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Made some dumplings tonight. Mix looked really good. Recipe said drop them in liquid when simmering then cover pot and cook for 15 minutes at a simmer. Lucky I did them in a sperate pot because half of them seemed to dissolve in a gluggy liquid looked like porridge. I have had the same thing happen repeatedly with different mixes. Basically cup flour, 2 ts baking powder, 1/2 cup milk, 2 tablespoons melted butter. the mix felt the consistency of scone dough. Very pliable.
When I initially dropped them in they puffed up really nicely, looked like they should look, but gradually got worse as I cooked them. I must be doing something wrong.....too long cooking time? Putting the pot lid on? Would appreciate any help. Britman Too I am sure you will know the answer ????
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Thanks all for the advice guys, I'm off to delete 100 emails
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6 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:
My wife is from a small village in Isaan. For the first few years we based ourselves in the UK although we travelled a lot for my job as a journalist that took us around Europe, to the USA and Australia. We then based ourselves in Thailand, as the expenses were high for two to travel and my working hours weren't kind to her and of course she missed her family. That is where I made a sacrifice, I guess.
After living with her in Bangkok for 15 years, which is where she had moved to to attend university, and where she later studied to teach English, we moved close - about 1 km - from her village where we have lived for around seven or eight years. She wasn't looking for Disneyland or a free condo, rather someone who was reliable and wasn't a drunken, gambling womanising Thai I suppose. She comes from a decent family who all have good jobs.
So I do know about Isaan, the whole different story. Again, why do you keep picking the wrong ones, those looking for Disneyland and a free condo, time after time after time? There are plenty out there who aren't.
I see it as a numbers / waiting game. Waiting to see if they are genuine or not. Most have unrealistic expectations in my experience, information passed on by the wise ones in their village, who have never met or had anything to do with a foreigner. There are still guys getting cleaned out here every day, happy to entrust / squander their lifesavings on a person with a 12yo education. While that is happening I guess the situation will continue. In a lot of cases even if the girl is half decent her friends or family will screw things up for her in different ways. Crab in a bucket syndrome. One crab makes it to the top and is nearly out....the others pull the escapee back in
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Just now, RocketDog said:
The OP doesn't really want to change the relationship. He just wants to talk about it.
He's been around enough to answer his own questions.
I think he's just lonely.
Probably venting more than anything. So what does that make you with your even more inane reply to my lonely post lol?
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4 minutes ago, Leaver said:Good post.
I know a few guys in similar situations. They only have themselves to blame.
Yes, the Thai girls playing the long game do the most financial damage.
These guys end up leaving nothing to their kids when they pass.
It's all so unnecessary.
It's horrible and you know I have never seen one of the so called "lucky ones" end up with anything but usually back in a bar or the village where they came from with nothing. I have lived in 4 different villages here and there were always 2 or 3 women had fly in fly out farang "husbands". As soon as the guy was gone the "brother" moved in. One particular one across the road, real Pattaya screamer, on her third foreigner apparently. I asked my highly educated woman what do the other villagers think of this? She just smirked and said "stoopid farang". They think she's geng (smart). I said would it be ok if she did the same to a Thai man? NOOOOOO! Then she had a think and said "when farang come, she love only him", like it made it ok lol. I said well you go to work about 12 hours everyday, how about when you are at work I get a girlfriend, but when you come home I love only you. Is that ok? NOOOOOOOO!!! I am sure they think we are a different species to them
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Just now, Bangkok Barry said:
It seems, then, that you are extraordinarily inept at picking partners, if you constantly choose one and then you feel you need to 'move them on'. I married my Thai wife over 30 years ago, two weeks after meeting her. Sometimes, now and then, I have to count to 50 over something, occasionally to 100, because of the different cultures, but I have never felt the need to 'move her on'. Try it. The world, her world, whoever she is and what work she does, doesn't only revolve around you. If you are constantly feeling the need to change partners then I would suggest that you might like to look in the mirror for the problem.
I think 30 years ago they weren't expecting to go from near poverty to something akin to Disneyland with a free condo thrown in. I assume you have a Bangkok wife "Bangkok Baz"? I am talking about Isaan, a whole different story
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8 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:I think that a miserly, begrudging and curmudgeonly attitude goes nowhere with Thai women (or any woman, quite frankly). Open up your wallet pal and wake up.
What miserly attitude? Expecting that they at least pick up after themselves or take care of themselves in some way.... or its ok to shower them in money while they sit on the sofa taking selfies and watching TV all day? Never lifting a finger, particularly when they brought a child into the mix as well. Mine has a nice comfortable home, expensive phone, Macbook, tablet....gold...room full of clothes and bags, savings in the bank and a daily free ride. Everything she owned fitted into a sports bag when I met her and her 2yo old child was basically fending for himself in a village. Forgive me for not feeling any guilt.
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6 minutes ago, Leaver said:
Your experience is a very common one, but with so much information out that warning you against doing what you did, why did you still do it? Was it the "my girl is different" syndrome?
The problem is they are always good, often amazing at first. The cracks usually start to show after a couple of weeks to a month and if you have any experience here you can spot this pretty quickly. The really dangerous ones that play the long game can put on a good front for years, until you see their real colors. I now three or 4 guys here living now in misery. Spent nearly all they had to make the women happy. Probably thought they would get set up and could live on a budget. Unfortunately put all the assets in the wife's name and now dancing to her tune. She knows the golden gooses a$$ is spent and would like nothing better than they Foxtrot Oscar. All unable to return home and live off only their pension or what they have left, nor start again with someone else here. And my girl is different. She's not a psycho or a money grubber but a weirdo
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49 minutes ago, Brick Top said:
I identify everything in your post , it feels like there thd ones doing you a favour.
One example is , I had a Thai girlfriend who was working in a massage shop , earning about 100 baht for giving an hour massage. I did everything for this lady , she wasnt young , aged 55 , I built her a house , new motorbike , gave her a salary off 13,000 a month so she didn't need to work.
When I asked her to give me a massage , it was met with a refusal and told me to go to a massage shop. She prefaired to lay on the sofa and play her smartphone.
In the end I cut my losses and left her to it.
I thought at one time I might be better off with a middle aged lady, but have seen many mates have just as many problems with them. One in particular at the moment he's done the buy the house, cars thing (in her name) and just discovered the numerous daily disappearances are the result of a gambling problem. The other thing that has disappeared are the land deeds. And as everything in her name already the act is over and its "like it or lump it"
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6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:If someone is bringing decent conversation, wit, charm, and sense of humor to the table its more probably that so is their significant other, also, that their significant other is of a similar age and from a similar socio-econoic-educational demographic and is therefore unlikely to be unconcerned with the ‘issan money conversion’ being discussed in this thread.
I haven't found this to be the case at all. Teachers, highly placed government workers....lived with a doctor for 6 months. The only difference is their debts and credit cards are a lot higher. Slightly better conversation but I remember particularly she didn't have a clue where Cambodia or Laos were geographically in regards to Thailand. Usually the comment is "not important for me". They just aren't taught to wonder or care about things going on in the world. Not a criticism just the way it is
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6 hours ago, Berkshire said:
I've heard some farangs mention that their Thai female "brings nothing to the table." Have you ever considered what YOU bring to the table? I'm not talking about money or other material things. I'm talking about a decent conversation, wit, charm, and sense of humor....in the Thai language of course. This is really what moves most Thai women...beyond the financial security. And this is why some dirt poor Thai guy can have multiple women and never pay for it.
What a lot of rot lol. Do you live in Thailand or ever lived in a village? A dirt poor guy gas multiple women lol.
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41 minutes ago, BritManToo said:
I'm trying to impress on this young chap that his woman would probably sleep with Quasimodo's granddad for a few dollars. I know the youngsters like to think they get a better deal, 'cos they're slim and handsome, but in reality we're all buying the same product.
If you are referring to me I am more like you describe yourself than the latter lol. It doesn't matter here. I know a few really decent looking young guys here, and good guys too seem to have all the same issues. I have been here long enough to know the difference with what you're describing. I don't doubt her love, it's the chip on the shoulder and urge to win at all costs thing, and it doesn't matter how petty the topic. Like fight / deflect / debate for an hour over something that would take 5 minutes to complete. You haven't seen this in (some / many) Thai women?
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57 minutes ago, BritManToo said:
I suspect it's more to do with living with a guy she doesn't like, but I may be wrong.
When you wake up in the morning, is she pressed against you or as far from you as possible without falling off the bed?
Actually sleeps on top of me but I know what you mean. Like they would rather be in another country 6 feet away clinging to the opposite edge of the bed. This one is like bi polar. Affection way over the top, needy then angry and moody. I'm wondering which one is the real person or if there are 2 of them in there
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7 minutes ago, ProbPossConf said:
Will she take care, help, assist when you are later in your years, or even if now you might have an accident or medical issue that may render you inept?
Well that's the hope. But I have seen that go pear shaped many times. More concerning is the plan is for her to take care of my son. But you know Thais, it's buy now pay later. Aka no worry, I take care you sure. I knew of a blokes wife here didn't even go to her husbands funeral, been together 20 years. I think she would be ok in as much as I think any Thai would be ok, but there is always the question mark. I would hope so, I have taken care of her twice lengthy periods she was hospitalized and then at home incapacitated. She's not a bad person as such. Not coniving and sly like some. It's mainly the attitude. I honestly think the quick temper, moodiness and wanting to sleep all the time has something to do with their diet. Liter cups of coke, Milk teas, all the rice and sticky rice, snacks....and sugar in nearly everything they eat. they eat enough sugar in a day to kill an elephant.
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10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:
Ask yours if she'd like 10k/month?
It's more than she'd get for 6x 10hr shifts a week in 7-11 or any of the other stores.
Well she does get 10k a week from her little business, for very little effort / hours, while I take care of her son and everything else
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21 minutes ago, Tagged said:How long did you say you been here, and nothing learned yet?
Well, I guess what ever you have been told, or going to be told, you are just going to continue the same path,
sorry,
Oh I learnt plenty. And I went through a period of a year where I was turning them over faster than pancakes. And not for any reason other than I had spent 5 years with my first one here trying to make her happy which was never to be. And possibly would have done the same thing with this one only for a series of unfortunate events. One being she had a motorcycle accident and was hopsitalised and needed home care for 3 months. That was me. Then her child was dumped on the door step not long after by her sister who felt 4000 baht a month wasn't enough and she needed 8000. One thing led to another and here we are. As I said there are children involved so not a step I take lightly. I always viewed her as a bit of a fixer upper. Had a lot of good points and thought with a little bit of attitude adjustment she would see the light. When I say good points I mean didn't have two major issues which was a needy family and she wasn't a money grubber
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13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:
My rented gf brings her firm young body to the
tablebed, which to this 65 year old ,fat, saggy, balding grandpa is well worth the 10kbht/month I pay her.And more power to you if that's your thing. I don't know how many would be happy with 10k though
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1 minute ago, BritManToo said:
How could you possibly know?
Women lie you know.
No where more true than here but I really don't think so. I am pretty familiar with her history, she's an accountant. But who knows.
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5 minutes ago, Pmbkk said:
They probably don't, they may just see you as a stepping stone ????
I think your view of Issan women maybe wrong though - my wife has never asked me for a penny...
That is one of her good points, she doesn't actually ask me for money, not unreasonably anyway. But having said that I provide a nice lifestyle for her and she has money when she needs it. She the attitude that she doesn't want to owe me anything, but does take all I provide for granted. Its not really about that it is about the entitled attitude. I've spent a considerable amount of time and money setting something up for her future as well, which seems to be of no value to her.
She doesn't seem to value family or future that much either which is all I ever talk about. Which is strange as her mum and dad both dead and she doesn't really have anyone else. I am forever telling her how lucky she is to have 2 wonderful young boys to take care of her in the future and she shrugs that off. She is constantly moaning she not do bad, why she never lucky, in front of the kids. I say you're not lucky to have this lovely family? She doesn't do bad things but she doesn't particularly do anything good either. I know at least 6 old GF I have had here that probably thought many more fish in the sea but still don't have anyone, apart from a few 2 week holiday boyfriends. And still chase me around. its the same as the way they drive. They just don't consider what's ahead, just go hard and of course sorry after.
As far as my view of Isaan women goes I am sure they are not all that bad. And great you are happy but these traits are quite common, anyone thinks different has never met many of them
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17 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:Why are you with her if she has these characteristics - probably she is a fair bit younger and sexy and makes you feel good. We think we remember being her age but how would you have felt about being with say a 55 year old woman when you were 25 or 30. Maybe it's not a factor in your case but that might explain her ambivalence and lack of motivation to better herself. A lot of Thai girls are not that curious regarding intellectual matters too. You have to weigh it up if the pleasure outweighs the pain and boredom of her personality.
You are assuming way too much. And she isn't a stunner etc but wont go into that. I just don't seem to think many of these people actually look at themselves. Its all about what they are getting. they never seem to consider for a moment what they are giving. Doesn't enter their minds. i can remember living in a village and going to a local Mawlum show. I bought about 2 dozen large beers because I knew the sponges across the road would be my best pals. When all the grog was gone one was motioning for me to go and buy more. I simply shook my head. I heard one of them murmur Kie neow (tight a$$). they brought nothing, sponged all night and called me tight fisted lol. They are very big on sharing.....as long as that means you sharing with them, and them not bringing anything to the party
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10 minutes ago, CharlieH said:Seems to me the OP may be missing one important element, thats ALL the Thais she mixes with on a daily basis bending her ear ! chipping away as to why she has to work at all, why she isnt this or that etc because she has the Golden farang. It happens everywhere guaranteed ! If someone shd knows is also married to farang, you cen bet they are playing "beat the Joneses too. Seen and heard it and suffered it.
No not in her case. She has no close family and has never had any real friends. She's that sort of person really. very negative. But I do know what you mean. Its usually how most Thai farang relationships end. Jealous friends, baiting her up....where's your gold or your new Louis bag? then she starts requesting these things from her farang wanting to placate her friends or compete with other farang wives. One thing I have seen repeatedly here is older guys here thinking they will build her a home, buy her a car, some gold, a few holidays then they can settle down to a moderate lifestyle. The problem is it never stops, there is never enough and as soon as the money stops flowing and particularly if you have out yourself in a position where you are no longer needed (She has the house and everything else in her name already) she wants to shunt you and repeat the process with someone else. Doesn't seem to matter if the girl is old or young, attractive or plain. I don't think money itself is even important to them, they seldom know what to do with it apart from gamble it away. The money only enables their real passion, showing off
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21 minutes ago, BenDeCosta said:If I had 25 satang for every time that I have heard "I don't like Thai men because my ex used to beat me up and cheat on me", I would be on par with Bill Gates. You wouldn't put up with this behaviour in your home country, so why would you put up with it in Thailand? Maybe try and find someone who you actually love and isn't using you for money. Not sure what you want to achieve by posting this.
I'm certain that many foreign guys would have preferred a wet bag of cement to the girl that they married, when they eventually find out that she treats him lower than a gecko on the wall but constantly demands money.
If you're not happy in your current situation, remove yourself from it and move onwards and upwards.
Everything you said is true, and normally I wouldn't persevere, but for the kids. But even that will only go so far. It is coming to a very quick head though. I simply can't put up with it much longer. Its a shame I really don't want much from her, just to be happy really.
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29 minutes ago, simon43 said:
The best thing that I ever did for my sanity, my bank account and my happiness was to get rid of my Issan wives and buy a sex doll.... ????
I in all honesty would be single here if it wasn't that I want to have some sort of family for my son. It's just too hard.
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34 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:It sounds like your treating her good financially and in other ways. You'll probably feel better if you spend a bit more on her rather than a bit less - without being over the top.
You say that she feels shortchanged. It might feel she is saying you are not enough and it's not fun to live like that. That can happen with a younger prettier partner. The entitlement comes from that. It can also come if you seem like a pushover and she feels there's no challenge.
It depends if it's a lighthearted thing or more serious. It might be romance and fun she is missing rather than money. Kids can do that. Maybe you've become a bit bored and boring being about the house and doing house work and caring for the kids. Not much choice but if you can make your life more fun and be happy, without relying on her, it might make her be happy too.
Maybe you are judging her too. You find your happiness and let her be who she is. Having said that you could get her cooking lessons to give her pride in herself if that helps.
That all sounds really nice but I guess my post in a nutshell is saying they bring nothing to the table...I don't mean skills or money. I mean a decent attitude and willingness to at least look after themselves in someway. They seem to expect everything whilst giving nothing and have the attitude and moodiness of a hormonal 14yo girl. I have asked 2 girls I have known here "what do I get from this relationship?". One said "you get my body", the other said "I live with you everyday" lol. It might cut it for a poor village bloke with no hope of getting a woman but if her body is all a women thinks she has to provide in a proper relationship, that's not exactly hard to find elsewhere for a foreigner in Thailand. I just don't understand it? Maybe it is from stories they have heard of guys paying their wives or girlfriends "salaries". Would you move in with a woman back home take care of everything about her while she begrudgingly did very little and pay her a salary? My wallet always has plenty of cash and she knows if she wants something within reason she doesn't have to ask me. She has her own money as well. Isn't that how a normal relationship works? I am happy to accept they don't have the life experience or means we do, and I am happy to do 90% of everything, but not 100%, particularly when I am a good father and support her child as well.
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Help with soup dumpling (English style)
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That's the problem. I only make them once in a blue moon and never get a chance to develop it. So cook for 15 minutes on simmer you think? I got the feeling putting a lid on the pot didn't do them any good