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4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
Have no idea what Iraq has got to do with the invasion of Ukraine by Russia and the subsequent statements and vote issued by Thailand, Thailand was not forced into anything, over 30 countries abstained, the false narrative by Putin and the Kremlin (aka lies) is well documented.
"Ministry spokesman Tanee Sangrat on Thursday said the Kingdom voted in support of a UN resolution condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and demanding Moscow withdraw its forces immediately.
The statement said Thailand was “gravely concerned” at worsening hostilities leading to loss of innocent lives, property and civilian infrastructure in Ukraine.
It said the situation of refugees and those fleeing fighting was particularly worrying and pledged Thailand would “do our utmost in addressing humanitarian needs of the affected citizens, directly and in partnership with like-minded international organizations”.
It has to do with the worldwide support the first one gathered for its unlawful invasion, while the second equally unlawful invasion, is being condemned by the vast majority of the world. Both invasions happened under false pretenses.
Thailand waited to see where the sentiment of the majority stayed, then choose a side to stay with the majority.
Losing Russian business VS losing international business
The choice is clear.
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15 minutes ago, coolcarer said:
This is just one example……….
“What do you suggest I should be doing then? Assault Russian holidaymakers in Pattaya? Just to show em who's boss?
Would that make you feel better?”
5 star drama queen material. I can provide more?
You see what you want to see, that's fine.
We all have our opinions, but calling someone selfish, heartless, Russian apologist, unhinged etc for daring to point out (unpopular) historical facts, is not right. Wouldn't you agree? -
10 minutes ago, coolcarer said:
Try looking at some of the comments you’ve made above, drama queens lol. I nominate you for an Oscar? Ta taaa
To be fair, he never once said that Putin's reasoning and actions were justified. He merely called for a deeper look into the history of the conflict. Some people here think that if you don't have the same reactions as they have, then you must be "against" them and started attacking him on a personal level, calling him Russian apologist and whatnot. That's the black-white mentality he was referring to I think.
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4 hours ago, ivor bigun said:
Correct Transam ,its about God,i just cannot understand how with so much knowledge in the world about the origins of man and how planets are formed ,how anyone can believe that God created it and that his son was born on our planet out of all the billions in the univereses.
mind you it must be great to believe that when you die you will see all your loved ones ,.but then as i have been married a few times and have a mother and a stepmother ,it might get a bit crowded at our eventual reunion ..
Hilarious! ???????????? ...the first paragraph, I mean....
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2 minutes ago, transam said:Another one that has forgotten the thread title and talks about ignorance...????
The thread is about God, not religion. They are not the same thing. If you can not see the difference, I am well allowed to talk about ignorance. ????
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52 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:
Some people will attack you for no reason, but when asked for a logical explanation, will hide behind excuses.
A popular excuse is "I'm not interested in this debate".
.... intellectual honesty, and honesty in general, seems to be out of fashion these days ????
Yep, very childish. I think, reason behind, is that it makes him feel better about his ignorance.
Is the picture of the moon and the actual moon the same? Doh...- 1
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19 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:
Agree on everything you said so clearly.
However, "more" and " less" exist, as far as i can see.
We are "trapped " in a physical body after all.
...but if you're describing a moment of enlightenment, when the false ego is completely forgotten, yep, i guess that's the feeling.
I think it's the same mechanism as with enlightenment.
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2 hours ago, mauGR1 said:
Various times in this thread, the ancient symbol of Tao has been debated.
Today i came across a quote from a master which I deeply revere, R.Steiner.
Hope it's of some interest for someone.
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On TAO……quotation from Rudolf Steiner in a lecture 1905
“The TAO gives expression to the highest to which a large part of humanity can look up and has revered for thousands of years. It is something which was considered as a distant goal of the world and of humanity, the highest element which man carried as a germ within him, which would one day develop into a fully opened blossom from the innermost depths of human nature. TAO signifies both a deeply hidden basis of the soul and at the same time an exalted future.
Not only the name TAO, but the very thought of TAO filled those who had insight into it with timid reverence. The TAO spirituality is based on the principle of development, and it proclaims: That by which I am surrounded today is but a stage which has to be overcome. I must clearly see that this development in which I am involved has a Goal, that I am going to work towards an exalted Goal and that within me there lives a power which spurs me on to come to the Great Goal of TAO.
If I can feel this great force within me and if I can feel that all creatures are aiming towards this great goal, then this force becomes the guiding force rushing towards me in the wind, sounding out of the stones, flashing in the lightning, rumbling in the thunder, sending its light to me from the sun. In the plant it is revealed as the force of growth, in the animal as feeling and perception.
It is the force which will continually create form after form for every exalted aim, through which I know myself to be at one with the whole of nature, which flows out from me and into me with every breath I take, the symbol for the highest evolving spirit which I experience as life itself. I feel this force as TAO."
Beautifully put.
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Nobody mentions the hilarious T-shirt??
Who's the idiot now? 5555- 4
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4 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:
Well i am not bored , i started this thread thinking that it may run to a few pages ,and that the original inventors of God ,the Jews would fight it out with ,the Christians , and the Muslims ,who we must say took a hell of a time to latch onto him , But they really do seem to have taken lots of bits out of both Christianity and Judaism and made it into Islam , dont you agree ? i mean you only have to look at the Nuns and you see where they got the Burkha from .
anyway carry on boys .
You started the thread, bravo bravo bravo
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The fact that they have to tell people to leave their guns at home is hilarious. Let them shoot each other. Less idiots around can only be a benefit for the rest of us.
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Just now, Yorkshire Tea said:
Take a trip to Specsavers. There is no lockdown
Yes, I got that already, thanks smartypants.
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They can stick their lockdown up where the sun doesn't shine. ????
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Another ridiculous measure to suck the fun out of life.
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6 hours ago, mauGR1 said:There are still many Anthroposophists who think that something may be reached by direct discussion with the opponent. Nothing can do us more harm than success in setting forth our truths in the form of discussion; for people do not hate us because we say something that is not true, but because we say the truth. And the more we succeed in proving that we say the truth, the more they will hate us.
Of course this cannot prevent us from stating the truth. But it can prevent us from being so naïve as to think that it is possible to progress by discussion. Only positive work enables us to progress; truth should be represented as strongly as possible, so as to attract as many predestined souls as possible, for these are far more numerous in the present time than is generally assumed. These souls will find the spiritual nourishment needed for the time when no destructive, but constructive work will have to be done, if human development is to follow an ascending, not a descending curve."
Rudolf Steiner #rudolfsteinerThe good old Plato was right, ey? 2000 years and still the same story...
The ‘Allegory Of The Cave’ is a theory put forward by Plato, concerning human perception. Plato claimed that knowledge gained through the senses is no more than opinion and that, in order to have real knowledge, we must gain it through philosophical reasoning.
‘The Allegory of the Cave’ by Plato
In the Allegory of the Cave, Plato distinguishes between people who mistake sensory knowledge for the truth and people who really do see the truth. It goes like this:
The Cave
- Imagine a cave, in which there are three prisoners. The prisoners are tied to some rocks, their arms and legs are bound and their head is tied so that they cannot look at anything but the stonewall in front of them.
- These prisoners have been here since birth and have never seen outside of the cave.
- Behind the prisoners is a fire, and between them is a raised walkway.
- People outside the cave walk along this walkway carrying things on their head including; animals, plants, wood and stone.
The Shadows
- So, imagine that you are one of the prisoners. You cannot look at anything behind or to the side of you – you must look at the wall in front of you.
- When people walk along the walkway, you can see shadows of the objects they are carrying cast on to the wall.
- If you had never seen the real objects ever before, you would believe that the shadows of objects were ‘real.
The Game
- Plato suggests that the prisoners would begin a ‘game’ of guessing which shadow would appear next.
- If one of the prisoners were to correctly guess, the others would praise him as clever and say that he were a master of nature.
The Escape
- One of the prisoners then escapes from their bindings and leaves the cave.
- He is shocked at the world he discovers outside the cave and does not believe it can be real.
- As he becomes used to his new surroundings, he realizes that his former view of reality was wrong.
- He begins to understand his new world, and sees that the Sun is the source of life and goes on an intellectual journey where he discovers beauty and meaning
- He see’s that his former life, and the guessing game they played is useless.
The Return
The returning prisoner, whose eyes have become accustomed to the sunlight, would be blind when he re-enters the cave, just as he was when he was first exposed to the sun. The prisoners, according to Plato, would infer from the returning man's blindness that the journey out of the cave had harmed him and that they should not undertake a similar journey. Plato concludes that the prisoners, if they were able, would therefore reach out and kill anyone who attempted to drag them out of the cave.
Sounds familiar, right? ????
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I don't post much on TV but I do read. This threat has been interesting and made me think. Many view points, many ideas...
I don't have a clear idea about it all. For that I would like to thanks the posters here who give me new ideas.- 2
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2 hours ago, luckyluke said:I have my opinion and my ways, but accept there are other opinions and ways =
good.
My opinion and ways are the only true and right ones=
bad.
I have no opinion, and will protest if others voice theirs = pathetic
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A weak democracy is still better than no democracy.
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2 hours ago, luckyluke said:
"Material possessions are not the source of true happiness"
This make me think of the, usually not well loaded people, who claim that money does not bring happiness,
it makes them feel better in their not always easy life.
What a stupid thing to say. For all you know, he has plenty of money but realized there are more important things in life.
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At the UN, Thailand votes to condemn Russia’s aggression in Ukraine
in Thailand News
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Not many for sure.
The height of hypocrisy is when Condoleeza Rice spoke out about the Russian invasion. The mind boggles.