. SOS international will if they see a need for medical care then advice you what to do and if going to a hospital not hopefully far away advice which and if ambulance is to be called by them or by you? If accident and you from beginning ended on a not desirably bys SOS International get moved when safe to do so. In rare cases is also move from for example Thailand to Sweden but this again is rare as normally is much less expensive to get treament on the location. Good! I did not know that it is possible to apply 60-day extension on the 90 days granted. I had only heard about and also applied on 30 days extensions in past basis when I entered on Visa Exempts and that is also possible to get 30 days extensions on the local immigration offices if entered on a tourist visa. Thanks for all your comments and helpful comments! Sorry for make a mess when to commements but the Ipad seems not be the preferred device as writing as is if I am pointing where I want to edit it writes somewhere else…

Thanks Mike! This was indeed a very comprehensive general Tax Guide which I now been reading but also saved as to be able to quickly find and read again. Seems to be very clear about the less than 180 days per calendar year stay in Thailand part. But I will have to study this guide a more as it appears like transfer of money to Thailand as it appears can be causing tax issues under some cases? As for example when I recently sent quite a lot of money from my bank account in Sweden to my and my wifes bank Thai bank accounts for the purchase of a car i Thailand. I will have to see if any unwelcome surprises comes up or not? And for just living in Thailand I have send money from Sweden on regularly base but this will be not in comparison get near as much per transaction.

Thanks! The Multiple Entry Non-Imm. O E-visa has been removed as an option to select from the Thai Embassy in Stockholm unfortunately since the year change I believe. I heard this is the case from some other Thai Embassys in other countries to but I don’t know which ones specifically? But I am regardless thinking at moment in the direction that you advice. I like also to meet my now adult childrens and grand childrens and to stay away like almost 180 days in a row is long time… The point of be flexible is important when it comes to Thailand . I did see the article on Asean Now and the thread on the new Thailand Visa fees from New Zeeland and is just to see what will happens with fees from other countries? When things changes I have to do so sometimes as well. I had some years ago Multiple Entry 1-Year Non-Imm. O-A Visa but that went not an option anymore when the requirement to have insurance in Thai insurance company went to force.

Thanks so much to all that replied at same time that I did write my self. It have now come several answers whick I am to read with or without links that are very helpful as for me to take a decision about the path forward for me personally.

Yes there is indeed a long thread about tax implications but have not managed to find out if my option number 1 is is the better and safer choice as to avoid be taxed as well in Thailand? Both option 1 as 2 is as can be seen to stay less than 180 days in Thailand per calendar year. If option 1 is best choice I will Not send +800.000 Baht to one of my bank accounts in Thailand which I need to do while I on this visit in Thailand. Thus as I to my understanding need then to get a FET receipt from in my case Bangkok Bank as evidence that the money/currency come from a country outside Thailand into my bank account. Not sure if the FET has to be presented to Immigration if and when apply for 1 -Year Permision of Stay? Just been reading a lot trying to find out the rules but get lost…