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1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I reproduced with a Thai lady before I discovered PI.

Had some amazing sex with Filipino women, they're generally much smaller than Thai women.

I ended up having to impose a lower weight limit (38Kg) on 'dates', some smaller ones just didn't fit.

Yes.

Would you have stayd in the UK if the females were similar there, than in SE asia?

I mean, if you think how infrastructure and everything is in the west.

In west, females are cursed by the devil himself, but otherwise you dont feel like you live in refuse dump.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Been there lots, never had a problem, everyone is very polite.

Much nicer and friendlier people than Thailand IMHO.

I prefer to be called 'Sir' or 'Boss' as opposed to the Thai 'you' or 'farang'.

 

Avoid the far southern islands.

Why dont you live in the philippines?

So, what are you guys thinking about the safety of SE Asia?

I dont know so much about thailand, but what ive been studying about philippines,

that places seems like dangerous:

1. poverty

2. volcanoes

3. earthquakes

4. Tsunamis

5. Kidnappers

6. terrorists

7. war against drugs

8. war against terrorists

9. typhoons.

No wonder that "its easy to get a woman there". The place is a total mess...

So, what you guys think about sex life in these age differentual relationships? or sex life for older males. I mean, isnt that a problem with age gap relationships? if male is 20years older or +. isnt there an imbalance? im not sure, but i think my sex drive has decreased at the age 37. But part of the problem might be that because i cant have anymore sex in the west from attractive young women ???? Its hard to get addicted to something, you dont have..

But if there would be scenario where younger attractive female wants to be with me, i have no clue how our sex drives would match.

Young age, 21 years old, sex was for sure must every night (when was available at that time)

Do you older guys even have hard erection? ???? Or is it just half hard?

1 hour ago, ChaiyaTH said:

2. Nonsense entirely, it is only about you being able to. provide financially. She will still have Thai guys when you are gone.

3. He is not wrong, you are just not man enough to admit reality.

4. Chances are big, making assumptions on your first post, the girl will leave you for a better looking young EU male once you brought her in 2 years.

5. They marry you to upgrade their life, not to beciome cleaner and tax slave + help you finance a better EU life, which you clearly cant alone too.
6. Perhaps look for a eastern european girl instead lol. As a good looking 23 year old expect you to support her, and in the first years she is unlikely to work. If you vbore her, she will find hansome young EU guys fast. The girls that want to go abroad have many choices once arrived. Others want to stay in TH.

7. I am not surprised you can't find anything as you speak about girls as if you are getting a car. Change yourself first or get karma from Thais.

3. im not gonna argue with this. But the truth is, that in west the competition is so hard, that after the age 21 there was no more market for me in a kind of relationship what i wanted.

4. yes. Cant bring young cute asian girl back to EU. her value will sky rocket, and its outta door pretty fast. will find a younger male.

5. no problems with financin my life.

6. im pretty much sure eastern european girls are more hard to get, than asian. Its the white race.

there propably is not 23 years old girl there for me.

7. might be...but in a way, there are same principals about getting a girl, than getting a car.

you have "money"(your genes and age at the moment)(+with some eastern girls some money)

and then you see what there is in market that you can "buy" with that "money" (so you look in tinder or some similar app/website which girls are interested of your "money" and you get the best/least worst option).

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

1. Condoms and the pill are free in Thailand, but it's natural for young women to reproduce.

It's what they were designed to do. Women that don't reproduce at an early age are unnatural/broken.

 

2. They don't dig you are white, they dig you've got enough spare cash for international travel.

 

3. If you were attractive in your own age group, you'd already have a wife and kids.

You need to accept reality, your own women don't want you, but you might have enough money to buy Asian that's slightly used.

1. yes, women are crazy, so its natural for them to reproduce too early

2. they dig better genes too (more tall, and more big dick than asian males)

3. this one you got wrong. i dont have wife and kids, because i did not want single mother wife. And in here, all the good ones were taken after i was 22yrs old. Read the thread so you know what ive written.

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

a: My daughters (age 22) schoolfriends all started reproducing around age 15, one of them has 4 children by 4 different fathers. Daughter went back to the family village for a month, returned after a week. Apparently they're all married with kids now and she didn't fit in, and had nothing in common with her former friends.

b: Asia is famous for it's age gap relationships, but none of them are legit (by your way of thinking).

 

If you aren't attractive to women from your home country, why would you think you were attractive to any woman here?

I've never been attractive to any woman, anywhere in the world, but at least here I have enough money to buy a relationship.

a: yea i know this <deleted>. Its the same in philippines. they have only minimal way to buy condoms and birth control pills too in phil. Propably 50% of them has children in age 20. But anyway 30 year old has even more propability to have children. maybe i would guess 90% of the cute ones has at that age.

b: i did have this picture in my mind, after all the investigating from the web (and the information in internet is allways right? ???? ) that examples in Philippines they dont care what do you look, they just dig that you are white, and bring next meal to table etc.

Who did say that im not attractive to women in my home country? im atractive enough in my own age group, that is not the problem. But like i said, i dont like the idea of single mom as my wife. And cute free girls in europe at my age are totally single moms (and if not, they are "modern women focused on career" which means they are too hard to catch).

5 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

And why do you think some young women would be with a much older man?

 

This is how it is:

--The vast majority of Thai women would prefer to be with someone her own age.

--The vast majority of Thai women would prefer to be with someone she can communicate with (i.e., someone who speaks Thai).

--The vast majority of Thai women, while they would love to visit other countries, would prefer to live in Thailand.

--The above goes out the window if said female is in a desperation situation, e.g., no money, no prospects, SINGLE MOTHER, etc.

 

You may have better luck with a Filipina.  Many speak English, are desperate to leave the P.I., and may not have baggage.

Age gaps: I dont know, ive been watching youtube videos and read from online, isnt the trueth there? ????

Yea im more after Filipinas. But doesnt matter, not much matches in my target age group. More younger matches than in europe still.

Yea if i would date Filipina, i think i would move to philippines myself. Cauz, if you bring young atractive Filipina in Europe, it propably wont take long before some younger than me guy picks her up. It wont last then. (In theory)

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

ThaiFriendly is free, swiping doesn't really work as the best looking and youngest ladies don't post photos of themselves.

They show an interest in you, their TF username is also their Line ID, which you enter into LIne and ask them for photos.

 

They don't want anyone they know to see what they're doing, so they don't publicly post their photos.

I thought you said you were 37 and looking for a legit relationship?

Why are you looking for girls aged 18-23?

Why would they want you?

Hmm, maybe i try thaifriendly.

Im looking for girls 18-23 cauz:

a: In that age, they might not be single moms yet

b: I thought Asia was famous of its age gap relationships. Thats why thought they would want me.

So, i paid tinder gold. swiped all the asian major cities in age group 18-23. Did only get few matches. So i think this <deleted> is forgotten. Age gap relationships in phil/LOS are a myth i guess.

Or they start to exist when women get to 30's and men are something like 50. But thats not for me, because i search childfree fiance. But now, its kinda scientifically proven that such thing does not exist.

9 hours ago, Tagged said:

Then you are not willing to put the extra effort to understand the social game that involves getting a relationship, or you looking way above your class or standard!

There is no extra effort. Its the basic thing, you are clean, go to gym etc, nothing special needed. Or, nothing special extra effort besides that does not help anything, result is the same.

In my class girls are single mothers. i hate them.

32 minutes ago, Tagged said:

Well, if you play your cards right, have something the woman wants, its never to late neither in the west or here. Its a game, where you need to learn the tricks to stay in, and make the right choices. 
 

The bird with the nicest feather, the strongest gorilla, The silverback, fight for your position, and never give up. Ad in nature we have the be the strongest, looking good, have providing capacity, and be smart. S woman need to know she is loved and apreciated. 
 

I you prefer to go to the pub with the lads, spend your money on football games tickets, instead of giving your woman the attention she needs, then you loosing out.

 

However you need to pick the right bird, if not, you lose anyway!

nah, 37 years old. every possible trick is done. its not so much about tricks. its just competition and genes. girls see fast who and what you are. They dont care about old lads unless u r born with exeptionally good genes. there is no pick up artist trick or way of life to make this somehow different. when the best before date is gone, its gone for good.

8 minutes ago, Tagged said:

A woman I met who had an older guy as a husband still out partying and looking for younger men, and I asked her one day why? I love my husband, and he good take care, young boys good for sex but not take care!

 

And I believe thats true!
 

Most "marked" thai women (previous boy friend or marriage, dark skin, lack of education, weong parents and so on), can at best find a wealthy local man, but only for become a mia noi.

 

A falang do not think about that if he fall in love, thai do but it start to change now here as well.

Yes. It might be. But we have lots of young man in the west, who will allso take care of the women. Its the traditional relationship. The thing here is, that if you lose the small time gap when dating and mating happens youre done in the west.

Ive been watching some philippine videos in youtube and in there they will talk about this,

how when white man from the west comes there, he is very appreciated, because in east culture and relationships are so bad (propably genes too, small people, small dick, etc..) and the society is horrible and nature elements...

But when you take this girl to west with you, the power ratio goes upward, cauz, girl start pick up habits from the west here, and they notice that they have massive amount of value with men. Men start to pick up them all the time, men notice that "this girl is with this guy, he is too low quality for this..." and they start pick this girl up. So when time goes forward the girls starts to forget her values from the past...this is just one theory, but it does somehow sound reasonable.

So in that mean best could be if foreigner could just stay in SE asia with girl.

On 7/19/2020 at 8:17 AM, kingofthemountain said:

There is no shortage of girls or wife material in Thailand or Phils

if you have the money (Not need a huge amount) for take care of them and

their family, they will be queing to be in couple with you, even if you are old and ugly.

It's why you need to build your financial wealth first.

Well i believe, that if more young age, it gives more value for me.

It might give more that feeling that "this women actually likes me, not my money".

But this...that should get a woman from SE asia. Its a pain in the ass project.

It allmost demands, that i should move to SE asia to live, because, if bring fresh wife straight to homeland, it will go nuts after few months. She will get 200 tinder matches everyday from younger and better men and dumb me.

So first should just live in her country for some years. Maybe do few babies. And after that,

bring the bitch home ????

The problem here is, that everything works well in my country, and its pure hell to think that i should go to live somewhere where there is volcanoes, robbers, poverty, megacyklones, tsunamis,kidnappers, and earthquakes, (philippines) doesnt sound very solitary place to live ????

Shame that in my country there is everything working, but the bitches dont work.

Well...this is the dilemma in life...and with women. Never get everything perfect in my life because of them..

Probably i give up...

23 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

Yes, do that

life is short, you will try to find a wife later

when you will be old and tired of the game

untill then, it's better to work, build your financial wealth

and enjoy the holidays with a lot of different girls

"life is short, you will try to find a wife later" -> I think this is a huge paradox. Dating pool in everywhere in the world works the way that "as soon as possible, because more the time goes, then the situation turns more bad". I mean, the good fishes are catched from the pool as early as possible, and when the time goes on, they get baggage more and more (children) and you only get to involve in the end game. (okay, in SE asia there is this rumor/reputation, that they appreciate somewhat older guy

who is more of a bread winner, but still...).

but there is invisible COMPETITION going on all the time in mating, and in (europe, probably in some level in everywhere in the world)

the younger you are, the faster you do, the better the result (or less worse...).

->20 yrs old cute normal size girl looks her tinder, and there is propably many hundred matches per day in her own age group.

Competition is agressive, that girl doesnt need to look anyone over 25yrs old...so, age is one "trading element" in mating..

"when you will be old and tired of the game" -> Ive been tired of the game easily maybe 15 years, I just think man needs a wife,

its an emotional thing for one to feel yourself a man. I dont get the same pleasure with hookers, and you got to wear condom with them, so even the sex doesnt feel as good, as with wife.

But as like i said in the beginning...my game in europe is long gone and over. People advance very fast with mating here, and once you lost your opportunity, then its gone forever. only rubbish left in dating pool. i just have accept this fact now as reality. There is absolutely no trick, no PUA artist trick or anything to solve this in here.

GOOD NEWS in this, is that i dont need to use alcohol never again anymore. No more hangovers and tiresome trips to bars and clubs. There is nothing to be seen anymore.

"until then, its better to work, build your financial wealth" -> yea bro, its true that i should work and build financial wealth now. That is best done in europe, because of the salaries. And maybe buy a investment condo here. And.....if go to SE asia search for a wife...then could do long distance work with computer, to an european company, so that the money is big because expenses are small.

BUT IN MY OPINION, should do the same time this, while searching wife.

This wife thing messes up my financial wealth building system somewhat. Im efficient and goal oriented, i have educated my self over the years, but this lack of wife has eaten my motivation to the degree of mental healts disorders, i just find it sad, that i need to take "second grade wife", it really doesnt feel the same, than childfree girlfriend in the prime of her life. Totally different experience. Anyways, what can you do, gotta arrange the finances, and keep dreaming about the sweet young filippina wife.

As for depression i think goal orientation solves depression.

It needs to be something like this:

1. relationship/family 33%

2. work 33%

3. hobbies 33%

So, to deal depression, and to live:

-Make a goals in each area, and start accomplishing them.

-push hard, but dont kill yourself in the process. (unless you REALLY see that goal valuable. Like

example Navy Seal soldiers want to be Navy Seals so bad, that its not unusual that in their training process there is accidents that lead to death sometimes).

-example: 1, get a wife 2, do job you like 3. exercise/whatever you like, collect 1000 stamps if thats your thing..etc..

if there is obstacles in some of these areas, solve them. (example: like im trying to solve this wife part in my life, i have struggle with it constantly in my head how to do it, what are the unavoidable compromises i have to do, do i change my whole life and move to SE asia after a possibility to get a goodlooking young wife, or do i need to stay where i am and settle for a much more unsatisfactory situation...etc.).

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's my opinion, having been through it all, that most people that think they are depressed are not. Given a change in circumstances most would, IMO, not suffer the same feelings. More likely, IMO, that they are lonely, feeling worthless, or unlovable. If they should find the right person that would change. Drugs are of no real use in such situations, though illegal ones make all the problems go away.

Depression, IMO, is a chemical imbalance, and can be treated with drugs, if given the correct drugs in the right amount, but that requires a good Dr or psychiatrist, and how many of them are around?

 

Unfortunately most of us will never meet the right person and are doomed to a life of loneliness and sadness ( if we are honest with ourselves ). IMO that's why so many people take drugs, from alcohol to mj to hard drugs to LSD to try and stop feeling bad.

I certainly don't have the answer, but it's possible that mj will be legalised for recreational use in NZ, so perhaps I'll be able to just smoke my cares away in a year or two.

Loneliness? Cant buy wife?

Situational report:

Ive been thinking some things in my life, i have 2 options with women:

1. try to get a young philippine wife. get a online dating sites and chat to them,

try to arrange meeting, then fly there, meet those girls, allso can try to meet locals through tinder,

or talk to them face to face. maybe the online would be best, how the hell otherwise i could

dig those suitable girls from there, total luck needed.

Social class doesnt matter, only thing matters, is that the girl is cute, childfree, and into me. and i survive the process without gone mad. and, if this could workout, then live in the philippines about 10 years, do 2-3 children there. then talk if wife wants to come to europe. not before,

because if you bring this 23yrs old cute childless girl to west, it will go crazy and dumb me ????

(becaus in west, this girl has SO MANY options with guys. flirty westeners everywhere, and western

free culture, pop music, night clubs, new friends who will say to this girl that "you can have better man in here" material life style etc. the girl might be gone in a month :D)

->if this whole <deleted> dont work out, dont find wife, then just keep vacation in philippines. meet some whores etc, have fun. go back home.

-> so why try philippine wife, not thai?

1. just a gut feeling. feels like thai women :

a: not interest in me (i was in thailand 7-8 years ago. only the hookers in bangkok bars

did show some interest. and ofcourse that doesnt count) (i didnt have tinder at the time.

and i didnt use any online services. i didnt search for a partner back then. (but maybe it doesnt change anything, if search or not. because if someone is interested, it will tell it without searcing)

b: philippines talk more english, and allso you cant online chat with some thaiwomen,

because they speak with thailetters, i dont understand those weird signs ???? )

c -> all around the net is information how philippines girls dont care about age difference at all,

im little sceptic, but could try.

2. So, if number 1 fails, after a little try, lets say something like 6months(online chat, planning the trip, and then trip etc) which might be so, because somehow ive been cursed with my luck with women since i was 20years old, no matter what i do, then i give up.

Then i take first single mom about the same age as i am (dont need to be single mom, but like i mentioned before, cute women in here at my age who are willing to take me are single mom, no matter how hard i try something else) from tinder that i could find.

Because then there is no other love in this planet that i could get. You could say, that then it is scientifically proven fact.

These are my thoughts now. maybe just should take the single mom right away in my country, but, i dont know. I could try to fight again my destiny 1 more time and see where it goes...if i have the guts.

58 minutes ago, KohKood said:

 

Okay, so what is the problem? Your lacking self-confidence, as I already assumed? I don't get it.

what you mean i lack self confidence? In tinder, and in chat, and in real life situations (bar for example)

women either like me, or not.

15 minutes ago, poloshirt said:

Mr FritsSikkink, you are right in many sense of the word. Yeah, we often repeat our mistakes over and over sometimes completely unaware of it. We may even thought we have changed.

So do contemplate on what FritSikkink said. How do you treat women in your home country? Do you have problems with relationship with them?

Read this thread, and you know how are my relationship possibilities here

22 minutes ago, KohKood said:

Sorry, but it seems you gave up yourself. I mean, congratulations that you are not like most people and being self-reflective! But how about you educate yourself, get smart und at the same time get good looking? It's possible for everyone, just look at some Videos where they take people from the streets or something and give them high-end beauty treats. Just go to a <deleted> good barber and buy some new clothes, it will boost your confidence already.

Healthy men have the best looking at the age around 30-40 and beautiful and lovely woman love men in this age. Even younger woman, but most likely it will not be a serious relationship then. But damn, many men at your age score young beautiful woman for ons or affairs. And if you take a woman around your age chances are more high it could be some long-term serious <deleted>!

Your problem is not your age, it is your lacking self-confidence and that you do not trust and believe in yourself that you can change that!

I have high education. I know how to get a haircut, how to shave beard, how to buy new clothes, how to go to gym. This is all i can do you know.

9 minutes ago, KohKood said:

"Yes. But women in my age have children.

So, forget about it."

 

Not every woman. Sure many, and the ones that don't have children in that age, most of the time it has a (good) reason.

But you are 37 and have no children, too! Ever thought about that?

I can understand why you had no success before. Have some self-reflection and do NOT search for woman over your "points". If you are a 5/10, why a 9/10 should be with you?! Work on yourself and get a 9/10 or more and you will be successful.

 

So if you are 37 and have no children and want a REAL gf/wife, you NEED to arrange yourself with something in the same range. Simple!

Yes, i have so low points, that women over 23 years old, who are cute, and sensible enough NOT to be single mothers, are out of my range. And probaply the ones, who are cute, and not yet single mothers, are under 23 years old, and probably they think im too old. Like i said my game is done in Europe. probably in everywhere in the world. Woman at the age 37 who has got no children, and is cute, is impossible hard to catch. They are educated, smart, good looking. They have too good points for me, and there is not enough amount of going to the gym in the world to change this ????

Anyhow, my options are:

1. Single moms are gonna blackmail me into relationship with them.

2. Stay alone. but as the time advance, probably part number 1 is gonna happen anyway.

3. get a girl who has genetic error that she likes older man like, who is under 23 and not yet got any children (but odds for this are like odds for winning a lottery)

-> Ofcourse i will to gym, be clean, get best conditions for my self with women.

29 minutes ago, KohKood said:

30 minutes ago, KohKood said:

I can't tell you about your current situation, but I can tell you a bit about my situation and my (only) experience with Thai woman:

 

I am not the average ThaiVisa-guy, meaning not old and ugly. Everytime I go somewhere, no matter Europe or Asia, woman look at me and tell me I am handsome. I hit the gym 3 times a week, I have a symmetric face and I am 25.

But you know what? I am young but DO NOT like the new way of living, that man and woman need to work.

What <deleted> is this, where you all got this feminism-desease?

A good man should take care of the wife and the kids (and yes sure, just his own. every man who adopt kids from further relationships is not a real man in my eyes), meaning make sure they have a roof over their head and enough food.

And a good woman should support his man in doing that, cleaning the house, take care of the children.

A woman who works is just the wet dream of Rockefeller, I can just recommend seeing this short videoclip of an interview with Aaron Russo to (hopefully) understand what I am talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fELc6jsD4IU

 

In every family where the woman works, I see the man losing control and actually you can see his testosterone-levels falling rapidly. Because the genders are just not made for a <deleted> up confused lifestyle like many people live nowadays, calling it "modern".

 

 

I personally never ever thought I would get a Thai girlfriend, because as most people in Europe I think to know: All Thai woman are <deleted>, good liars and heartless golddiggers.

Actually I think this is because they just hear the stories of old fat guys marrying girls that could be their daughter. Surely, these woman not really love their other halfs but it's more about the financial security. But these old and fat people, most likely naive and stupid because otherwise you don't get fat, believe they are loved for anything else for their money after being together with a Bar Girl. And in the end, oh who would've thought that before, they are sad because they realize the truth. It was just about money. And that's why everyone in the world think every Thai girl is a bitch, because we hear 90% stories like that.

But in January I met a Thai girl and was instantly in love, I never had something like that before. She is just perfect for me, beautiful, cute, innocent and no <deleted> feminist attitudes. I got sick of this in Europe, saying that with my age of 25.

But after the Corona-stock-crash I lost a very big piece of my money due to Margin Trading, I just knew my gf for 2 months. I told her.

She instantly said that I could move to her and her parents and they will all take care of me, I don't need any money to make her happy. Actually I still have enough money not to accept this offer, but for scientific reasons I accepted it. Really, I wanted to have my own experience about Thai girls and especially their families and look if she just say it like that or she mean it.

And you know what? You just cannot compare them to any Thai People that you meet in the tourist industry. They show you that it's REALLY the LandOfSmiles, not the LandOfFakeSmiles that you know from tourist areas or when you are an old fat gut who marries a young girl.

I never in my whole life was welcomed by someone I not know before like from the parents of my Thai gf. Her father even build a <deleted> extra room attachted to their house, the best looking in the whole house and with A/C. Just for me and my gf. Even if I told them I will just visit for short time.

Every day they give me food for free, even if I tell them I can pay because I still have more money than them, because they are not totally poor but surely not rich. But they insist on me being their guest.

Her father even got me some weed and we smoked together already.

 

So far about the possibility to find a decent gf in Thailand, it's definitely possible.
Her English at the beginning was pretty bad and she was scared to talk to any Farang, beside me she just have Thai friends. But as she is <deleted> smart she can now almost talk as good as me, I would say 80%. She tries really hard and actually she is committing more into this relationship than me.

And regarding being "<deleted> up", she is the cutest girl I ever met and truely innocent, compared to her I am actually <deleted> up and rude.

 

 

Anyways, I think your plan has one <deleted> problem:

You are 37 and just "normal-looking" and you want a max 23 year old girlfriend that looks good?

FORGET IT! Surely you will find a Thai gf, Ukrainian too, Russian too, even European in that age range being beautiful.

But why the heck you think they will be together with you?

The dream of every young girl is to have a cute, handsome and cool boyfriend that she can share her interests with. Why the <deleted>** any of these girls would want to have a man almost double their age? The only reason would be, that you are "financially interesting". And even that you are not, meaning you will most likely fail to find a "young and beautiful" gf/wife for you. Men in your age can still get that, but then you need to be REALLY handsome, interesting, good in bed and everything.

 

So I have a general advice for you:

Get in better shape. Eat healthy, do sports regulary so you will be over-average for your age. World is a competition and you should be a hot prize. And then:

Search for a woman in your age!! Search for a woman not because she is "young and beautiful", but because you have shared interests and think similiar about many things. And just stay together with her, if you really love her, not because you can show your friends how young and beautiful your catch is..

 

 

Ah yes, and the best girls and the best friends, you never meet them when you search for them. Destiny will bring you together and you will feel like that from the beginning.

 

 

Yes. But women in my age have children.

So, forget about it.

There is some hatred against me in this thread.

I never did mention that i will treat women bad. Im a nice guy.

So, keep your comments to yourself, and lets keep this thread in its theme.