milo0485

Hello!

I am a fellow graduate and understand your concerns. Fortunately, I work outside of Thailand and didn't require any attestation for me to use EGS degree to obtain and settle into a very good job as a teacher. 

First of all, to address this current issue, let's keep a few things in mind and be objective instead of irrational and emotional. 

The https://www.education.gouv.fr/acce_public/search.php official French government website still indicates that EGS is very much a recognized Private, Independent University in France under the care of the Ministry of Higher Education, Research and Innovation. As far as I am aware, both BSM and EGS never claimed that awards from EGS are the same as French Public University awards. They did, on their website, make this fact very openly and clearly known to each and every student or potential student. I remember sitting in front of BSM staff and being lectured about the difference between French public university vs. French private university awards. Only after I was clear about this distinction they enrolled me. So, it was my responsibility to understand this difference in the first place. Since France is a centrally governed country for its national and higher education, the "recognition" is the most important legal clearance I needed to be assured of. And this, is in fact, a reality as seen on the official government website https://www.education.gouv.fr/acce_public/search.php.

It is also a fact that prior to December 2019, previous graduates already obtained (successfully) attestation from MOFA France, as well as French Embassy in Thailand and MOFA Thailand. It is indeed a recent change in policy by the French government, that no attestations are done by embassies outside of France anymore, especially if the documents are issued by a French entity. Hence, the need for all EGS graduates to have their documents attested by MOFA in France. However, despite the fact that previously MOFA had already attested several of EGS graduates' documents as evidence in the images below, the recent change in policy requires that EGS makes some amendments to the wording used in the degree document being requested for attestation. Another close friend of mine is in the same situation; he has also been waiting for a few weeks - and still asked to wait because EGS has sent a few revised versions of the degree document for feedback from MOFA through their legal person, (Mr. G Fields, Paris) and awaiting for finalization, before the next attestation could occur. This does not mean that EGS is not recognized anymore. Countries do change policies and such change of policies affect organizations operating in the countries. As soon as MOFA approves a version of the degree document submitted by EGS - EGS has promised that they would reissue revised degree documents to its graduates requiring MOFA attestation, upon which graduates could approach MOFA France for attestation purposes. 

Dealing with the government does take time. Let's understand that when it comes to the government, neither BSM, nor EGS can control the timelines of when things are delivered. This is true in France, or anywhere else in the world. 

I am sure that BSM and EGS did not reply to you beyond a certain point because you are asking them the same question over and over again and getting upset over nothing, just as my close friend did. 

As adults, we should attempt to understand things for what they are (factually), and consequently, engage in more mature, composed course of action. 

I am very sure that EGS is doing its part - and will reconnect with all its graduates once things with MOFA are finalized and ready to move forward. Until then, let's support our alma mater and not get distracted by challenges such as this. 

Lastly, I wish to share with everyone another very important fact which BSM shared with my close friend again, just recently. BSM only launched EGS programmes in Thailand after getting a 100% confirmation from the Campus France Head (at that time in 2016) of the Embassy of France in Thailand. Here below is the email from Campus France Head of the Embassy of France in Thailand which clearly states that EGS is a fully recognized Private, Independent University in Paris, France, authorized to confer Bachelor, Master and Doctorate degrees. 

In conclusion, I would advise you (and everyone else in the same situation as my close friend is) to be patient and work hand-in-hand with your alma mater to resolve the matter, instead of jumping into unnecessary negative conclusions. Always focus on facts, and not emotionally based opinions and hearsay. 

Wishing all my fellow EGS graduates the best of everything!