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2 minutes ago, topt said:
Do you know people on the Committee - ideally the chairperson?
My understanding is the JP should serve at the behest of the owners via the committee - I know in theory......Any way to influence from that direction?
Thanks, Good advice for sure...someone else mentioned that to me this morning. As someone new to the complex i only know one other person who lives there who i met in passing but they are trying to make inroads this way for me if it is needed.
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1 minute ago, Surelynot said:
Sorry about that ....I'm on one.
I do live in a 'box' and the box above me got permission from juristic for two weeks drilling work.....we are now 12 weeks in...9am to 5pm 5 days a week......and that is only because a played merry hell about the out of hours and weekend working.
I am close to committing a serious crime...but can't access their floor unless I can get a fingerprint.
....and this condo is only 3 years old!!!!!
Sounds like you could make your own episode - sounds awful so no worries I do understand. Big difference between 2 weeks and 12 weeks worth of work - if it needed serious construction like that then yes im adverse to it unless totally necessary - especially if its only 3 years old. I hope it gets sorted quickly for you.
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1 hour ago, Surelynot said:
Anything that stops someone modifying a condo has my backing......why buy something that needs modifying and will disturb your neighbors for months on end?....ridiculous...
I think you have seen too many episodes of "Neighbors from hell"
Would love to see the box you live in with all of its original features.
Also FYI the work will take no more than 3 weeks and I already spoke with the people next door out of politeness and respect and they are fine with it.
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41 minutes ago, moontang said:
Any covered space (except for a carport) is going to be taxed as living space, and that would cause a wave of paperwork at both the JP office and the land office. Would also change the foreign quota (based on liveable area). We've got 571 units.. none with altered balconies.. and none with visible ac units... so they are strict about some items.
The rooftop area is allready counted as livable space on the condo title and deeds and as such my common fee amount that i pay every month goes towards that. The only way that they could justify this would be if i included stairs up to use the top as a further floor area. All i am doing is covering the existing floor area which im allready taxed on.
The inside area of my condo is 100 sq metres and the upstairs area is around 28 sq metres. I am paying common fee for 130 s metres each month.
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Thanks so much to the positive replies - it raises a few things that I had not thought about.
Thanks again.
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6 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:
Do you have a diagram showing the existing structure ?
Not as such but basically the only addition is the wooden roof that is constructed towards the back of the area on the plans. it is just like adding a wooden canopy on stilts as such. I would also be adding wooden walls to existing concrete walls that are slightly higher to give more privacy (other people have added such walls made of bamboo in other condos)
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5 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:
I would start be looking at the existing bylaws for the block, there is usually a by-law saying owners cannot modify the exterior of the block, enclose balconies, paint a different color, change windows etc.
Theoretically, you own the internal half of the walls, floor, ceiling etc and your neighbours (or common property) owns the other half. Usually the exterior of a condo block is technically common property, it is maintained, repaired by the condo block.
Your situation sounds similar to enclosing a balcony etc, its usually not allowed as per by-laws.
Thanks Peter - I will look into this as a possible reason.
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3 minutes ago, phetphet said:
If it is your property and stated so in the Chanote. Why do you even need their permission?
But another thing you could perhaps try is for either you or your girlfriend to try and talk to the guy and see what his concerns are.
We have tried and he stated he is too busy and does not have to justify his decision.
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1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:
I don't see how this is going to improve the worth of the other properties.
If building improvements improve the value of my property then this will improve the overall average property prices within the complex. Granted only slightly but if others see people being able to build which results in increasing property prices then they may also build and this has another small knock on effect on the overall average.
1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:Find this a bit strange too:
"I dont know much about this guy and dont want to judge but I was also told he is vehemently racist towards farang."
You don't want to judge but you declare him a racist on hear say.
Im trying to give people context into possible reasons why my application may have been rejected. Ultimately id like to think that the reasons for plans being rejected are around issues to do with legal compliance that i may be unaware of but I will not discount racism as a possibility because it is rife in Thailand.
On a side note - your reply is not helpful.
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Thanks for your reply.
The rooftop area I have IS NOT common property - i understand that it is not allowed if it was. The rooftop area is exclusively my property and states this within the deeds and titles of the condominium.
There is a staircase access from inside my condo up to my rooftop area. This is the ONLY access and was designed like this for the purchasers of the condo. On the picture below you can see a pointed roof which is the existing structure and access door / point to the rooftop area. I just wat to build a wooden roof to shelter from the rain as show on the plans below.
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Apologies in advance for the long post but I really need advice on an absurd scenario.
I recently bought a condominium with a rooftop - in fact the rooftop was the ONLY reason I bought this condominium.
When discussing the purchase with the sales agent, I told him of the ideas I had for making the rooftop into a nicer living space. He informed me that other residents in the building had previously done so, and as such I could also see some other properties within view who had built additional features such as rooftop shades, and higher side wall panels for better privacy.
I put some plans together and enquired with the Juristic office about the process I needed to follow to submit my plans and then get approval.
They gave me the necessary paperwork and told me the procedure. My plans were to build a wooden structure that basically would provide a further rooftop covering to keep the existing rooftop dry and make the outside space more usable during the wet season and also to add some wooden privacy walls similar to ones I have seen on other properties.
On getting the paperwork the staff in the juristic office had expressed that getting permission could take time and that that they would need proper plans (which was my intention anyway as want everything done right) - and while doing this i got the impression that it didnt matter what i asked they were going to say no anyway as my girlfriend who also lives with me had a small argument with them over a separate issue when we first moved in - then from then they saw her as being rude. From that moment I told my girlfriend to stay away from the juristic office and let me deal with things. I have been overly polite with them at every opportunity.
I employed an architect to design and make proper architectural drawings and also employed a structural engineer to make sure that the existing structure is solid enough to accommodate the additional work I wanted doing (the building is 20 years old and as solid as they come, and I already knew it would be fine but felt getting the structural engineer gives my plans more legitimacy)
After talking to a friend who knew some of the staff in the juristic office they had told me that they would approve the plans if I paid a bribe. Given that I am aware of such "procedures" in some countries I agreed to this (which would be paid once the plans are approved)
After submitting the plans they then still refused the permission to go ahead with the work.
After further enquiries from people I know it seems there is just one juristic officer who has repeatedly caused problems for residents in the condo over many years by refusing almost every request at every opportunity. I dont know much about this guy and dont want to judge but I was also told he is vehemently racist towards farang.
Upon speaking to juristic officers who oversee the other buildings in the complex - they said that if i lived in their building the plans would be approved as they clearly do not present any issues with health and safety, or questionable construction problems or issues for any neighbours etc. Their advice was to then go to the district office to try to get permission. However I was also told by my architect and structural engineer that this is something I can do but potentially could create a big drama for every person in the condo complex who has ever done any building work - as the district office would want to review why my plans were refused against the plans of others that were approved - and be a lengthy and costly process.
I know that Thailand can be a country with red tape but i now feel like this has become totally ridiculous. I cannot understand how this person does not see that by me spending money to improve my property it also is good for everyone else because average property prices will increase also.
I have thought to up the bribe offer but at this point im more inclined to try to get these people voted out at the upcoming AGM and propose a vote of no confidence in them as juristic officers - however I am also aware this would make me a target more for them to make my life as difficult as they can should i fail or if they have other connections.
My next step would be to consult a lawyer to take on the case - im determined to go ahead with my plans even if it takes me 10 years to do so.
Does anyone else have any other advice on how to approach this ?
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Thanks, yes thats what im worried about. Want someone who knows what they are doing.
Is there really no one at all who could be recommended by people on this forum ?
Talk about potential business opportunity for a uk/usa certified electrician.
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I have used Google of course, but it seems like a minefield...the last company i booked to come and look at it knew i was English when making the booking but then sent someone who could not speak a single word of English so i was unable to fully explain what was needed, even when trying to use Google translate.
The reason for asking for recommendations is I'm hoping someone can point me in the direction of a person or company who is reliable and competent. Google throws out a right mismatch. Good shout on the condo management though. I can ask them also.
Do you think the management of the condo will also be able to give advice on the structural weight for the hot tub ? The condo is an older building at about 18 years old and built like a brick <deleted> house, with thick solid concrete walls. They seemed to build them much sturdier back then, compared to todays standards.
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Im looking for an electrician who is certified and competent to sort some small issues with lighting in my condo, but also to install a number of outdoor sockets on my rooftop terrace including a one that is capable of powering a hot tub,
I live near Phra Kanong BTS station.
Thanks
Problems with Juristic office granting permission to make home improvements
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