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5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:
Yes it can be done.
You have to immigration to request the change. You would likely do it at CW but it not clear whether they do or at Muang Thong Thani if you are living in Bangkok. Where did you apply for your 60 day extension?
No form or fee is needed.
Thanks as always for the quick response and good information Ubonjoe. I got my 60 ext at CW in mid sept.
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Please can you clarify if are you saying that 60 day extensions granted to non-imm O ME holders from Sept 26th to Nov 25th 2020 are now changed to run from 1st Nov until 31st Dec 2020?
Do applicants have to go to CW to do this, or is it automatic, in lieu of the late continuation of the amnesty ? Is there a form that needs filling in and must we pay again ( presumably not, since they gave an extra 30 days to those who failed to extend )?
Thanks again for your help on this.
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6 hours ago, wordchild said:I am not sure this is the case.
I spoke to the Thai call center about this a couple of days ago and what they said (to me at least) was that ticket refunds were outside the bankruptcy process and there was no need for those waiting for refunds to formally join it.
They confirmed my refund was in the system but they were unable to process refunds until they had Bankruptcy Court permission and they hoped to get that in the next couple of months.
We shall see.
Thanks - this is how I see it at as well. I am regular contact with my travel agent.
They have offered me a Thai Airways 'voucher' valid for up to 2 years, but I don't really want that option. I paid for my journey in cash ( BKK - LHR - BKK ) about 6 months early back in January. The flight was then cancelled by them in in late May, a few weeks before departure. A full cash refund is what I'm after.
Going forward, I don't think people will be so quick to pay for 'good deals' on prices 6 months in advance. As a result, airlines' cash flow will look a lot different when this is all over ( and so will mine ). I believe companies with last minute deals will come out of this in a stronger position.
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Thai Airways still owe me a refund of my return flight to the UK which they cancelled in June.
I don't believe they can or should be flying anywhere until they clear their debts.
But my guess is that they may be doing so in order to bring stranded Thais home.
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I've been visiting Chatuchak market on Saturday mornings with the missus and as you'd expect, it is a lot less crowded than it used to be. It's fine. There's also an indoor mall there now ( the Mixt ) which is worth a look. To be honest we go over there to do an early morning circuit of the three adjoining parks. For us, that's the main attraction. But generally wander into the market/mall afterwards and enjoy it.
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Just some Sunday morning flippancy. I wasn't being deadly serious. What starts to irk me is how the Chinese are being welcomed with open arms. They being the orchestrators of the the virus in the first place. But we all know why, don't we?
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Note to Thaivisa moderators. This post is general news, but the drop down list for posting in the appropriate section is not available.
NEWS from Barrow: It seems Brits are denied the special tourist visa. Should we now lobby the UK Gov to deny entry to all Thai people?
//Edit by Maestro:
FACT CHECK
Richard Barrow did not write "It seems Brits are denied the special tourist visa. Should we now lobby the UK Gov to deny entry to all Thai people? ". Read the facts here: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1185750-uk-visitors-denied-tourist-visas/?do=findComment&comment=15882371
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All Non-O visas are issued outside Thailand unless converting from a different type of visa which is sometimes possible.
Non-O is for 90 days, single or multiple. Each entry can be extended inside the Kingdom. Typically used for foreigners working here, married to a Thai, having a Thai child, self employed or retired.
Non-OA is for 12 months and designed for retired people.
Non-OX is for 5 years.
Hope this helps.
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If it's true, then the Thai immigration dept. have really shot themselves in the foot with this latest U turn. From now on, you can be sure that many people on the visa amnesty will choose to just ignore their empty threats of overstay fines etc. and stay here anyway.
When you set a deadline ( as they did on 26th Sep, for either extensions or exit ) then you have to enforce it. Or you lose face and are in a much weaker position. For those who left ( prematurely it seems ) this situation must be even more frustrating.
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Refuse to pay the money until they confirm the start date of the extension is 27 Sep to 25 Nov. They'll call the supervisor. I presented them with colour copies of their own info-graphics. Then they comprehended it and did what was required...
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At CW last week, they also seemed a bit clueless on the start/end date of visa extensions. You just have to stand your ground. It's not the first time I've had to demand a supervisor to listen and understand. The front line staff do neither.
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Many thanks Ubonjoe. That's very helpful information. I can wait a little longer until visiting CW again.
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Good question JeffersLOS. I would also like to know this info' as I plan to go for the one year extension beyond Nov 2020.
I'm sure I read somewhere that in order to apply for this 1 year extension based on marriage, the applicant ( plus spouse ) must go to CW ( in our case ) at least 14 days before the end of the current 60 day extension.
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Can't say I know re MTT. Perhaps somebody else can help. I do know that I got my 60 day extension yesterday at CW. Good luck!
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Good on you Jack. But just sharing my thoughts...
1. be prepared for a wait - they're busy
2. be prepared for staff who seem new and cannot communicate well in English ( especially annoying given the the effort we have to make to go there/back ).
3. expect some degree of rudeness as standard ( they're wearing a uniform and you're not )
All in all, it wasn't so bad. Good idea to make sure your paperwork is in order! Check and double check. We had:
Completed TM7 application form and a passport sized photo glued to page 2
3 other completed paper forms they will give you when you arrive - bring a blue pen
My passport and black and white copies of photo page, visa page, entry stamp page and TM entry card ( I had to sign all copies )
Wife's ID card and a b&w copy of it plus a b&w copy of her house book ( she has to sign the copies )
Rent receipt - 6 months' worth but not really necessary
B&w copies of ID and house book of building owners ( owners have to sign them in blue ink ) - definitely necessary
B&w copy of rental contract ( owners have to sign ) - ditto, this is necessary
Original of marriage certificate and a b&w copy
Up to date KR2 from your local registry office, officially stamped ( it cost 20 baht )
1,900 baht in cash
A relaxed attitude ( you have to do your best.... )
Cheers !
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60 day extension to non O ME - permission to stay stamp said 17 May 2020
Arrived Chaeng Wattana 7am. over 100 people in the queue infront of us. Found the staff there typically obstructive and uneducated. Like," You! Walk one-by-one. Hat off, mask up." I asked the women if she thought perhaps we were animals. Or maybe she was an animal. I got a very angry look. "What you say?" x 3... yeah yeah yeah. My wife and I just walked off laughing. I have a non-immigrant O multi-entry just to avoid to coming here ( and we really enjoy our trips to Savannakhet and Singapore! ) Once inside, things haven't changed much since 2016. The customer-facing 'officers' are young and don't speak English very well at all. They also didn't understand the fact that all extensions start from 27th Sept. You'll need to stand your ground and get a more senior person to help if necessary. That said, it was quite well organised and comfortable. There's a girl who circulates to check your docs before you meet the dragons. But she's no expert. Oh yeah, and when you go in, they give you 3 more sheets of paper to fill out which just replicate the forms you already have. That's a bit annoying. They are quite poor photocopies mostly in Thai. Not very smart! You're given a numbered ticket and must find your seat with the matching number. Once again, they don't have much of a clue about organising a <deleted> up in brewery. It's a poor reflection of Thailand, to be honest. But I've been here long enough to expect nothing less than complete idiocy. To be honest, I have much better things to do than visit this this circus of uniformed <deleted>. But thanks for the 60 days. And more to the point, thanks to all the kind people on Thaivisa that assisted in getting the paperwork together.
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60 day extension of stay obtained this morning from Bangkok Chaeng Wattana. Things to bear in mind:
1. We got there at 07:00 and there were already 102 people infront of us. They let you in, give you a ticket number and you must then locate your seat in the main foyer that has your number stuck to it on a little square of paper and wait. In our case, seats 103 and 104. We went for coffee downstairs. When they open the actual immigration office at 08:30, adjacent to the numbered seating, you'll be called through in batches. You are then given another numbered ticket which is more specific to the service you want.
2. An hour later, the immigration officer was having difficulty communicating in English and with the facemasks and plastic screen, I couldn't very hear much at all. She had to get the supervisor/ signatory to discuss with me the start date and end date of the 60 day extension. I had brought colour copies of the recent infographics that make it clear the start date is 27 Sept and the end date is 25 Nov. Once we got that bit straight, I finally handed over the money. 1,900 baht
3. With regard to our living arrangements in Bangkok - they of course wanted signed copies of the ID and house book of the building's owner. They also wanted the actual rent contract, not just copies of the last 6 months invoices for the rent. We had everything with us anyway.
4. They definitely wanted an up to date Kor Lor 2, which we'd been to get yesterday at the local registry office. We then had to pose for a photo, holding the original marriage certificate and my wife's ID card pinned to the top of it. How nice.
We were in and out in 3 hours or thereabouts. It was busier than I expected.
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Many thanks, Ubon Joe. Fully understood and very much appreciated.
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If anybody knows what the current list of docs is, I would be very grateful if could let me know.
I'll be going to Chaeng Wattana in mid Sept to extend my Non O ME by 60 days, based on marriage. The wife will accompany me, as I understand this is a requirement. I think I'll just take the newspaper with me and try to say as little as possible.
My current permission to stay ended in mid May. I've been on amnesty since that. My planned Savannakhet run in April was cancelled and the cost of the flight refunded by Lao airways. My summer trip to the UK in June was also cancelled, this time by Thai airways. But in their case, I'm still waiting for my money back. I'll have all the tickets etc with me to show them I was unable to leave as planned.
Thanks to all those contributors on Thaivisa I have been following, most of whom have explained very clearly what our options are.
The visa amnesty is now over: Foreigners face fines and possible deportation for overstaying visas
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Well said.